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To think John Davidson and BAFTA owe an apology

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notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:10

I have sympathy for anyone with Tourette’s. I genuinely do. It’s a difficult condition and I’m not for one second suggesting John Davidson is a bad person or that he chose to say what he said. But sympathy for a condition doesn’t mean the impact on others gets ignored.

Intent matters but so does impact. If I accidentally stand on someone’s foot I still say sorry, even though I didn’t mean to do it. “I didn’t mean it” and “I acknowledge I hurt you” are not mutually exclusive. I wouldn’t get annoyed at the suggestion of apologising simply because I didn’t mean it, so why is this different? Especially as it was a public stage in front of millions. I don’t expect John to apologise every day in normal interactions, but at such a public forum - he should. Michael B Jordan looked visibly devastated. It was so sad.

When he saw two Black men and the n-word came out — not H**ky at the white hosts for example, not some other neutral word, the n-word directed at Black people in the room — that caused real harm to real people. Tourette’s tics are shaped by what the brain reaches for as most “forbidden” in a given moment, and what it reached for when he saw two Black men was a racial slur aimed at them. That raises really uncomfortable questions about unconscious bias that most people would rather sidestep entirely.

It doesn’t make him a conscious racist. But it does make it a conversation worth having, because our unconscious associations don’t come from nowhere — they’re shaped by everything we’ve absorbed over a lifetime. That connotation being the first place his brain went is something that deserves acknowledgement, not just a pass because of the diagnosis. And as a POC, I have to be honest — this is heartbreaking. Not just the incident itself but what it represents.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to explain to white friends and colleagues that certain spaces feel uncomfortable, that you notice the stares, that you carry this constant low level awareness of how you might be being perceived. And so often the response is “you’re imagining it” or “you’re being too sensitive.” You get gaslit into doubting your own lived experience. Well — moments like this are exactly why it isn’t in our heads. This is the reality POC navigate every single day. Always on alert. Always doing that mental calculation of whether someone is judging you for the colour of your skin. That emotional labour is exhausting and largely invisible to people who’ve never had to carry it.

John thanking the audience for their “understanding” puts the burden entirely on those who were hurt to just get over it. That’s not the same as acknowledging the pain caused. AIBU to think a bit more than “thanks for understanding” was needed here — from both of them?

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Vaxtable · 23/02/2026 20:40

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:36

@XenoBitchhis apology DOES mean something to millions of black people all around the world.

why should someone with a disability apologise for his disability?

LLJETO · 23/02/2026 20:43

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 20:18

We need someone to start a thread educating people about Tourette's.

What are you hoping to achieve by starting a thread that demonises them?

YABVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVU

If only there was a film and/or documentaries that people could watch!😉

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 23/02/2026 20:45

Ponoka7 · 23/02/2026 20:22

@PrizedPickledPopcorn what people with tourette's shout out has nothing to do with personal beliefs.

I’m agreeing with you, I think. It’s not what he thinks so much as the worst thing, the most opposite thing to what he thinks.

giddyaunt19 · 23/02/2026 20:46

I’m white and I think it was a bit much to have said nothing afterwards, disability or not. You’re right in what you said about intent and impact.

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 20:46

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 20:18

We need someone to start a thread educating people about Tourette's.

What are you hoping to achieve by starting a thread that demonises them?

YABVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVU

I just did thanks to your post, I'm sure it will go very well....

PollyBell · 23/02/2026 20:46

So if he cant help it would he randomly call a white person or a duck or a chair as in a random thing the same word?

DestinedToBeOutlived · 23/02/2026 20:47

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:25

@Pollqueenare you by any chance a POC? I bet other posters aren’t, something tells me this needs a unique lived experience to understand. In the nicest way possible I’m not trying to offend.

I am, as is my dd with tourettes.

So I have lived experience of both sides of this.

outerspacepotato · 23/02/2026 20:52

OP isn't demonizing him at all. She's explaining the impact his word had from the POV of a person of colour.

He can exist in a minority space being disabled but still harm others with his words. Lack of intent does not diminish the visceral impact of him yelling the n word at 2 Black men.

And yes, I think he should apologize to Delroy and Michael B.

Imagine for a minute being at the peak of your career and having a racial slur yelled at you at an awards show.

HelenaWaiting · 23/02/2026 20:52

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:25

@Pollqueenare you by any chance a POC? I bet other posters aren’t, something tells me this needs a unique lived experience to understand. In the nicest way possible I’m not trying to offend.

I am mixed race and disabled, so hopefully you will concede that I have a perspective on this. A very angry women tore me a new one shopping at Christmas, because she was in a hurry and my wheelchair was in her way. Yes, my wheelchair was in her way and that is unfortunate but I did not design the store. I'm not apologising for being disabled, and I don't accept that anyone should expect me to. That's what the incident at the BAFTAs was - unfortunate - it wasn't targeted, it wasn't an attack, it wasn't deliberate. Would I be upset if someone called me the N word? Absolutely, but what if it wasn't aimed at me? What if it was a child who didn't understand what they were saying? Or what, as in this case, it was wholly involuntary? Leave the man alone; he has enough to deal with.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:55

outerspacepotato · 23/02/2026 20:52

OP isn't demonizing him at all. She's explaining the impact his word had from the POV of a person of colour.

He can exist in a minority space being disabled but still harm others with his words. Lack of intent does not diminish the visceral impact of him yelling the n word at 2 Black men.

And yes, I think he should apologize to Delroy and Michael B.

Imagine for a minute being at the peak of your career and having a racial slur yelled at you at an awards show.

Exactly this. They flew all the way from US to attend such a major event at the peak of their careers and end up being victims. They were humiliated. Tourette’s or not. And that’s why they should receive an apology.

i could see Michael B eyes almost died inside. As a POC that scenario would be VERY triggering. And only a POC would really get it

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NoSoupForU · 23/02/2026 20:55

Jesus fucking christ. Not this again.

No he doesn't owe an apology. No disabled person needs to apologise for their disability.

People need to actually have some compassion, understanding and tolerance. Maybe focus some energy on learning the difference between a wilful behaviour and a tic which is not within the individual's control.

I mean, if only there were a BAFTA winning film about this very thing, eh?

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:56

giddyaunt19 · 23/02/2026 20:46

I’m white and I think it was a bit much to have said nothing afterwards, disability or not. You’re right in what you said about intent and impact.

Thank you. It is fortunate then to see that some non POC can understand this.

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JasmineMac · 23/02/2026 20:56

I genuinely can't believe what I'm seeing today. The targetting of this man, by SO many. Over a symptom that is entirely beyond his control, over a severe disability. This en masse pile on is WAY worse than the archaic lack of understanding he endured in the 1980's.

It's incredibly upsetting, and very disturbing. Today is such a shameful day. To see organisations like BAFTA and the BBC behave as though this mass targetting is in any way acceptable is just horrifying.

I just hope John knows he is understood and supported by many of us.

Augarden · 23/02/2026 20:57

YABU to make another thread about this.

Laiste · 23/02/2026 20:57

PollyBell · 23/02/2026 20:46

So if he cant help it would he randomly call a white person or a duck or a chair as in a random thing the same word?

I think the thing is with this disability is the temptation to say the worst thing at that moment. It's like intrusive thoughts - walking behind someone, worst thing would to be to kick them up the arse, for example. So that's all you can think about.

My two pence worth is that he could possibly have briefly apologised for any offence. He's not apologising for his disability, but for any offence (it) caused on the night. A bit of effing and jeffing is nothing to apologise for, but the N word is very jarring.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:57

NoSoupForU · 23/02/2026 20:55

Jesus fucking christ. Not this again.

No he doesn't owe an apology. No disabled person needs to apologise for their disability.

People need to actually have some compassion, understanding and tolerance. Maybe focus some energy on learning the difference between a wilful behaviour and a tic which is not within the individual's control.

I mean, if only there were a BAFTA winning film about this very thing, eh?

Ha, compassion!!! That’s exactly the point.

if you had compassion you would see why it was an awful situation for those actors as much as it was for John.

Why is an apology such a hard thing to do!

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Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 20:57

One of the easiest and quickest decisions I've made when choosing the option on AIBU. I guess the other goady thread being full was bound to bring a new one.

BengalBangle · 23/02/2026 20:58

Yes, I do think he should apologise (and I say this as a parent of a child with Tourettes and with another close family member with the condition).
Apologising for impact is not apologising for his disability.
As a white person, I will never understand truly the impact of the 'N' word, but even I, instead my white centred world, can see just how much harm has been done in the absence of a sincere apology.

Petrolitis · 23/02/2026 20:58

I think youre a disgrace for demonising a man with a disability.

We don't even lock up people who do really fucking awful stuff if they are not responsible for their own actions due to a mental health condition. Yet you want a man to apologise for his disability.

I'm a woman, if he called me a bitch or a cunt, I may be shocked but I would shrug it off because he CANNOT help it.

Honesty, youre a complete twat for even suggesting he needs to apologise, stop being so ableist.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:59

If someone with an anxiety disorder shoves a child in a panic — unintentional, condition-driven — do we tell the child to just understand? No. We expect an “I’m sorry I hurt you.”

If a sleepwalker punches their partner in the night — zero intent — we still acknowledge the person with the bruise. We don’t tell them they’re being oversensitive for wanting that recognised.

Not one of those people is being blamed for their condition. But the hurt caused is still real. Still valid. Still deserves acknowledgement.

The fact that’s apparently controversial tells me everything about who’s in this thread and what they’ve never had to experience.

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PollyBell · 23/02/2026 21:00

Petrolitis · 23/02/2026 20:58

I think youre a disgrace for demonising a man with a disability.

We don't even lock up people who do really fucking awful stuff if they are not responsible for their own actions due to a mental health condition. Yet you want a man to apologise for his disability.

I'm a woman, if he called me a bitch or a cunt, I may be shocked but I would shrug it off because he CANNOT help it.

Honesty, youre a complete twat for even suggesting he needs to apologise, stop being so ableist.

So having a disability means a person cant be racist, sexist, abelist themselves just because they have a disability make them a saint?

How patronising at best

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 21:00

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:36

@XenoBitchhis apology DOES mean something to millions of black people all around the world.

He can apologise a hundred times over, and he will tic again.

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 21:01

BengalBangle · 23/02/2026 20:58

Yes, I do think he should apologise (and I say this as a parent of a child with Tourettes and with another close family member with the condition).
Apologising for impact is not apologising for his disability.
As a white person, I will never understand truly the impact of the 'N' word, but even I, instead my white centred world, can see just how much harm has been done in the absence of a sincere apology.

Thank you. I really appreciate your comment.

it’s the context that’s different people don’t understand. A racial slur on a stage of millions must have been so hurtful, embarrassing, so many emotions.

who would an apology have offended? No one. So apologise ffs!

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Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 21:01

XenoBitch · 23/02/2026 21:00

He can apologise a hundred times over, and he will tic again.

Maybe next time, he can shout gammon. That slur is acceptable for some reason.

Miggledyhiggledy · 23/02/2026 21:02

notaurewhatusername · 23/02/2026 20:59

If someone with an anxiety disorder shoves a child in a panic — unintentional, condition-driven — do we tell the child to just understand? No. We expect an “I’m sorry I hurt you.”

If a sleepwalker punches their partner in the night — zero intent — we still acknowledge the person with the bruise. We don’t tell them they’re being oversensitive for wanting that recognised.

Not one of those people is being blamed for their condition. But the hurt caused is still real. Still valid. Still deserves acknowledgement.

The fact that’s apparently controversial tells me everything about who’s in this thread and what they’ve never had to experience.

Have you experienced tourette's?

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