This country is doomed

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While the vote in Gorton and Denton may be described as a 'protest' vote the strength of both the Greens and Reform performance is something to worry all of us not just Labour.

I fear it didn't - but no worries. Won't engage with you again

No state or entity should have the right to exist at the expense of an entire indigenous population. You cannot have ethnic cleansing as part of your core belief and expect people not to call you out for it.

Murdering children and posting it on social media for the world to see is going to cause outrage why you think it wouldn’t is beyond me.

How does it work - does an imam on a Friday say right chaps on Thursday you are voting for x - or what - perhaps other communities are missing a trick here!

Tax the rich innit?! 😂

I fear the Greens more than I fear Farage.

Ah yes and nomas does definitely use that tactic.

Oh grow up and educate yourself. Farage is no fan.

This thread reminds me of the hysteria over Mamdani getting elected in New York. He's a communist, he's going to make New York into an Islamic state, he is antisemitic etc. It's tragic.

Polanski’s views are political and critical towards the Israeli government’s policies and toward Zionism as a political ideology — not anti-Semitic in terms of hatred or prejudice against Jewish people. There’s a huge difference to what you are saying and what he actually has said but is easily twisted by people who don’t really understand what has been said.

It absolutely did. I’m sarcastically challenging the person on the claim that they’re antisemitic because no one should be supporting any party that is antisemitic. I’m not actually taking what they’ve said to be truthful.

Someone pointed out on another thread somewhere that Zack Polanski looks like the Missing Link.

Funny that you only had a dig at me rather than the other person who said the same as I did. Anyway - unwatching. CBA

The point is we historically have not had people voting along sectarian lines in this country.

In my view it is not a positive step for communities to start supporting a particular party purely because of their religion. It is not good for community tensions or the good of the country as a whole.

I wouldn’t want to see the Tories for example saying “vote for us to protect Christian values” either.

What are you wittering on about now?

It’s typically announced in the call to prayer on which way to vote. You’ve got to listen out for it.

Well it doesn't matter because they will never get in. And even if they did, they're not fit to be in charge of a jacket potato, never mind the country.

I understand the difference perfectly well. It is possible to criticise the Israeli government (which I agree with) without being anti-Semitic. However, too many on the far left use the term anti-Zionist as an excuse to be anti-Semitic.

It is anti-Semitic in my view to support the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Israel.

Personally, I won’t be putting any money on the new Green MP retaining her seat at the next GE.

Starmer’s fear of Andy Burnham has well and truly come back to bite him on the
bum.

It’s not sectarian though is it? Since when have the greens been a Muslim party?

Yes because I have a personal vendetta against scottishgirl69. Adios.

What's the nonsense about the issue of Gaza winning the vote?

I've not see that anywhere apart from this very right leaning website.

My concern is that a more popular Green party just splits the left leaning vote and allows the racist bigots of Reform to get elected in constituencies where they had no chance.

This country is doomed? I'll tell you why it's doomed.

1. The highly racist , completely ignorant and factually incorrect thread we had about immigration on here this morning demonstrating how gullible and stupid the British voting public are.
2. A FB post from the Daily Mirror about a young Muslim man being stabbed to death got nearly 400 laughing emojis. That's Farage's politics of hate for you.

We will get a Reform Government, and this country will turn into a cess pit of right wing hate. We will be boycotted and ostracised.

They have issued leaflets in this campaign on how voting green aligns with Islam and in languages used by Muslim communities.

They knew exactly what they were doing.

Being against the political ideology of Zionism is not antisemitic in itself, even if many jews agree with it.

People who don't agree with Zionism don't support ethnic cleansing of jews from Israel (the state, not the biblical area), conversely they disagree with ethnic cleansing of non-jews from surrounding areas.

Both the greens and reform are opposite sides of the same extreme coin.

Their support for things like open borders, legalised heroin, unlimited government debt and political violence when they agree with the cause are just as radical as Reform on the right.

I've voted green before, only in locals but would have voted for them in a GE if it had been less of a wasted vote.

But this incarnation really worries me.
I strongly dislike their ideas on drugs & on womens rights, I think they are economically very poor, and I dont love that they focussed on Gaza in a UK election.
Immigration is not my biggest voting issue but I worry they would be pretty bad here too.

The overriding sense, is that they feel like they are "good guys" by definition. They can only adopt ideas and policies that have a feel good factor, e.g. legalise everything, let everyone do what they want, get the rich to pay for everything. I think governing is about making hard choices and I feel these Greens will be unable to do this.

But you are saying voting in support gaza = islamic sectarianism? That doesn't add up? I support Gaza, I am not muslim.