New Epstein allegation horrifying

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Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

The thing that was most concerning for me re: pizzagate was nothing to do with pizza. It was the really disturbing pictures of babies and children on James Alefantis’s Instagram.

I didn't say she "knew"
I said she spoke to me about this and at the time I dismissed it as being utterly ridiculous! And I was shocked at what she said Because I couldn't believe a subject like this would have crossed her mind let alone voiced an opinion about it and only recently she again said I told u didn't I about pizza gate and again I laughed !
I'm not laughing now thou !
Again my daughter is not into this kind of conspiracy stuff

Those of you who haven’t heard of a baby smuggling ring for the purpose of devil worship, sacrifice and torture need only to look in social media. It’s all there. Is it true? A month ago I’d’ve said definitely not but now..? There are some very, very disturbing allegations about people who are household names and others who are not. The UK media are concentrating on AMW and SF however.

Epstein's email about 'enjoying the torture video' was made to a rich Dubai businessman. Dubai is known for men paying to subject women to extreme sexual abuse and torture.

And that makes it ok then?

I doubt the FBI are doing much.

Apparently, there's insufficient evidence to charge anyone. Had Epstien not experienced his untimely death then, presumably, that could have changed.

There's also Maxwell, who is angling for clemency from Trump, who has been afforded remarkable privileges in recent times by the Justice Department - particularly being moved to a much nicer and low security prison (which, of course, happened very shortly after it became clear Trump's own party would back the release of the files - causing an extraordinary long recess - and Trump's former personal attorney, paid her a visit).

It's odd, isn't it, that the Administration does not appear to be suggesting the possibility of clemency if Maxwell offers enough useful information or evidence to secure some convictions? Instead the Administration seems quite keen to obstruct the release of the files and remains desperate for everyone to shut up about them and move on.

Thank goodness the current administration isn't also exerting unprecedented influence, in ways that upend constitutional norms, over the Justice Department based upon the whims of sitting president....otherwise, it'd almost look suspicious.

Interesting that the Epstein files have been released now, ie a time in which so much can be faked by AI. I'm quite sure that those with something to hide will be muddying the waters as much as possible. Technology/media is at a "sweet spot" for them at the moment, when do much shit can be convincingly faked, and we're not yet at a point technologically where things can be concretely verified.

I have worked briefly with 2 children who were born not for families , but for cp rings. I can imagine all sorts of unhinged stuff goes on

Huh? Where did I it was ok?

There has to be a court case. So much needs to be clarified so victims can seek redress and abusers be prosecuted.

Bate in mind, it was 'discredited' by a journalist who was later convicted of being a paedo.

Qanon have been going on about this stuff for years and I always thought they were bonkers. Not so much now.

Bear in mind, it is widely and entirely discredited and you are repeating a false claim from a bullshit meme

apnews.com/article/fact-check-pizzagate-conspiracy-elon-musk-ABC-657657139374

Ultimately we have always known that there are powerful people who harm children. Whatever add-ons there are, it will true somewhere. In terms of an organised ring - I think our judiciary points at the likelihood of it every time they behave as if child abuse is a victimless crime. The rich and powerful will always close ranks.

Considering the contents of the files regarding pizza and grape soda (and other food items plus the jokes about pizza gate), I now believe pizza gate is real. The files are abhorrent.

There was a case of a man in the Philippines sexually abusing, torturing and murdering babies and children for paying customers on the dark web. I think the man was either Australian or British. There was also the case of two British women being involved in online groups that torture and kill animals to order. Some of these animals were baby monkeys dressed in human baby clothing. These are verified cases and probably the tip of the iceberg.

The crimes (as I’m sure there are crimes) were committed in so many places, each with different legal systems. The perpetrators are from all around the world. The victims from all around the world and now living all around the world, are afraid to talk.

And enough money to cover a multitude of sins.

Much of the evidence so far seems to be hearsay.

I think it will be a long time before the mess is untangled.

I very much fear that a lot of this will turn out to be true. There will have been young girls who got pregnant and had babies. These births will have been concealed, by either farming them out to be adopted or killing them. So no, I definitely wouldn’t be surprised if it were to come out that there were the bodies of babies discovered at Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico.

The cannibalism does sound sensationalist, IMO, that may have been added to make the claims about dead babies sound sensationalist too. But, right now, I wouldn’t be too sure about even that. These are very sick, perverted people we’re talking about.

What’s needed is for the FBI to investigate thoroughly and bring to trial all the perpetrators, however untouchable they are considered to be. That’s the only way we’ll ever know what’s true and what’s sensationalism.

It is so difficult to pick through what is real and what is false. I would not be at all surprised if there were bodies, but I haven't yet seen any credible source covering this.

There is so much misinformation and people don't necessarily have the ability to distinguish between what is fact and what is fiction. People are claiming that stuff is "in the files" but then citing Instagram etc as the source.

I have no wish to access the DOJ files directly, as I don't want to see stuff that I can't unsee. And as things stand, I remain sceptical about any claims that haven't been picked up by at least one reputable media source, whether in the UK or in some other country. The media usually love a lurid story, so if the evidence is there, I think at least someone would cover it.

Caught up in the 'We believe you, NIck' stuff here on MN. 'Nick' was actually Carl Beech, himself a paedophile.

Bloody hell. A sobering post 😱

The problem is I remember people going on about Pizzagate and Q Anon at the time all thought it was a Democrat-run operation. Even some prominent Republicans bought into it as a way to smear Democrats. However now that it has actually been exposed as real but is mainly implicating Republicans and those who are friends with them, there is a lot of silence and dismissals from those who previously wouldn't shut up about it when they thought the Democrats were involved.

The whole thing makes me sick and everyone involved needs stringing up.

Sounds like a Mirror headline.
PERSON DOES NEWSWORTHY THING!

Yes. People politicising situations massively undermines the credibility of it. I wish political people would stop the smears and scandal mongering that muddy the waters and make government hard. And truth hard to see.

Who were eating babies?