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To start WW3 with my SIL

734 replies

Allthewineandallrhedrinks · 27/02/2026 06:30

Long story but I will keep it short.

Me and my husband had decided to stop speaking or engaging with SIL. Mainly because of an incident where my husband said something in a jokey way to my neice and she literally sulked off to another room in my parents house like it was the biggest deal making me feel uncomfortable and she's not even blood related.
I messaged my brother about Easter as we always do stuff all together and I said we need to do it separate this year. He asked why I said because your wife is a toddler sulking off and we don't want to see her again. Hears nothing more from my brother.

So then at my kids school it all gets a bit weird my mum friendship circle start ignoring me and I keep asking whats wrong and they say nothing all fine. But then they are organising meet ups without me which never happens. I normally am one that arranges them. I keep asking what's wrong. Finally find out. My SIL has told one of the mums that she knows through work about my husbands past. He did some bad stuff and was in prison but he did his time and is an amazing person.
Now because of my bitch SIL I am now isolated from my friendship group.

I was willing to not make a big deal and just not speak or see her again but she has made this personal and I cannot let this go.

OP posts:
ImmortalSnowman · 27/02/2026 09:48

lifeisgoodrightnow · 27/02/2026 09:36

@Allthewineandallrhedrinksnice user name. Doesn’t vape ✅doesn’t drink ✅does marathons ✅ does charity ✅ lawyer ✅what a cow ! I’d start www3 too 🙄

If I was the SIL I'd be glad that OP and her offensive husband weren't talking to me.

@Allthewineandallrhedrinks Your husband's crime was reported, it's not private information at all. It's public record.

Ohnobackagain · 27/02/2026 09:48

@modernfairies I didn’t say it was a SIL problem. They’re both at fault here but in my opinion it was really irresponsible to share that info.

ForEdgyHare · 27/02/2026 09:49

Lets be honest, whatever your dh has done for the prison sentence cant have been not serious can it. For the mums to not speak to you. Ive met parents at the school gates who have done time for robbery etc. Ive still been civil and they were honest. If I heard that little billys dad had been inside for hurting a child or something child related, and found out from a third party then id stop being civil too.

Sils a goodie who does charity work and doesn’t vape 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I work for a charity and I vape. Am I only half a goodie?
You sound very insecure and you did this to yourself. If Sil had made the joke about your child I am sure you would also be kicking off

teapotclarity · 27/02/2026 09:50

Marathon-running non-vaping lawyer or a convict who upsets family members at parties…which in law would YOU choose?!

Exactly - noone in their right minds would pick a convict who is constantly drinking and leaves foul clouds of vape fumes wherever they go and offends children over someone who actually sounds decent and kind 🤣

The13thFairy · 27/02/2026 09:50

Odditea · 27/02/2026 06:32

I want to hear your SIL’s side of the story

So do I. Also, please tell us what your husband said to your niece.

Parsleyforme · 27/02/2026 09:50

You both sound like you like drama. Your husband could’ve apologised but didn’t. You clearly don’t like your SIL anyway as you have put running marathons as a negative. It was probably not necessary for your SIL to talk about your husband’s past, but if the crime was bad enough for your friends to shun you then the blame lies with your DH really for doing it

HoppingPavlova · 27/02/2026 09:50

Frankly, if the other mums have read about your DH’s crime and now don’t want to be involved with your family on that basis, that’s a really valid path for them. It’s not your SIL fault that your DH committed a crime whereby people then don’t want to associate with him or his associates.

Look at it from their viewpoint. How thrilled would you be to have your kids go to someone’s house for a play date where their dad would be present, and you didn’t want the kids near him because if a crime he had committed and gone to jail for? That’s the result when you marry and have kids with someone in this situation, you took that risk and ur’s now blowing up on you but blame your DH, not your SIL. If he didn’t do anything there would be nothing for he to blab about, and other parents are within their rights to choose who they want themselves and their kids associating with.

ScarlettSarah · 27/02/2026 09:50

I feel like most people wouldn't stop associating with the wife of an ex-convict for some petty crime like shoplifting, 15 years ago.

You're minimising, OP. Saying the crime sounds worse written down than it really is.

ForEdgyHare · 27/02/2026 09:51

ImmortalSnowman · 27/02/2026 09:48

If I was the SIL I'd be glad that OP and her offensive husband weren't talking to me.

@Allthewineandallrhedrinks Your husband's crime was reported, it's not private information at all. It's public record.

One of the mums might have googled the DH tbf. Or looking for him on social media and a post talking about the conviction might have come up?

ImmortalSnowman · 27/02/2026 09:51

IwishIcouldconfess · 27/02/2026 09:43

Couldn't think of anything worse then being her. She is one of the goodies does marathons, doesnt drink doesnt vape does charity. And my parents are always like oh isnt she great shes done this.

She sounds a really decent person, I would love to get to know her and be friends with her.

You should raise your standards to hers @Allthewineandallrhedrinks She sounds a far better person than you do.

The school mums seem to have raised theirs at least. Doubt @Allthewineandallrhedrinks has the self awareness to.

IkeaMeatballGravy · 27/02/2026 09:51

Tying yourself up in knots trying to justify your husband's behaviour sounds exhausting. No wonder you are jealous of other people's lifestyles. You might have the energy to run a marathon if you face up to what your H has done and stop ruining your life trying to cover for him.

HoppingPavlova · 27/02/2026 09:52

You clearly don’t like your SIL anyway as you have put running marathons as a negative

The not drinking, not vaping and doing charity are also being thrown out in a negative manner, which is ….. odd.

Jellyslothbridge · 27/02/2026 09:53

You can't change what has happened but you can change what you do next.

phoenixrosehere · 27/02/2026 09:54

saraclara · 27/02/2026 09:21

Well I doubt you're still reading, but I don't know how you don't recognise that this is all down to you.

Your SIL took herself to another room to avoid exploding in response to what was said. That was probably the best option open to her at that point, rather than have a row at your parents'. And then she put it away and didn't bring it up again.

But then you acted like a complete child

I messaged my brother about Easter as we always do stuff all together and I said we need to do it separate this year. He asked why I said because your wife is a toddler sulking off and we don't want to see her again

Really? Are you eight years old? You lit a firework off and caused a family rift entirely unnecessarily. Pathetic.

Same

It’s about their feelings, how they have been wronged when their DH said something, someone didn’t react the way she thought they should and it made HER uncomfortable, no thought to others outside of her. Then escalated by texting about Easter to not celebrate with her brother’s family and thinking insulting her brother’s wife is acceptable when he asked why.

On top of that, shocked that many don’t agree with her and the posts she has added doesn’t sound like it was as trivial as she wants to make it out as.

I can’t remember what DH said but it wasn’t that bad. Surely to make that judgement, one knows some of what was said even if they don’t remember word for word.

OP knows it was bad otherwise she would have said what it was.

Add in her recent, it practically comes down to her heavy dislike of her SIL and SIL walking away just set OP off.

OP expected sympathy and many to agree with her and when many haven’t she wants to make it out to be a class issue and what not.

When did it be a class issue or a person is fake to not drink, not smoke, not vape, and checks notepad do charity?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 27/02/2026 09:57

I’m not saying your husband can’t change but sadly most ex criminals especially if it’s involving a child may have a hard time if this comes out whether by parents googling, SIL outing etc. I’m curious as to what your DH said to your niece too. Wouldn’t you be upset if the shoe/boot was on the other foot?

godmum56 · 27/02/2026 09:58

IntelCoreStrength · 27/02/2026 06:34

What was the “jokey comment” your husband said to your niece?

my absolute first thought.

Bundleflower · 27/02/2026 09:58

Allthewineandallrhedrinks · 27/02/2026 09:30

Im glad some people see what she did was vile and spiteful. Back from school run and hust want to cry. I had such a good network of friends.
My sil kids dont even go to this school I didnt even know she knew one of the mums.
I feel that all of you are just like mini SILs in here so thats why you dont see it my way.
She gets a free pass to be horrible saying something that has a big impact on my daily life.
Its hard to explain because I will probably get called jealous which I am definitely not. Couldn't think of anything worse then being her. She is one of the goodies does marathons, doesnt drink doesnt vape does charity. And my parents are always like oh isnt she great shes done this. She is fake as they cone. And this has shown she isnt the nice person she pretends to be.
I had the right to not want to see her. She always twists thjngs as shes good at words because of her job as lawyer. This is a class judgement thing here. Me and my husband have good jobs too doing well doesnt matter that we didn't go to university.

Some of the things people have said about my husband is vile. It was over 15 years ago it was a typo in other post. It wasnt violent or sexual just people being massively OTT and extreme.
Im not posting anymore because this site is not supportive how other mums couldnt understand how this would effect me and my kids someone doing this.

I can’t quite explain it OP but I read this post in the style of this lady - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxNcnbKu3nG/?igsh=dDBoOHd6M3FmbDR2

Is your SIL like Dr Emma?

Teigan Reamsbottom on Instagram: "This heated exchange between Lizzie and Emma on “Wife Swap UK” in 2003 is one of the most bonkers reality television moments ever captured on film 😂 “DOCTOR EMMA IN THE HOUSE!” 🚬 #wifeswapuk #wifeswap #realitytv #...

551 likes, 61 comments - teiganish on September 15, 2023: "This heated exchange between Lizzie and Emma on “Wife Swap UK” in 2003 is one of the most bonkers reality television moments ever captured on film 😂 “DOCTOR EMMA IN THE HOUSE!” 🚬 #wifeswap...

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxNcnbKu3nG?igsh=dDBoOHd6M3FmbDR2

falalalaa · 27/02/2026 09:59

SIL and brother must be relieved.

Moveoverdarlin · 27/02/2026 10:02

The SIL must be relieved you’re finally cutting contact. Not a good look for a lawyer to have married in to a family of ex-cons.

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 27/02/2026 10:02

Bundleflower · 27/02/2026 09:58

I can’t quite explain it OP but I read this post in the style of this lady - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxNcnbKu3nG/?igsh=dDBoOHd6M3FmbDR2

Is your SIL like Dr Emma?

This...

https://www.thesun.ie/living/1138646/remember-wife-swaps-foul-mouthed-lizzy-bardsley-heres-what-the-mum-of-eight-looks-like-now/

SpaceRaccoon · 27/02/2026 10:03

OP you sound... lacking in self-awarenss, if I'm to be kind about it.

Your SIL sounds like a nice, normal person. I suspect you're her nightmare inlaw.

Toddlerteaplease · 27/02/2026 10:03

You sound awful! Like a toddler yourself.

Notsosweetcaroline · 27/02/2026 10:04

Allthewineandallrhedrinks · 27/02/2026 09:30

Im glad some people see what she did was vile and spiteful. Back from school run and hust want to cry. I had such a good network of friends.
My sil kids dont even go to this school I didnt even know she knew one of the mums.
I feel that all of you are just like mini SILs in here so thats why you dont see it my way.
She gets a free pass to be horrible saying something that has a big impact on my daily life.
Its hard to explain because I will probably get called jealous which I am definitely not. Couldn't think of anything worse then being her. She is one of the goodies does marathons, doesnt drink doesnt vape does charity. And my parents are always like oh isnt she great shes done this. She is fake as they cone. And this has shown she isnt the nice person she pretends to be.
I had the right to not want to see her. She always twists thjngs as shes good at words because of her job as lawyer. This is a class judgement thing here. Me and my husband have good jobs too doing well doesnt matter that we didn't go to university.

Some of the things people have said about my husband is vile. It was over 15 years ago it was a typo in other post. It wasnt violent or sexual just people being massively OTT and extreme.
Im not posting anymore because this site is not supportive how other mums couldnt understand how this would effect me and my kids someone doing this.

Oh god, good old fashioned jealousy. That’s what this is. You’re unbelievably jealous of her, and I doubt your husband and you have good jobs to be frank.

so you’re jealous of her job, her education, her fitness, her charity work, her lifestyle, likely her income and that’s why you tried to bully her.

you are the issue, grow up, get that chip off your shoulder.

AnnieLummox · 27/02/2026 10:05

I feel that all of you are just like mini SILs in here so thats why you dont see it my way.

This is where you jumped the shark.

On the off-chance any of this is real - The Jeremy Kyle Show was cancelled years ago. Stop turning your life into an audition for it. Stop making bizarre threats about WW3 when you don’t actually have any ammunition. Stop cancelling arrangements for Easter that were never made in the first place.

You can blame your SIL for telling people your husband was in prison. Or you can look again at your attitude as to why he was there, and see if the people cutting you off have a point.

BetterWithPockets · 27/02/2026 10:05

Allthewineandallrhedrinks · 27/02/2026 09:32

How do I get this thread removed?

If you message MN (not sure how to do that) they’ll delete it for you.

I don’t think your SIL should have told your school mum friends, FWIW, unless your husband’s crime meant their children were potentially unsafe around him.