Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

[KillTheTurkey]

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

And given the stats, I think it’s fair to risk assess and treat men differently from women.

Fucking hell, 8 pages in before I saw this thread and the desperation in some of these responses in trying to make the OP wrong, or to wilfully misunderstand, or pretend it wasn’t written well enough to understand, is utterly, utterly laughable and also, sadly, horrifyingly predictable.

Tbf I did post in AIBU, I was expecting the MN hairdryer treatment (and nitpicking, and elevenerifing, and wilful misunderstanding).

The really laughable thing is that each and every one helps to make the OP's point.

The arguments are so weak - fallacious / illogical / performatively Homer-Simpson-esque - they mostly reinforce the point OP was making.

Where that's not immediately the case, they provide a platform on which to post counter-arguments that are typically so damning that they reinforce the OP's point.

Above all, though, these attempts to ridicule/challenge OP demonstrate in real time her biggest point of all: that there actually is an urgent need to say what she does in her OP - to raise awareness of it, and force society to look these ugly truths in the face.

Because resistance to doing this, and by extension to addressing the issue, is - as this thread so clearly shows - still very much an issue.

Which is, presumably, why OP added the proviso ‘on the whole’ …

But at least she was correct with the
‘I’ve clearly failed to explain this in simple enough terms’ bit.
🙄

QED ⬆️ ⬇️

Yep - I agree.
All the women in prison for shop lifting and TV licence evasion should absolutely be freed so that the estates can be used for violent male criminals.
That is what you meant, isn’t it?

I don't know if this is still true but a few years back I read that the most common crime that women are in prison for is not paying their TV licence. For men it's violent crimes. And men are less likely than women to get prison sentences for minor shit like not paying their tv licence or petty shoplifting

There are a lot of women in prison for petty 'crime' so often borne from poverty, addiction, lack of education, and assisting, or carrying the can for, male partners.
It's so sad.

Apart from the men who pretend to be women in women’s prisons, the vast majority of women in the prison estate are incarcerated for non violent crimes.

I don’t understand the point of your response.

"Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK"

So which sex commit the other 10% then?

Guess it will be Impossible to say if ( as you suggest ) these are not to be recorded....

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Actually it was very reasonably worded.

Here it is put far more plainly - people who vote for Reform are not necessarily retards or unable to grasp facts and statistics. They have indeed made an informed choice.

They are simply racist fucks who prefer to indulge their hatred rather than have a properly governed country.

Wow. You really struggle with comprehension, don’t you?

(eta - here’s a clue: the OP didn’t suggest any such thing)

This is a whole new level of stupid. And there’s been a few on this thread but you win.

The OP did NOT say crimes committed by women should not be recorded as being by women.

She was talking about crimes committed by men who identify as women - those crimes should still be recorded as being committed by men.

And this is the kind of post that makes me wary of aspects of what the current Left stand for in ways I'd never expected. It used to be a tiny minority, but we see it more and more now. Dehumanising, abusive and above all reductive generalisations about vast swathes of a population, all the while masquerading as moral superiority.

I mean, that always went so well in the 20th century.

We just don't learn, do we?

May I refer you to my previous reply.

Particularly the last sentence.

Sexist low lief trying to justify being sexist low life. Nothing more.

It’s the language reform voters understand.

"Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK"

"These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such"

"The OP did NOT say crimes committed by women should not be recorded as being by women."

That's quite some gaslighting you got going on there!😂

That's quite some misunderstanding you've got going on there.

The point of her response is that there are pp stating that violence is committed equally by men and women. She is pointing out it isn't

Once more. But only once, then I've done my bit!

So...

The demonstrative pronoun "these" refers to the 90% of violent crimes committed by men - ie. the noun-phrase referred to immediately before it.

In other words, this makes perfect sense: these particular crimes committed by men should be accurately recorded as committed by men.

You wonder where to start. Is it grammar? logic? reading comprehension? maths? probability, even ("Which of these two possible meanings I think I can see here is the likeliest interpretation of what I just read?")?

Or maybe rhetoric - the basics of how to make a persuasive counter-argument?

Because they all seem to apply to posts like this one.

The worrying thing is, it's probably the rhetoric issue - they think they've found a clever gotcha - but you're never quite sure if it isn't actually a quite genuine struggle to process the OP.

Not exactly. As of 2023 data, 74% of people prosecuted for the offense of TV licence evasion are women. It's the offence with the highest proportion of female vs male defendants and accounts for 12% of all female prosecutions. TV licencing put this disparity down to women being more likely to be at home during the day when checks are carried out.

People don't go to prison for TV licence evasion though, they can only be fined...although they can be given a custodial sentence in extreme circumstances for willfully refusing to pay the court ordered fine for the original offence. It's extremely rare though. The data shows a 'zero or near-zero' number of people in prison for the offence of not paying a TV licence fine, male or female.

Shoplifting was the most common indictable (more serious) offence for women, making up 27% of all indictable offense prosecutions. In 2022 it accounted for 36% of women's prison sentences of less than 6 months, vs 13% for men.