To think that everyone is getting far too excited about this Green win?

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All this fuss about one Green win - I really don't think it's massively significant given the local demographic and the upcoming local elections will be the real test.

As if the Greens are going to get anywhere near power! Not going to happen.

It is a vote against the status quo - people don't like the current government. It also shows how polarised politics is becoming.

Was Restore fielding a candidate?

Greens lost any support from me when they put Palestine at the forefront of their campaign. On top of that their policies are headline grabbing but weak and wouldn’t stand up if they actually went ahead. Zack is a refreshing poster boy, but I wouldn’t say he comes across as a robust politician - he just knows what to say to bring about votes! I think the reason Greens and Reform are doing so well, as most who support either side don’t have a clue how this country works and just want a magic wand and quick fixes. I think either getting into power would be a disaster - but thanks to the age of social media that’s the options we have!

I was always centre left, but now I don’t have a clue! As a woman, I have been really impressed with Kemi to be honest (don’t all come at me for this) I don’t agree with all her policies, but she is strong and stoic and seems to be getting even stronger. I think it’s doing her a favour that a lot of the leeches are leaving her government and going to Reform. If they strip away scandal, and focus on th economy an small business (instead of the constant anti immigrant rhetoric) I think the Tory party could slowly get more popular again!

Most are sick of rhetoric about ‘boat people’ being at the heart of all the UK’s problems, while ignoring the very real issues people face every day. Lack of affordable housing, NHS meltdown, rip off utilities, lack of jobs for their kids, food prices etc etc.

I think the excitement is more to do with Reform NOT winning. Which is fair enough

What is dangerous about them? I'm not in the UK, so I'm not up to speed.

i think its awesome - there is a demand for a "left"-leaning party and this has been demonstrated in this election. And additionally, there is an new MP who has a genuine passion to work hard for their local constituents.

Any step in the right direction is a good one.

Well, a particular section of them anyway.

I'm not excited. I'm scared and distressed.

They are encouraging sectarian politics for a start. We do not need that in this country.

@SumUpi’m sick of the Pro Palestine and the boat people rhetoric. We need to focus on the issues affecting this country - low wages, unemployment, high business rates and energy bills!

@binnibonniebooanti nato, anti spending any money on defence, constant pro Palestine rhetoric… lots of policies that are well meaning but written on the back of a fag packet and wouldn’t actually stand up if implemented! Good PR machine though and utilise social media for votes. They won by pulling out all the stops!

Do you mean because Muslims voted for them? Parties have long differed in terms of ethnic voting patterns, is this different?

Why would you consider voting Tory as a small business owner? I should be pleased that you would help split the right wing vote but they are dire for business out in the real world. The infrastructure we have to rely on is crumbling due to their past negligence and lack of investment. Everything is slow, more difficult than it needs to be, and expensive!

Party because the tories privatised key infrastructure and it is now often owned by foreign governments. Some situations are privately owned monopolies. How is that allowed? Internet is still less developed than parts of rural Africa in some parts of the UK and it is hampering economic growth, all due to their previous policies. Also they facilitated Brexit, which has been a disaster for UK businesses and GDP growth.

Purely from a the POV of being an employer and a heavy user of infrastructure, Labour or perhaps Lib Dem’s, are currently the best of the bunch. Yes Labour fall short and there are elements I really dislike, but Tories are a hard no for me.

Just went to Google out of curiosity: "Labour has traditionally relied heavily on Muslim voters. Shortly before the last election, a poll by Savanta found that nearly two-thirds of the UK’s nearly 4 million Muslims intended to vote Labour. "(Guardian)

@Alexandra2001I don’t think it is a surprise the Tories didn’t get a mention in this area, it has always been a left leaning constituency. The amount of hours and dedication into the Green’s campaign was impressive…. However they would have got votes on the back of many issues, mainly Palestine, which to be honest isn’t top of most people’s agenda when voting elsewhere in the country!

🙄 fed up of these goody threads. You don't like the Greens, we get it

It's significant for a few reasons. The greens themselves thought it was very unlikely they would win that seat. So it makes them wonder, how many other areas might vote green when they didn't think they would?

It's also significant because everyone's banging on about reform potentially winning the next GE, but here's a mini test as we don't have many actual elections at the moment, and they didn't win. Which gives hope to people who don't want reform to get in.

The answer is hope. It gives people hope. People are fed up of negativity. It happened YESTERDAY can we just let people be happy for one day

I agree.

They were canvassing on the basis of supporting Palestine (rather than the constituents) in order to harvest in the Muslim vote. The fact there is a "Muslim vote" has always been denied by the left but its fairly obvious there is one now.

have you listened to her speech, or any of her electoral material? she is exactly the kind of MP i feel constituents deserve (ALL constituents)

Its not a happy day for most people. Legal heroin, date rape drugs and open borders does not sound an enticing prospect.

And thats a sad indictment of how you feel about constituents. That they deserve an MP like that.

As if the Greens are going to get anywhere near power! Not going to happen.

Exactly what most of us thought (hoped) about Trump and the SNP in Scotland up until the 2010s.

they canvassed on their policies, and to specifically identify a "muslim vote" and not give the same weight to any other group is ridiculous. Every strategist working for every political party targets different groups. Is Reform's targeting of "white working class men" somehow less scarily sectarian??