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New Epstein allegation horrifying

350 replies

Daygloboo · 18/02/2026 23:20

Just that. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse. Now horrific allegations about a property on New Mexico.

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Snorlaxo · 19/02/2026 05:40

@user1492757084 The victim’s can’t do that because Epstein had them participate in illegal stuff like finding new underage victims. They need immunity ;and witness protection) if they are to help the investigation identify the people who participated and what they did. We all know why that won’t happen- the people in power don’t want to be exposed and the people with the power to pursue things don’t want to be a target and nd like Virginia G.

Minorie · 19/02/2026 06:39

Famousinlove · 19/02/2026 02:20

Yes there's a theory that some powerful people involved (like the Clintons) weaved fake (slightly ridiculous) information into it so that it could be debunked as false.

A lot of people are quick to write these off as conspiracy theories because they sound so ludacris they can't possibly be true.. well up until very recently, most people didn't believe P Diddy was running a sex trafficking ring 'he's a successful billionaire why would he do that?'

I thought that about those Porta Potty dubai women where western women/influencers go there then get abused/forced to do disgusting things for money. Like I thought it cant be true, but I can imagine there are some real sickos out there getting their kicks. Im sure this Epstein stuff will get much worse but they are throwing him under the bus to avoid incriminating others

MuskIsACnt · 19/02/2026 06:48

Nothing at all would surprise me now. These men dont see the children they rape as worth anything, so murder isn’t really a big step.

There’s the evidence Epstein bought 330 gallons of sulphuric acid (what’s used to destroy bodies) just when he was about ti be investigated https://www.news18.com/world/epstein-bought-330-gallons-of-sulphuric-acid-the-day-fbi-launched-probe-files-reveal-ws-l-9893943.html

The thing about this story in my opinion is that, it’s not about Epstein or Andrew, it’s a story of how these terrible crimes happened in full view of the majority of the world’s rich and powerful men for decades and those men not only did nothing, but probably participated (in the rape of children and vulnerable trafficked women at least).

These people don’t care about anyone but themselves. They’d just as happily do this to your children. They should all be tried and taken off our streets forever. Of course they won’t be because they literally run the world.

TimeForATerf · 19/02/2026 06:51

Gunsgunsguns · 19/02/2026 00:42

I once had a very intelligent young lady (training to be a lawyer) tell me with dead certainty pizzagate was real. I was like what is that!? Have heard it but never really looked at it. She said it’s an elite ring of powerful people who rape, torture and kill children. I thought she was bonkers. But noted also very strange as not in her character to be a wild conspiracy theorist and she did look deadly serious. But even if true - how could you actually know that.

Maybe she was right!

I believe this and I’m not one for conspiracy theories. I listened to Andrew Gold’s podcast with Anneke Lucas and it was very distressing, but believable.

The world is truly a horrible place.

Ticktockk · 19/02/2026 07:06

The clever thing about them releasing millions of documents is that it’s very hard to know where to start. Nothing will happen for a long time.

It’s going to be eye opening for sure, when we finally learn the truth. So many conspiracy stories that suddenly have the potential to be true eg. Pizzagate/ Maddy etc

Sartre · 19/02/2026 07:26

This is the issue with AI, people think they’re living in some sort of uncanny valley and everything is potentially fake. I highly doubt anything released is falsified, the only worrying thing is how much was redacted to protect certain elites (including Trump).

The torture / murder doesn’t surprise me in ways, shocking though it is. There’s no way a man responsible for trafficking thousands of young girls didn’t severely harm some of them. I think it’s much easier to get away with poor girls from the east than it ever would be Americans.

LondonPapa · 19/02/2026 07:27

Daygloboo · 18/02/2026 23:48

Murder apparently..and a formal to investigation

The code is ‘whoops’. If you read the files, there are lots of murders across various locations. This also isn’t a new allegation as has been out for a while. I guess the news is slow due to how it is distributed. But there is much worse in the files.

IcantFeelMyFaceNow · 19/02/2026 07:30

I think very rich men, given complete protection from discovery and with an appetite for this sort of thing, will have zero issues with taking it as far as possible. I believe there will have been the worst sorts of depravity, torture and murders because why wouldn't there be?

Nimbus3000 · 19/02/2026 07:33

@Brassknucks it stood out for me in your post that the man you knew who was arrested for possession of videos - somebody somewhere made those videos, which means children were/are being tortured and murdered somewhere and by someone. I think that would be easier for people with wealth, property and impunity to do than for most people.

2021x · 19/02/2026 07:33

I am not still not sure about the details of the cannibalism etc.. I will wait for some proof to come out. It will take a huge amount of time to go through those documents in a coherent way.

Someone on another thread explained that the reason that they aren't prosecuting any more people at the moment is because their is a risk that they won't have enough concrete evidence to secure a conviction and then they can't be retried. These are incredibly powerful, wealthy and well connected people. The FBI would not have enough resources to put a case together that would stand up against the level of defence these people can buy.

As a reminder- more than 80 women independently accused Weinstien before they were able to pin him down. 36 underage girls accused Epstien before his 2008 trial. They have to show repeated patterns of abusive behaviour to get a conviction. As violence towards women is generally sexually orientated, and sexually orientated behaviour happens behind closed doors they lack believable witnesses to corroborate the accusers.

It is impossible to know how to get justice in a situation like this.

ThankYouVeryMuchJerry · 19/02/2026 07:35

These people always find one another. Online, in prisons, look back to the historic claims of child abuse in institutions, even back to Victorian eras a peado has always found itself drawn to other peados

I watched a BBC4 documentary called The Darkest Web this week (it’s on iplayer) which was both terrible and fascinating. I thought I’d switch it off but couldn’t. It follows how these people are finally caught. But it’s a slow process which takes a harrowing toll on those investigating. The network on the dark web of these monsters is vast and very active. There are hundreds of thousands of them. And too few investigators in comparison. It’s so horrifying and yet so little is being done about it in the scheme of things

Francestein · 19/02/2026 07:36

Is this where all the babies went too, maybe. Horrible, horrible people. Jail isn’t bad enough.

Sheeshsville · 19/02/2026 07:36

What happened to Tom Watson and his involvement in trying to uncover some of this? I remember being quite excited a few years ago, that he seemed to be a hope for pushing forward investigations. Or am I mis-remembering things? Did he get discredited in some way?

Aberdeenusername · 19/02/2026 07:38

StartingFreshFor2026 · 19/02/2026 03:44

I actually don't understand- eating babies is referenced in the publicly available Epstein files but no major reporter / media outlet has picked it up?

It’s there in the files and pictures of lots of small children - at that island. One with a picture of children sat round a dinner table with a roasted human on the table. There’s references in emails about how the human babies taste, eating their intestines etc follow bigggwinter on Instagram if you can mentally handle what’s on those files but it’s far worse than what’s being metioned here. Also hence why Beyoncé, Jay z etc are all getting comments on their social media about being baby eaters etc

FluentOP · 19/02/2026 07:42

AutumnedCrow · 18/02/2026 23:50

The Express is running allegations about Andrew at Frogmore Cottage. I’ve posted on another thread.

I seriously don’t know what to think or believe at this point.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2172732/new-andrew-bombshell-epstein-files

I wonder if it was ever investigated! It made me think of the 17 year old Latvian girl found dead on Sandringham, see link:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jan/08/sandringham-body-identified-latvian-student

Also a body of a young woman was found in the Kensington Garden pond in 2020, see link:

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-found-dead-in-royal-park-near-william-and-kates-kensington-palace-home-12064542

Sandringham body identified as missing Latvian student

Police confirm remains found on royal estate in Norfolk are those of 17-year-old who disappeared from her home in August

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jan/08/sandringham-body-identified-latvian-student

deadpan · 19/02/2026 07:42

So a bloke received an email 7 years ago that said the sender knew there were bodies buried in the grounds of the ranch, and the bloke who received the email didn't do anything about it. Even though Epstein had already been found guilty of soliciting a minor.
No-one seems to have been bothered about that conviction, it didn't put Andrew or fergie off or many of his friends.

diddl · 19/02/2026 07:44

She said it’s an elite ring of powerful people who rape, torture and kill children.

Sadly that wouldn't surprise me.

Carla786 · 19/02/2026 07:45

Aberdeenusername · 19/02/2026 07:38

It’s there in the files and pictures of lots of small children - at that island. One with a picture of children sat round a dinner table with a roasted human on the table. There’s references in emails about how the human babies taste, eating their intestines etc follow bigggwinter on Instagram if you can mentally handle what’s on those files but it’s far worse than what’s being metioned here. Also hence why Beyoncé, Jay z etc are all getting comments on their social media about being baby eaters etc

Is this the picture you mean? There's evidence it was altered

https://www.thequint.com/news/webqoof/epstein-files-bill-clinton-mick-jagger-eating-babies-meat-edited-photo-fact-check?utm_source=chatgpt.com#read-more

Photo of White Food in Front of Epstein, Bill Clinton and Mick Jagger Is Edited

Fact-Check: An edited photo showing white food on the table in front of Jeffrey Epstein, Mick Jagger, and Bill Clinton is being shared on social media, where users have linked it to speculations about people eating babies.

https://www.thequint.com/news/webqoof/epstein-files-bill-clinton-mick-jagger-eating-babies-meat-edited-photo-fact-check#read-more

Tigermammy71 · 19/02/2026 07:46

Just when you think things couldn't possibly get any worse 😞

IcantFeelMyFaceNow · 19/02/2026 07:47

deadpan · 19/02/2026 07:42

So a bloke received an email 7 years ago that said the sender knew there were bodies buried in the grounds of the ranch, and the bloke who received the email didn't do anything about it. Even though Epstein had already been found guilty of soliciting a minor.
No-one seems to have been bothered about that conviction, it didn't put Andrew or fergie off or many of his friends.

You are assuming people have morals when massive amounts of money are in the picture too. They don't. Blue bloods are the worst of the lot for expecting and getting exactly what they want. Everyone has their price.

Aberdeenusername · 19/02/2026 07:47

Oh no it’s a whole person on the dinner roasted.

exhaustedmum24 · 19/02/2026 07:47

THIS DOES NOT SURPRISE ME

canisquaeso · 19/02/2026 07:48

An investigation being launched doesn’t necessarily mean anything. When it was the Armie cannibal Hammer scandal there were also all sorts of accusations flying around about a motel in California (iirc) and it had nothing to do with him, he was just your average run of the mill perv.

Grooming is extremely common, more so by men with access to money. I highly doubt there’s a lot more to it than that and a lot of these conspiracies will just end up distracting the public from the fact that young women are systematically exploited anywhere in the world.

EasternStandard · 19/02/2026 07:49

I haven’t seen any of this, only one clip of a young woman distressed from ages ago. I didn’t look to see how real it was.