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Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

360 replies

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 19:17

Plasticdreams · 13/02/2026 19:14

Immigration figures, tax and spending promises being totally unrealistic, Brexit related claims, net zero. They’re total retards and so are the people who vote for them.

Your response is comprehensive, intelligent, objective and reasonably worded, using facts and statistics to back up your arguements. It's very persuasive. Particularly the word "retard" which doesn't reflect on you at all.

sunshinestar1986 · 13/02/2026 19:17

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

Agree
What can we do about it 🤔
Most people in power are men.
And they are the worst.

One thing we can do about it i think, is make sure our son's are doing chores in the house, taking responsibility,and accountability from an early age.

Not letting them get away with things because they smiled sweetly and said sorry.
And getting boys active.
Inactive boys become aggressive and get up to all sorts.
I think they need a sense of belonging quite early, I recommend martial arts.
Do not give boys access to smart phones or PlayStations. If they have access to the Internet and games then they need to be supervised at all times.
let's make corn a taboo and ban it.

If a boy becomes aggressive, get help early.
Do not wait until he does damage saying but he's only 12.

l know all this applies to girls too but it feels like boys need things spelled out for them, they need to be taught empathy and sympathy, like girls they should be taught pro social behaviours.

No need for women to come up saying my son is an angel please
No one is an angel.

Anything else?
I have a 3 year old son and what I see in the world scares me.

tartyflette · 13/02/2026 19:18

springawakeningss · 13/02/2026 18:50

They are the minority, but it can't be claimed "these are not women crimes" because that's untrue

How many women have been imprisoned, executed (or died by suicide in the same event) for committing mass shootings?
It's overwhelmingly a 'male' crime, i.e. a crime committed by males.
Clearly women can and do kill, the victims tend to be members of their own families. So-called 'spree' shooters such as this, are nearly all male, as are serial killers. There are very, very few women serial killers or spree shooters,
And yes, Rose West and Myra Hindley -- we know their names precisely because they are so very rare.

TheWalkingEyebag · 13/02/2026 19:24

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 17:57

AIBU is an interesting place! The discussion has been robust, as expected. A couple of clarifications:

  1. I posted this in response to this week’s school shooting, where the perpetrator was initially presumed female by reports. My immediate presumption was that it would be a man or young man.
  2. Why was it reported this way, when we know that such crimes are not committed by women and girls?
  3. Might we now see a backlash against crimes committed by men being wrongly attributed to women?

Presumed female was reported in the emergency alert due to witness reports: female in a dress with brown hair. But please, this is not the time to start using this unimaginably tragic event as a new statistic to fuel arguments about which demographic causes the most harm.

Tarkadaaaahling · 13/02/2026 19:25

ThejoyofNC · 13/02/2026 16:44

Maybe we should fill the women's prisons with men then? Seeing as they're just sat there empty.

In the UK women represent just 4% of the prison population. Men are the other 96%.

There aren't nearly as many places in prisons for women because we don't need them, because vastly fewer women are committing the sort of crimes you are jailed for in the UK 👌

cranberryhaddock · 13/02/2026 19:26

I'm calling TAAT here.

QuietPiggy · 13/02/2026 19:28

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 17:27

But you can only commit the legal definition of rape if you have a penis. So 100% of rapes are committed by men not 98%. What's the other 2%?

A woman can be charged with rape if she assists or encourages a man to commit rape, for example by holding the victim down or by egging on the man and filming the rape, or by luring the woman to an isolated spot in order for the man to rape her.

dreichluver · 13/02/2026 19:29
I Know Lol GIF by HBO Max

We been knew. However it's always worth repeating for the terminally stupid.

Cheese55 · 13/02/2026 19:30

UnemployedNotRetired · 13/02/2026 19:06

Baby murders (under 1 year) are committed by women more often than men. And for about 1/3 of the under-5s, last I checked.

Edited

Women who murder babies (under 1 year) are often experiencing post partum psychosis

vitahelp · 13/02/2026 19:33

It’s true though isn’t it, if a perpetrator hasn’t been named yet you can always safely assume it is a man. You might be wrong once in a while but that’s a rarity.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 19:40

QuietPiggy · 13/02/2026 19:28

A woman can be charged with rape if she assists or encourages a man to commit rape, for example by holding the victim down or by egging on the man and filming the rape, or by luring the woman to an isolated spot in order for the man to rape her.

Ah thank you. I did not know that. The law has changed since my law school days (for the better).

Catiette · 13/02/2026 19:42

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 17:20

The OP’s initial post was not well written.
I can see how someone could read it that way.

Edited

It presumed a modicum of common sense, that's all. Like the Supreme Court judgement. To (literally - and what a line that was!) use part of today's judgement, the OP presumes that most readers aren't “divorced from reality and from any sensible model of human behaviour".

Alternatively, to be as syntactically pedantic as some posters are choosing to be, it could also be explained thusly: in the OP, the demonstrative word "these" refers to the 99, 95-98 and 90% stats occurring immediately prior to it (ie., to proportions of crimes committed by males). As demonstratives tend to do. Despite other posters' best efforts, this is grammatically and logically sound. Those crimes committed by males should "never, ever" be referred to as having a female perpetrator.

NB. Those pedantic posters may also note that I chose "presume", with its connotations of a strong evidence base, to be polite! I think "assume" and "presume" both work in the OP, but agree that "presume" reflects the exceptionally high percentages more aptly, emphasising that this is not an issue of prejudice, but rather of probability.

I'm honestly not usually this Hermione-ish or sarky, but seriously...

(Well, OK, I am a bit Hermione-ish tbh... 😅)

ERthree · 13/02/2026 19:43

The problem is you can't fix stupid and there are some very stupid people.

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:47

Is this your approach and style when you teach your classes @KillTheTurkey ? When you discuss current affairs with your own sons?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 19:48

ERthree · 13/02/2026 19:43

The problem is you can't fix stupid and there are some very stupid people.

Although TBF whenever someone posts something about other people being stupid, I always have a slight suspicion they may be referring to themselves. It's not hugely helpful in any discussion.

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 19:49

UnemployedNotRetired · 13/02/2026 19:06

Baby murders (under 1 year) are committed by women more often than men. And for about 1/3 of the under-5s, last I checked.

Edited

Yes and as your post shows the older the child (under 18) is the more likely the killer will be a male.

Males kill female at a higher rate.
Males kill males at a higher rate.

And for anybody who wants to read more about the "stats/trends" :

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html

Global Study on Homicide

Global Study on Homicide

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html

Alucard55 · 13/02/2026 19:57

NotAnotherScarf · 13/02/2026 17:25

Myra Hindley, Rose West anyone. And let me guess you feed into Radio 4s Womans Hour line that women only commit crime to please men or because they are forced to?

Sorry violent behaviour is universal, I've seen enough women fighting to know that.

For every Rose West there are 100 Fred Wests.

Catiette · 13/02/2026 19:57

The "baby murder" thing seems to be a popular trope at the moment to deflect from a focus on male violence. Curiously, it never seems to take into account things like:

  • the proportionate number of women raising kids alone, meaning:
  • far greater contact with children
  • far greater pressure and associated mental illness
  • with regard to that, the proportionate role of mental illness, PND etc. & contrasting contexts to & motivations for killing
KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:00

FindingMeno · 13/02/2026 18:58

Why the fuck is it that when a fact is stated about men, some people have to scrat about throwing in a few outlier women just to challenge that fact?
How are we ever going to do something about this serious and deeply concerning threat that women face if we prefer to live in la la land?
With the terrifyingly low conviction rates for rape, the many cases of police officers involved in criminal offences against women, and this lack of acknowledgement that there is even a problem, I despair.

I can’t understand the impulse to play devil’s advocate. It’s so tedious, and it’s almost always a false premise or logical fallacy.

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KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:02

Assword · 13/02/2026 19:47

Is this your approach and style when you teach your classes @KillTheTurkey ? When you discuss current affairs with your own sons?

Of course not! This is AIBU. I ask lots of questions and listen carefully to other perspectives.

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Assword · 13/02/2026 20:03

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:02

Of course not! This is AIBU. I ask lots of questions and listen carefully to other perspectives.

Phew

Assword · 13/02/2026 20:04

Do you only have sons? @KillTheTurkey

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:04

cranberryhaddock · 13/02/2026 19:26

I'm calling TAAT here.

Feel free to report the OP, then 👍

OP posts:
KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:04

Assword · 13/02/2026 20:04

Do you only have sons? @KillTheTurkey

Yes.

OP posts:
Assword · 13/02/2026 20:08

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 20:04

Yes.

No wonder you’re using mumsnet then to discuss this

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