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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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HangryBrickShark · 23/02/2026 20:12

FFS 🙄

GCAcademic · 23/02/2026 20:12

There's already a long thread about this:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5494869-tourettesbaftas-offensive-language

JasmineMac · 23/02/2026 20:14

🙄

MissIonX · 23/02/2026 20:14

BAFTA should apologise for not censoring.

John should not; it's a DISABILITY. It is quite literally a known scientific fact that unconscious bias doesn't come into it; he literally has no control over the words that come out of his mouth.

I am honestly shocked at the number of people who are choosing to ignore the key part that it's INVOLUNTARY!

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 20:14

You, very clearly, do not understand tourettes.

Contrarymary30 · 23/02/2026 20:15

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

Don't be ridiculous.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 20:17

I don’t argue with your feelings or concern. That’s not my issue. I disagree with this bit -“That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.”

What I see there is that racism and the use of that word is more taboo than anything else in that room. Worse than misogyny, worse than homophobia. It’s not unconscious bias, it’s exactly the reflection of your own beliefs.

Pieceofpurplesky · 23/02/2026 20:18

The comment on twitter/x that you need to think about @notaurewhatusernameis that complaining of someone with Tourette's swearing is like calling a wheelchair user lazy. You need to watch the film.

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 20:18

We need someone to start a thread educating people about Tourette's.

What are you hoping to achieve by starting a thread that demonises them?

YABVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVU

Ponoka7 · 23/02/2026 20:19

It's different because he'd be apologising for his disability, not an action (like stepping on someone's foot). If the N word wasn't across popular music, I'd get what some are saying, but it is part of popular culture and not just a racial slur. He shouted N bitch, the second part shows it wasn't personally aimed at them.

ZookeeperSE · 23/02/2026 20:20

Firstly, no, disabled people shouldn't be expected apologise for their disability, that is outwith their control.
And, secondly, the BBC have apologised.
Next.....

BlueBlueBerries · 23/02/2026 20:22

Have you used AI to write this?

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:22

Ok, as I pointed out do you not apologise for hurting people even if it wasn’t your Intent? Why is this different?

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Ponoka7 · 23/02/2026 20:22

@PrizedPickledPopcorn what people with tourette's shout out has nothing to do with personal beliefs.

Pollqueen · 23/02/2026 20:22

I agree OP but you're going to get flamed and why didn't the BBC edit it out?

Ponoka7 · 23/02/2026 20:24

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:22

Ok, as I pointed out do you not apologise for hurting people even if it wasn’t your Intent? Why is this different?

Because he would be apologising for his disability. He should, as we all should, use it once again to educate people on his condition. Him explaining that no offence was meant and explaining it's involuntary, is enough.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:25

@Pollqueenare you by any chance a POC? I bet other posters aren’t, something tells me this needs a unique lived experience to understand. In the nicest way possible I’m not trying to offend.

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:27

@Ponoka7ues but in these circumstances he should apologise. Sorry but it I hurt someone so publicly, he should apologise. He isn’t at the BAFTAs every day of his life so this was a unique experience calling for unique actions

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:28

GCAcademic · 23/02/2026 20:12

Yes and I’m free to start another one

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XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 20:28

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:27

@Ponoka7ues but in these circumstances he should apologise. Sorry but it I hurt someone so publicly, he should apologise. He isn’t at the BAFTAs every day of his life so this was a unique experience calling for unique actions

He has a disability. He can not help the tics.

Apologies are meaningless if you do not change. He can not change.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:30

@XenoBitchtotal rubbish. No point saying sorry if you can’t change. Are you serious?

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XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 20:32

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:30

@XenoBitchtotal rubbish. No point saying sorry if you can’t change. Are you serious?

This man has a disability that means all the apolgies in the world will mean nothing, as he will do it again... and he can't help that because he is disabled.

ScarlettSarah · 23/02/2026 20:32

Bafta have apologised.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:36

@XenoBitchhis apology DOES mean something to millions of black people all around the world.

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Vaxtable · 23/02/2026 20:38

YABVU and obviously don’t understand disability and that fact that someone with Tourette’s can’t control what they say and when they say it.

it’s a disability and it’s very very sad that you can’t see that

Apologies from the appropriate people have now been given. No John should not apologise for his disability.