To think that everyone is getting far too excited about this Green win?

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All this fuss about one Green win - I really don't think it's massively significant given the local demographic and the upcoming local elections will be the real test.

As if the Greens are going to get anywhere near power! Not going to happen.

YANBU

Jeremy Corbyn won a similar bi election when he was leader of the Labour party and look how that ended for him. One swallow does not make a summer, especially when we are talking about a constituency that doesn't represent the norm in this country.

Well the Conservatives have had 3 women PMs plus Kemi as leader.

Labour....oh yes they did have an acting female leader briefly?

Reform beat the Labour Party and the Conservatives.

I wonder happens to Goodwin now - will he stick around?

Farage, Tice, Goodwin, Yusuf are all said not to particularly like each other!

Just pointing out what's happened in the past.
I can do that in isolation.

I don't think anyone is expecting the Greens to win a GE. You are missing the point.

The reason left-leaning people are happy is because Reform failed yet again to win a national by-election. That is three out of four. Replicate that in a GE and they have no chance of being in power, not even if they formed a coalition with the Tories, given the latter's current abysmal performance.

Obviously there are three years to go until the next GE, so things could change. But there is hope that the far right will have collapsed politically by then.

I think he will. Its par for the course with many political parties being asked to run in a seat that its impossible to win rather than parachuted in. I think he will get an easier seat to try for in 2029. Hes very clear in his communication and backs everything up with facts and figures due to his academic career, which is useful in debates. Facts are often in short supply these days.

And here is a wonderful new, young MP winning for Green.

Quality. Not quantity.

Er...backbench MP. Compared to 3 PMs and a party leader?

Anyway your green party had a female leader? I thought we were talking about Labour? Or are you lumping them both together as one leaden mess of leftyness? 😉

Hes very clear in his communication and backs everything up with facts and figures due to his academic career

This has to be satire. Have you not seen what Hasan did to Goodwin and his "facts".

It's not the 'standing up for the rights of UK citizens' people don't like.

After all, that's what they've just voted for in Gorton and Denton.

It's the flag waving, relentless, divisiveness of Reform. Reform could have a decent discussion without encouraging the hanging of flags everywhere. But they don't.

Intersted to know what Reform have done for constituents in terms of standing up for their rights and making life better.

It’s bullshit, of course greens were going to win in an area like that.

Reform will take the local elections in May.

I find it absolutely baffling that peoplr would support a party that wants to legalise class a drugs, have open borders, leave nato and get rid of our nukes. Absolutely batshit crazy. Thankfully they have no chance of getting any real power.

No. Who is "Hassan"?

Goodwin is a highly respected academic and I trust his figures and the sources. You don't have to.

Probably somewhere in coastal East of England would go for him.

Highly respected - by whom?

No. They've voted for Palestine. We all know that.

Is "flag waving" in the UK controlled by Reform? Were flags waved before Reform was set up? Do you think non Reform voters wave flags?

Ask their constituents? We have a Labour MP at the moment here. Hasn't done anything as far as I can see re standing up for my rights or making my life better. In fact the potholes are worse.

Really? What’s wrong with female politicians on the right? Men have a range of political views in power, why can’t women?

Sounds very restrictive and sexist.

Well, by the people who repesct him of course. And he is a professor. That must count for something? Do you know better than a professor specialising in the field?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz68d284dvyo

Reform UK council's £75,000 flags project begins

If I was a Tory living in that particular constituency, I'd happily have lent my vote to another party simply to get Labour out. The previous MP was vile and had utter contempt for his constituents.

Well - Truss?

You're hearing what you want to hear.

You’re focusing on female politicians on the right and bizarrely silent on Labour’s lack of female leaders.

No help to women at all.

What's wrong with that? Nice to have a bit of patriotism. Labour used to be a patriotic party too.

Truss still had better ratings than Keir Starmer.

Everyone can take something good from the Green win, for the Green party that is obvious but I wouldn't be getting too confident that this result would be replicated in a General Election.
For Labour voters like me we expected a punishment but are overjoyed that Reform didn't win, that's the most important thing. It does annoy me that it is constantly peddled here that Starmer has zero support, I still support him and I know plenty of others who do. I suppose it's unlikely that he will take Labour into the next GE but maybe a leader who is generally more popular in the country can secure another Labour government. For now Labour are the government with still a huge majority so they need to make the most of the next 3 years and not let themselves be pushed into an early GE.
Reform can be happy that they get to be whining, Trump-like bad losers and get to peddle more of their racist nonsense whilst insisting that they never expected to win anyway (yeah, right).
Tories are irrelevant generally but would have never expected a result in this type of constituency, I was very surprised they got so many votes! But they can also be happy with the Labour loss.
So a result with positives for all. One thing I do like about the Greens is they want to bring more positivity into politics despite having some crazy policies and sadly not really being bothered about the environment like they used to be.