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Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

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KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

OP posts:
RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 18:24

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 18:22

The point that men are the main perpetrators of violent crime.
Those who have mentioned Arthur Labinjo, Star Hobson, and others who were murdered by women are quickly corrected by the mantra "yes but they are the minoriy" as if they dont matter as much as the victims of male violence

Do you think men are the main perpetrators of violent crime or not?

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 18:31

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 18:22

The point that men are the main perpetrators of violent crime.
Those who have mentioned Arthur Labinjo, Star Hobson, and others who were murdered by women are quickly corrected by the mantra "yes but they are the minoriy" as if they dont matter as much as the victims of male violence

The fact is they are the minority.
That fact does not mean the crime itself is less awful and the victims less important.

BeardofHagrid · 13/02/2026 18:31

Men should not be working in nurseries, I know that for sure. As evidenced by TWO horrific stories in one week. That should be enough to put an end to their employment in nurseries, forever.

Yes, women do offend, but it’s not even in the same ball park. Men are the root of all evil on this planet. That is a fact.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:31

Lilactimes · 13/02/2026 18:22

To start with their economic policies are unaffordable and clearly can not be reconciled with the OBR so immediately we would be in a financial pickle similar to after Liz Truss and Reform would have to back down.

second Nigel Farage has earned more from outside parliamentary interests than any other serving MP - 980k since being voted in. He rarely attends PMs questions.
his closeness to Trump is worrying for so many reasons but especially since Trumps disrespect to NATO and our armies.

So yes, @Pineneedlesincarpet I would say men and women who are blindly believing Reform promises have not a modicum of ability to understand the evidence before their eyes .

They haven't published their manifesto yet. Why don't you wait until you have some "evidence" to go on.

What economic policies are unaffordable and why?

MPs are allowed to earn money outside parliament and plenty do. I think its a good thing. We need more of it so that these politicians have a handle on the real world rather than living in the Westminster bubble. But thats just my opinion that it is a good thing. And it differs from your opinion. But neither opinion as to whether it is objectively good or objectively bad is based on facts statistics or evidence. It would seem that perhaps you dont understand these things. Do you vote reform?

Imdunfer · 13/02/2026 18:32

I agree.

Now., what is actually possible, practical, affordable, achievable to do about it?

I said to my husband only yesterday (yes, he's one of the good ones) that I can see in future whole gated towns of women who choose to live with no men in their lives.

Imdunfer · 13/02/2026 18:34

BeardofHagrid · 13/02/2026 18:31

Men should not be working in nurseries, I know that for sure. As evidenced by TWO horrific stories in one week. That should be enough to put an end to their employment in nurseries, forever.

Yes, women do offend, but it’s not even in the same ball park. Men are the root of all evil on this planet. That is a fact.

Men are the root of all evil on this planet. That is a fact

You have an exceptionally narrow definition of evil.

ParmaVioletTea · 13/02/2026 18:35

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

And their victims are almost always women and girls. Thinking of the women and girls who are victims of family annihilators, and thinking of the women massacred by the Canadian incels this year and a decade ago.

tartyflette · 13/02/2026 18:36

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:45

Women don’t commit violent crime, on the whole. Women are in prison for lesser crimes.

I’ve clearly failed to explain this in simple enough terms. Still.

The reality of 'Female' crimes (we all know exactly what you meant, OP, the main crimes for which women are imprisoned) is that they are mainly linked to poverty or addiction, or both.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:37

Imdunfer · 13/02/2026 18:32

I agree.

Now., what is actually possible, practical, affordable, achievable to do about it?

I said to my husband only yesterday (yes, he's one of the good ones) that I can see in future whole gated towns of women who choose to live with no men in their lives.

That is sad but I think true. What's changed in women as the level of male violence has always been this way? The fact that men can now enter women's only spaces?

Squirrelsnut · 13/02/2026 18:39

The level of sheer stupidity on this thread is depressing me.
"But Myra Hindley!"
Fuck off.

wordler · 13/02/2026 18:41

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 17:54

Im not quite getting the point of this post. Nobody is disputing that men commit the majority of violent crimes. We dont need lecturing by Nanny.
Women can and do commit violent crimes but whenever someone points that out, there comes a barrage of "yes but....."
It sometimes seems that some people wish to minimise the acts of violence by women, just to prove their point 😡

The point is that there are crimes being reported as though a woman committed them when it was actually a male person identifying as a woman.

In Canada some of the news outlets are still talking about the recent shooter using her and she pronouns.

My DH had only vaguely heard about the shooting from a radio report and fully assumed the shooter was a woman.

persephonia · 13/02/2026 18:42

4ad4ever · 13/02/2026 18:15

I get what you’re saying but I think there’s often a naivety in some circles (middle class people, on here) about how capable women are of physical violence.
When I was younger I was unfortunately in and out of the local psychiatric unit where there was a lot of crossover between patients from there and the women’s prison.
I met women who had done things such as:
breaking another woman’s jaw in a chip shop for skipping her in the queue
hopping on a girl in the street and beating her up including breaking her eye socket
slashing someone’s face open with a Stanley blade
and these were minimum security in both institutions. They knew exactly what they were doing as well, they were not mentally ill like the rest of us. They’re homeless and bounce between institutions. My heart went out to them but they were fucking terrifying to be around.
Absolutely nothing in comparison with what men get up to though.
The head of that women’s prison got some flak one time because they hired some entertainers in there for a special occasion, sort of male strippers but only mildly raunchy. When people went predictably bananas about it being inappropriate and how the women are there to be punished, he basically said Listen, these women have had shit lives, nearly every one of them has been the victim of far more crimes than they’ve committed by a long, long straw and they deserve a bit of happiness in their lives even if it’s only for fifty minutes!

Women in more violent societies or communities tend to be more violent. But there levels of violence always track well below the levels of violence exhibited by men. It's not just nature that affects how someone will behave, nurture does as well. But even accounting for nurture there's a difference.

Imdunfer · 13/02/2026 18:43

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:37

That is sad but I think true. What's changed in women as the level of male violence has always been this way? The fact that men can now enter women's only spaces?

Women have woken up to the fact they don't have to tolerate this shit any more.

We can also see dreadful stuff coming down the line with social media, porn, cultures in our own cities which routinely deny basic human rights to women, MtF anti female aggression (thankfully now under attack on all sides), and we dropped the social construct that the principal value of a woman is to continue the human race.

The party is over for violent men, but it's never going to end completely and the decline is going to be slower than we would want.

springawakeningss · 13/02/2026 18:50

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 18:31

The fact is they are the minority.
That fact does not mean the crime itself is less awful and the victims less important.

They are the minority, but it can't be claimed "these are not women crimes" because that's untrue

RafaFan · 13/02/2026 18:50

LandOfFruitAndNut · 13/02/2026 16:46

I hear what you say but have zero clue why you are saying it

Horrific school shooting in rural British Columbia, Canada (8 dead, 25 injured). Perpetrator was 18 year old biological male who started transitioning to female at age of 12. Widely reported in the media that the shooter was a woman.

FindingMeno · 13/02/2026 18:58

Why the fuck is it that when a fact is stated about men, some people have to scrat about throwing in a few outlier women just to challenge that fact?
How are we ever going to do something about this serious and deeply concerning threat that women face if we prefer to live in la la land?
With the terrifyingly low conviction rates for rape, the many cases of police officers involved in criminal offences against women, and this lack of acknowledgement that there is even a problem, I despair.

Franjipanl8r · 13/02/2026 19:00

TallulahBetty · 13/02/2026 16:35

Crumb of context for the poor, m'lud?

🤣🤣🤣

CurlewKate · 13/02/2026 19:03

FindingMeno · 13/02/2026 18:58

Why the fuck is it that when a fact is stated about men, some people have to scrat about throwing in a few outlier women just to challenge that fact?
How are we ever going to do something about this serious and deeply concerning threat that women face if we prefer to live in la la land?
With the terrifyingly low conviction rates for rape, the many cases of police officers involved in criminal offences against women, and this lack of acknowledgement that there is even a problem, I despair.

It’s the patriarchy, innit? Also internalised misogyny.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 19:06

It's all so hypocritical.
I know for a fact that any woman here walking down a dark alley alone would much rather ask a woman for help than a man.
But they just keep boring on about Myra Hindley.

UnemployedNotRetired · 13/02/2026 19:06

Baby murders (under 1 year) are committed by women more often than men. And for about 1/3 of the under-5s, last I checked.

Isawhimstandingthere · 13/02/2026 19:07

The mumsnet jury has already exonerated Lucy letby just let her out already, poor rose west was just going along with that nasty man why is she in prison.

OneWildBiscuit · 13/02/2026 19:08

Changedname9999 · 13/02/2026 17:10

immediately in the aftermath people were warned to lock their doors against ‘a woman in a dress’. That person was still being described that way by news organisations a day later.

Grasping at rather pedantic straws with this.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 19:08

Isawhimstandingthere · 13/02/2026 19:07

The mumsnet jury has already exonerated Lucy letby just let her out already, poor rose west was just going along with that nasty man why is she in prison.

Can you show me where anyone has said RW or LL should be released?

OneWildBiscuit · 13/02/2026 19:09

OneWildBiscuit · 13/02/2026 19:08

Grasping at rather pedantic straws with this.

Soz...this wasn't meant to be under your comment, but can't seem to delete it!

Plasticdreams · 13/02/2026 19:14

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:09

Its a yougov and statista poll (which I have not heard of so cannot vouch for accuracy).

Theres nothing "obvious" about a vote for Reform requiring that you don't understand facts, statistics or evidence. That's just your assumption and you know what they say happens to people who assume....

What facts statistics and evidence do you assume that you are required to have an inability to understand, as a Reform voter?

Immigration figures, tax and spending promises being totally unrealistic, Brexit related claims, net zero. They’re total retards and so are the people who vote for them.