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While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

I thought she meant house plus pension? Even a few Labour supporters probably have that.

Its not my single issue, but i would never vote for a party that fully embraced gender ideology, any more than I would vote for a party that enshrined tenets of scientology or flat earthism into law and ejected any dissenters on those issues from the party.

And its not just women who take that stance, I'm male.

Abolishing private landlords sounds like an absolutely brilliant idea

Are you aware that two of these are not actually green party policies?

And 'abolish landlords' is a shorthand for a very detailed plan to make homes accessible and fair

https://croydon.greenparty.org.uk/2025/10/26/abolish-landlords/

Unless you're one of the thousands who can't afford to buy a home. Some people need to rent, for various reasons. In any case there will be lots more properties available on the open market come May so I guess this Labour government got something right.

That makes zero sense. And why Musk? He’s a total irrelevance to UK politics.

Yes some people need to rent, so the Greens want to increase social housing so they rent from the council, at a fair rate, rather than private landlords who rent homes for profit. Honestly do people really just loudly oppose greens without any actual knowledge of their policies? Silly question, yes they do it's all over this thread

Well the greens ain't coming for my pension that's for sure. I've just checked my pension pot (40k). To be fair I have two that I haven't transferred over to the site where all my pensions are consolidated (I paid into one work pension for five years and I would lose benefits if I transferred that over ).

As pp asked further up thread how are the Greens proposing to pay for the social housing that is needed? Houses can't be magicked out of thin air. Genuine question.

I used musk because he has the most money in the world so a good example of these mega billionaires. I actually googled after and he actually had nearly 900 billion!!! Wild!

I am not sure what is difficult to understand in what I am saying. Its circulation isn’t it. The money is already out of circulation when it’s locked up at the bottom of billionaires bank accounts. So if we want to redistribute it why not just do it. You don’t need to take it from them because they aren’t going to use it anyway. It makes sense to me. If you can tell me the bit you don’t understand then might be able to try again.

'We would introduce a land value tax to shift tax from tenants to landlords; increase taxes on empty properties to incentivise bringing them back into use; and introduce national insurance on rental income so landlords pay the same tax on their earnings as everyone else.'

https://croydon.greenparty.org.uk/2025/10/26/abolish-landlords/

I'm not the biggest fan of the Greens but I wouldn't just write them off as being awful. I actually joined them a few years ago but they don't have much presence in my area. Gillian McKay is my regional MSP but they have no MPs and no councillors in my particular area and never have had

I live in social housing and I have spoken about this on another thread. I only got a council flat because I took a flat in a very hard to let area - my brother bought a flat two years ago after a relationship split (long story but the split was acrimonious and he eventually walked away from his share of the house and started again)

He was lucky that he could afford to buy a flat because house prices here aren't that bad - not everyone is that lucky

We bring it back into circulation by taxing it. That's what taxes are.

The Snp in Scotland have managed to build a lot more council housing in Scotland than Labour did here when they ran Holyrood. Not enough but they've managed it

You could have clicked on the link upthread and found this but let me encourage your laziness.

We would start by ending the right-to-buy scam. We would also end the financial incentives and tax-breaks that were set up to encourage private landlords. We would end buy-to-let mortgages and bring back rent controls to stop landlords exploiting renters. We would introduce a land value tax to shift tax from tenants to landlords; increase taxes on empty properties to incentivise bringing them back into use; and introduce national insurance on rental income so landlords pay the same tax on their earnings as everyone else.

When it comes to housing supply, instead of just building more and more houses, the sensible thing is to start by making better use of the properties we already have. A Green Government would finance the purchase of empty properties; properties being sold by landlords; and those properties that aren’t being maintained properly by landlords. All of this would increase the supply of healthy, affordable homes without having to build so many more.

When we do build new housing, the Green Party wouldn’t follow the Labour and Conservative model of just letting private developers do whatever they want. We don’t want more of the luxury investment properties that make the biggest profits for developers. We should be building the types of properties we really need in the places where they are really needed. We would not only tighten up planning regulations, we would also create a Government run national housebuilding programme. Brick-By-Brick is a perfect example of what can go wrong when individual Councils try to build properties themselves, so we will bring in a properly regulated, innovative, and trustworthy Government building company that Councils can then apply to.

I live near Glasgow and it's 600 pounds a month plus for a room in a flat - it can be 1000 plus in the West end of Glasgow - Edinburgh is even worse. There definitely is a housing crisis

Thank you I also just copied and pasted from the link I had already posted. If it was a genuine question OP could've actually just looked herself but she doesn't really care clearly

I would agree totally with ending right to buy. Though isn't it popular with Muslims?

I missed the link. I do have a life outside of MN and haven't kept up with all the posts.
But thank you so much for providing the information.

I think it’s incredibly heartening they won, a very positive day 💚

If that’s true (I actually doubt it) a choice between losing their right to buy discounts and being kicked out of the country is a bit of a no brainer.

See my answer to @Blossomtoes above.

Well, it’s your thread, mate. If the rest of us can keep up maybe try a bit harder.

Give it a rest FFS. You've made your point, I think 🤔

But they have not said how they will finance that.

Open borders will mean a shitload of housing will be needed.