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My friend has driven off and left her toddler with me after I refused to babysit…

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DojaPussy · 27/02/2026 14:15

I have been friends with “Claire” for 10 years, I have no children and she has 4.

Claire struggles with all the children and her DH left her when she was pregnant with the youngest “Barry” who is only 2.
He didn’t want more than 2 kids but a mixture of pressure and “contraceptive failures” led to number 3 where he tried to cope but issued an ultimatum about any more and booked a vasectomy as he said he couldn’t risk Claire getting pregnant on the contraceptive injection again.
Before he could go ahead with it baby Barry was on his way so he packed his bags and left, he sees the two eldest but not the youngest two now.
Claire has only ever half heartedly tried to deny it was on purpose and just said she was 40 and desperately wanted another and was nearly out of time.

Claire is constantly asking me for help with childcare and I’ve helped a bit over the years but I hate it because she’s very soft with the kids and they are a nightmare to look after and I didn’t choose not to have my own to help raise someone else’s!

I’ve been off work this week and have been having a lovely relaxing time with long lie - ins, going to the gym, the hairdresser, seeing friends, hiking and just enjoying free time.
I was supposed to go away for a short break but finances wouldn’t allow it so I’m trying to make up for that with other little treats.
I have a pedicure booked today at 3.45 at local spa hotel round the corner and bought a day pass to use the gym and pool facilities then was meeting a friend for dinner in the hotel restaurant.

Claire asked yesterday if I could look after Barry today because she “has an appointment” I suspect its meeting someone she’s been dating because she’s mentioned before that he works from home Friday mornings then finishes early and she wouldn’t elaborate on the appointment except to say “it’s important”.
I said no I wasn’t watching Barry and told her my plans, she said he could come along and I said absolutely not it wouldn’t be allowed!
She begged me to change plans but I said I’d lose money and I won’t get a chance or have the time to go for a long time - plus I just don’t want to.
Claire slammed the phone down and I thought she had got message.

She turned up at my house about half an hour ago to apologise and I let her in and we had a little chat and after 15 minutes she started begging me to babysit again, I said no again and she started crying hysterically saying she can’t cope anymore, she’s then walked off to her car and got in it and has driven off!

I think the whole performance was planned and I’m not wasting my plans being manipulated into childcare.

I have a few options and looking for advice on what people think I should do next…

I could take Barry to his dads at work but that seems unfair on him,

Take him to her sisters who works from home (another frequent reluctant target for babysitting) in the hope she is in,

take him to my neighbour who is a childminder and see if I can pay her to mind him (and get reimbursed off Claire) I know Claire would normally be against this as she usually doesn’t like leaving kids with people she doesn’t know but after today’s antics I’m not sure she’ll care.

I have so far text Claire and left messages saying I’m ringing the police if she doesn’t come back and if the other options fail how unreasonable would it be to do that? I thought I’d give her half an hour where I have typed out this post and I’ve text her parents and I’m waiting to hear back from them in the hope one of them might be free to collect him.

I’m guessing all the people above have been asked and refused so that makes it trickier.

I’m seething with anger and can’t believe she’s done this. It’s the sort of thing that’s in cheeky fucked legend but you don’t think anyone would do in real life!
It’s lucky we live in a small village where I know most of Claire’s friends and family because if I don’t track someone down Barry is getting dropped at the police station. I’ve wasted so much time on this already.

Changed my name not to be outing but tbh I don’t care if the situation is outing because if Claire didn’t want people to know what’s she’s done then she shouldn’t have done it.

OP posts:
PuzzledObserver · 27/02/2026 20:33

CarrierbagsAndPJs · 27/02/2026 20:27

Id have called a social worker. But dad has already abandoned two of the children so what would be the point in calling him?

Especially since by all accounts he has nothing whatsoever to do with Barry, so he would be a stranger to him.

So would the police or a social worker, but at least they haven’t previously made the decision to have nothing to do with Barry. They would presumably do their best to care for and comfort the child. Whereas the father’s actions could well be influenced by his feelings about having a child who he has (egregiously) decided to have nothing to do with plonked on him at work.

Does the father pay maintenance for all 4 children, I wonder?

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAtLast · 27/02/2026 20:36

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/02/2026 20:31

Even so you don't pretend those later children don't exist.

No - that shouldn't be permitted to happen and must be quite difficult to arrange - picking up two children and leaving two behind...
He is liable for maintenance for all children he has fathered.

DurinsBane · 27/02/2026 20:40

BreadstickBurglar · 27/02/2026 14:52

I completely agree. He willingly conceived two children and initially accepted number three, then continued to have unprotected sex with a woman who he didn’t trust. He’s an idiot and has no grounds whatever to abandon his children. Condoms exist, separate bedrooms exist. Just not shagging exists.

I agree he is a scumbag for abandoning 2 of his kids. But for your other point, it sounds like he thought she was on contraception, but they conveniently (for her) failed. Still doesn’t excuse not seeing 2 of them.

WalkAway7 · 27/02/2026 20:48

OP you sound like a good friend. You absolutely have the right to live your life and not have to drop your plans to mind ‘Barry’ when it is clearly not an emergency. You do not need to feel one bit guilty about ringing anyone (whoever you decided) to care for Barry as he is not your responsibility. While I agree that her DH needs to accept all his responsibilities, I think Claire totally manipulated the situation to suit herself at the time. Newborn babies are lovely, the real work is in raising them. But then she doesn’t like work, as she didn’t want to go back after two children.
How has the rest of your day been?

Emonade · 27/02/2026 20:48

DojaPussy · 27/02/2026 15:08

I do have sympathy because he didn’t want two more and made it very very clear that it wasn’t fair to have two more.

They lived in a small two bedroom house with the two eldest opposite sex children sharing a room with bunk beds and Claire didn’t want to go back to work full time after they started school so in an expensive area they would struggle to move.

Her exH works incredibly long hours and since having the children he wanted to reduce them and spend some family time but Claire just didn’t seem bothered about him anymore and she told me he said he felt like he was just there to produce money and sperm and laughed about it and said “that’s about accurate”.

She swore to him that she was happy with two and on the injection, he stayed after it “failed” and baby 3 arrived but was miserable and sleeping on the sofa because he wasn’t allowed in bed whilst she was sleeping with the kids.

With getting pregnant with Barry she said again she was on the injection but it wasn’t possible to get pregnant when breast feeding. Yes he should have checked but he trusted her and booked a vasectomy to be 100% and told her he wouldn’t be around for a 4th, I’d heard that too and believed her.
I don’t think it’s fair to call him a psychopath when he was being sensible not wanting to bring an unwanted child into the world they also had no room or money for!

I’m going to get on with the rest of my day now I can. I will update later but I sadly think the friendship is over.
I have sympathy for the kids but not that much for Claire right now.

You need to ring social services imagine the damage this is all having on those kids

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/02/2026 20:52

Ha I too suspect some interest or involvement in Claire's ex.

The "she should have kept her legs shut comment". WTF? 🤢

MrsChristmasHasResigned · 27/02/2026 21:01

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAtLast · 27/02/2026 19:41

Yes she is. It's called IPV - intimate partner violence.
It doesn't matter which one of the two is being deceitful with the other.
It's forcing someone to be a parent against their wishes.
No-one would say that a man sabotaging his partner's contraception or his own was being anything but abusive.
The same is true with a woman who tries to get pregnant knowing that her partner does not want a child or another child.

I don't think a lot of men realise the psychology of women who do this.

I thought it was women from an older generation but there are lots of young women who do it thinking they can be a SAHM forever or because they are afraid their partner will leave them and they think the new baby will "cement" the relationship. It won't. It has the opposite effect and it's not fair on the children.
Also, the women who do this are rarely in a position to support themselves and the children they choose to bring into the world.
They often have mental health issues or are delinquent as OP's friend appears to be - abandoning a 2 year-old so she can make baby number five with her new boyfriend.

Edited

Totally agree - there are a lot of shitty men out there, but women who deliberately get pregnant when they know their partner does not want to be a parent are also really shitty. My cousin did this, was completely unapologetic and said it was be she wanted to be a mother. She spoiled and indulged her child because she was also too selfish to put herself out by providing structure and discipline, and has spent the last 20 years complaining about how hard she has it. Its hard to have any sympathy for her at all.

CantBreathe90 · 27/02/2026 21:09

Poor Barry 😭😭 I would happily look after him - if only you could send him here we'd all have a great time.

CantBreathe90 · 27/02/2026 21:12

DurinsBane · 27/02/2026 20:40

I agree he is a scumbag for abandoning 2 of his kids. But for your other point, it sounds like he thought she was on contraception, but they conveniently (for her) failed. Still doesn’t excuse not seeing 2 of them.

Indeed. It's punishing the poor children, who exist whether their dad bothers to see them or not!

HappyHedgehog247 · 27/02/2026 21:16

I'm responding to your comments about sympathy for the father. If as a fertile man having sex with a women in her reproductive years, you don't want children then YOU take responsibility for contraception. It's that simple. Claire abandoned Barry for an afternoon, his father has abandoned him for good yet still sees his siblings. That is so messed up and that poor child.

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAtLast · 27/02/2026 21:18

HildegardP · 27/02/2026 20:31

Abstinence & condoms both exist. He merits no sympathy.

You don't accept his partner deceived him about contraception?

How would you feel if your partner sabotaged your contraception and you ended up pregnant? I wouldn't be happy but at least I could get an abortion.
The man does not have that option.

Catlady007007 · 27/02/2026 21:21

TheDaysAreGettingLongerAtLast · 27/02/2026 21:18

You don't accept his partner deceived him about contraception?

How would you feel if your partner sabotaged your contraception and you ended up pregnant? I wouldn't be happy but at least I could get an abortion.
The man does not have that option.

Once yes.
Twice no.

CypressGrove · 27/02/2026 21:31

I can't get over how long the waiting list for a vasectomy must be in this guy's area. He's had to wait for the length of her pregnancy with baby 3 and I'd assume at least a few months until baby 4's conception.

PorridgeEater · 27/02/2026 21:35

"Claire" is not your friend.
Ring Social Services - it's a safeguarding issue for all the children if she can act like this.

WhatYouWearing · 27/02/2026 21:35

Plot twist: the OP is in a relationship with Mr Vasectomy.

But poor Barry though 😭

StarCourt · 27/02/2026 21:38

DurinsBane · 27/02/2026 20:40

I agree he is a scumbag for abandoning 2 of his kids. But for your other point, it sounds like he thought she was on contraception, but they conveniently (for her) failed. Still doesn’t excuse not seeing 2 of them.

If he didn’t want anymore babies then he could have abstained from sex. Especially after baby number 3

Lilacblu · 27/02/2026 21:38

Well I don't trust this woman to behave responsibley after this... Totally not coping.. and 4 children is a lot to cope with day in day out.. if this mum isn't coping with it on her own then some help is essential.. she won't suddenly be on top of things... What's with this dad? Just switched of from his own flesh and blood? What's that going to be saying to these children if not now then later...! This mum is definitely going to be needing help... Professional help...? Social services is a big deal though...?

Mumtobabyhavoc · 27/02/2026 21:40

Claire is in serious need of medical intervention for MH.
The "father" needs his ass nailed to the wall for proper support.

The poor children.

If OP cannot find a family member to take the child then absolutely call police for assistance. It should terrify everyone reading that the mum abandoned her child in this way in order to meet up with a boyfriend. That's narcissistic beyond measure and what else is she doing to neglect her kids?

If, in fact, the story is true. 🤔

It's difficult to fathom how people can get so wrapped up in how the children came to be when the past cannot be changed and there's an actual concern to address. 🤦‍♀️

ETA noting the time of OP's first and last post and no updates. It's likely sorted now.

Worried198423 · 27/02/2026 21:41

Are you sure Barry's dad doesn't want anything to do with him.
Claire sounds just the type to not lt ho. See the other kids out of spite.
I'll tell you something, she wouldn't bey friend any longer.

BrownandBlueCarpet · 27/02/2026 21:42

I wouldn't do her any more favours. Her children are her responsibility, not yours.

Lilacblu · 27/02/2026 21:42

I'd say desperate not abusive.

ColdWeatherWarning · 27/02/2026 21:45

Lilacblu · 27/02/2026 21:42

I'd say desperate not abusive.

Desperate to go and shag her new boyfriend. Hardly an emergency. The child is just inconvenient, getting in her way.

Sunshine1500 · 27/02/2026 21:48

Coffeeandbooks88 · 27/02/2026 20:52

Ha I too suspect some interest or involvement in Claire's ex.

The "she should have kept her legs shut comment". WTF? 🤢

Yes it’s the childs dad’s girlfriend or I maybe mother or sister but I’d say girlfriend.

especially as she said she could drop the child at dad’s work but that wouldn’t be fair on him !
so she’d rather call police 😂

BrendaSmall · 27/02/2026 21:49

@DojaPussy
has she came back for the child!?
Did you contact SS?

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/02/2026 21:56

BrendaSmall · 27/02/2026 21:49

@DojaPussy
has she came back for the child!?
Did you contact SS?

She dropped off with claire mum aka granny

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