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Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

360 replies

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

OP posts:
RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 18:11

Blushingm · 13/02/2026 18:10

Myra Hindley, Lucy Letby, Beverly Allier, Bonny & Clyde (a couple), Joanna Denny

You should get those on a tshirt. The fact that you can, should tell you something.

taxcon · 13/02/2026 18:11

Men commit 100% of rapes......

MikeRafone · 13/02/2026 18:12

Blushingm · 13/02/2026 18:10

Myra Hindley, Lucy Letby, Beverly Allier, Bonny & Clyde (a couple), Joanna Denny

and for every violent female prisoner there are 9 other violent male prisoners

Enterthewolves · 13/02/2026 18:12

IkeaJesusChrist · 13/02/2026 16:56

So if a female shoots up a school, which they have done in the past, it shouldn't be reported as a female perpetrator?

Women don't sexually assault? Tell that to my brother in law who's ex wife sexually assaulted him and is in prison for it.

I get what you are saying but to say that they should never be recorded as females committing those crimes, even if they do commit them is a bit of a reach don't you think?

Not sure my BIL would appreciate it if his wife was recorded as a male perpetrator.

95% of mass shooting events are undertaken by men.

Megifer · 13/02/2026 18:12

Blushingm · 13/02/2026 18:10

Myra Hindley, Lucy Letby, Beverly Allier, Bonny & Clyde (a couple), Joanna Denny

Go on then, list violent men who have committed similar crimes.

We'll be on the iPhone 100 by the time you finish tho.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:12

Blushingm · 13/02/2026 18:10

Myra Hindley, Lucy Letby, Beverly Allier, Bonny & Clyde (a couple), Joanna Denny

I think you're misgendering poor Bonnie there a bit, Blush.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/02/2026 18:12

Blushingm · 13/02/2026 18:10

Myra Hindley, Lucy Letby, Beverly Allier, Bonny & Clyde (a couple), Joanna Denny

Why do you think they are notorious? You missed out Rose West btw for the full house.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:13

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/02/2026 18:12

Why do you think they are notorious? You missed out Rose West btw for the full house.

Oh and there was that girl who didn't like Mondays remember.

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 18:15

YouHaveAnArse · 13/02/2026 18:04

Is this an anti-men thread or an anti-trans thread? Just so we're all clear.

I want to know whether we're using this info as a justification to not allow men to work in caring professions or not to allow trans women to pee in the same toilets this time round. For clarity, you understand. Cheers.

You are being transphobic there. 🙊

You quite literally disappeared 50% of that small subclass of the population.

In just one line they ceased to exist💅

Theunamedcat · 13/02/2026 18:15

YouHaveAnArse · 13/02/2026 18:04

Is this an anti-men thread or an anti-trans thread? Just so we're all clear.

I want to know whether we're using this info as a justification to not allow men to work in caring professions or not to allow trans women to pee in the same toilets this time round. For clarity, you understand. Cheers.

Its an anti press thread because of piss poor reporting its an anti lie thread because these are not women's crimes its an ive had enough of bullshit thread

4ad4ever · 13/02/2026 18:15

I get what you’re saying but I think there’s often a naivety in some circles (middle class people, on here) about how capable women are of physical violence.
When I was younger I was unfortunately in and out of the local psychiatric unit where there was a lot of crossover between patients from there and the women’s prison.
I met women who had done things such as:
breaking another woman’s jaw in a chip shop for skipping her in the queue
hopping on a girl in the street and beating her up including breaking her eye socket
slashing someone’s face open with a Stanley blade
and these were minimum security in both institutions. They knew exactly what they were doing as well, they were not mentally ill like the rest of us. They’re homeless and bounce between institutions. My heart went out to them but they were fucking terrifying to be around.
Absolutely nothing in comparison with what men get up to though.
The head of that women’s prison got some flak one time because they hired some entertainers in there for a special occasion, sort of male strippers but only mildly raunchy. When people went predictably bananas about it being inappropriate and how the women are there to be punished, he basically said Listen, these women have had shit lives, nearly every one of them has been the victim of far more crimes than they’ve committed by a long, long straw and they deserve a bit of happiness in their lives even if it’s only for fifty minutes!

5128gap · 13/02/2026 18:16

ThejoyofNC · 13/02/2026 16:44

Maybe we should fill the women's prisons with men then? Seeing as they're just sat there empty.

If we emptied women's prisons of the women who aren't in there for violent crimes, they'd only be at 30% occupancy, so plenty of space.

Enterthewolves · 13/02/2026 18:16

CharlieEffie · 13/02/2026 17:15

Its 98% rapes actually. And this is those prosecuted. So those who feel able to come forward. Statistically men who are assaulted by women are less likely to report due to feelings of shame etc.

Also if these werent "female" crimes the statistics would be 100% of these crimes committed by men. To state that women are in prison for "lesser crimes" is ridiculous and untrue

No it’s accurate - 69% of women in prison committed a non-violent crime 43% of men in prison committed a non violent offence and men form 95% of the prison population

Cookingdoesntgettougher · 13/02/2026 18:16

what you are saying is correct about the statistics and the sex of violent offenders being overwhelmingly male. It needs to be addressed by society at government level and primarily by men.

Is the reason for the thread that maybe for a a few days the sex of a perpetrator was wrongly reported in Canada? It is now clear that the person was biologically born a man and was some way through the process of transition. Frankly I don’t care about the mistake corrected quickly.

I do care about why there were multiple calls to the police at the place he lived. Also want to know what the involvement of mental health professionals was (or maybe should have been.)
This Guardian article includes the wrong sex using her but also

““Police had attended that residence on multiple occasions over the past several years dealing with concerns of mental health with respect to our suspect,” McDonald said. On different occasions the suspect had been apprehended under the country’s mental health act for assessment and follow-up, he added.
McDonald also said that at least one of the interactions with police related to weapons. “Police have attended that residence in the past, approximately a couple of years ago, where firearms were seized under the criminal code,” he said. “At a later point in time, the lawful owner of those firearms petitioned for those firearms to be returned and they were.”
The suspect had a firearms licence that had expired in 2024 and did not have any firearms registered in her name, he said.

Police visited home of Canada school shooting suspect multiple times over mental health concerns

Canadian authorities seized firearms from the residence approximately two years ago but later returned them

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/12/police-visited-home-of-tumbler-ridge-suspect-multiple-times-over-mental-health-concerns

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 18:17

Men in caring professions: I wouldn't send very young kids to a nursery with a male staff member.
I wouldn't hire a manny for very young kids.
I wouldn't hire a male nurse for my mum if she had dementia.

MikeRafone · 13/02/2026 18:17

Females are more likely than men to be prosecuted for less severe, non-indictable offences.

heathspeedwell · 13/02/2026 18:17

The Ministry of Justice figures show that around 3% of women in prison have committed sex crimes, compared to around 15% of men and 62% of transwomen.

Sex matters.

"Almost two thirds of transgender prisoners who identify as female are convicted sex offenders, new data has revealed.
Out of the 245 transwomen inmates who are legally recognised as male, a total of 151, or 62 per cent, had committed at least one sexual offence."

That's from the Telegraph in Dec 24. The figures by now may be even higher for transwomen.

(Edited to remove link)

nietzscheanvibe · 13/02/2026 18:17

EquinoxQueen · 13/02/2026 17:06

Assuming the first three points are facts (no reason the think otherwise). What is the point of the final paragraph?

in what context are you suggesting these crimes are being recorded as female based when they should be male based?

as others have said if 90% of violent crime is committed by men the other 10% is committed by not men. Are you suggesting that the other 10% should also be attributed to men even if it was committed by a female? Or is this a trans thread and I am totally missing it!?!?

Transwomen are, in fact, MEN, is, I think, the point! A crime committed by a 'transwoman' should never be recorded as having been committed by a woman because he is a man.

DeftWasp · 13/02/2026 18:18

dadtoateen · 13/02/2026 18:00

If we are doing this….

women rape, women shoot, women commit violent crime…..

as much as men? Nope but they do 👍

They don't rape, not in British law anyway, a woman cannot be convicted of rape as it is defined as requiring the insertion of a penis. They can commit sexual assault, and it carries the same penalty.

Women rarely shoot, in American criminal history there are a good number of females who shot the victim, but they are dwarfed by men in that category.

In the annals of UK crime the only name that comes to mind is Ruth Ellis, part of the reason her case was so unique is she committed pre-meditated murder in a fashion almost always used my men.

Female criminals at the highly unpleasant end are far, far rarer than males - and where they are, many, for example Myra Hindley, Rose West, Maxine Carr et al tend to be a mans accomplice. They clearly have a dangerous psychology, but the question is, would they have actually crossed the line into crime on their own?

Enterthewolves · 13/02/2026 18:19

YouHaveAnArse · 13/02/2026 18:04

Is this an anti-men thread or an anti-trans thread? Just so we're all clear.

I want to know whether we're using this info as a justification to not allow men to work in caring professions or not to allow trans women to pee in the same toilets this time round. For clarity, you understand. Cheers.

Why is it anti men to be honest about offending patterns? The patriarchy (and the capitalist structures that support it) are bad for men and women.

Elektra1 · 13/02/2026 18:19

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

Bit of an odd beginning to a thread. Context?

RancidRuby · 13/02/2026 18:20

dadtoateen · 13/02/2026 18:00

If we are doing this….

women rape, women shoot, women commit violent crime…..

as much as men? Nope but they do 👍

Women do all of the above in what proportion to men? That’s the point, isn’t it? That men overwhelmingly commit the vast majority of violent and sexual crime. It’s not just a little bit more committed by men, it’s over 90% more. That’s the problem.

Lilactimes · 13/02/2026 18:22

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 18:09

Its a yougov and statista poll (which I have not heard of so cannot vouch for accuracy).

Theres nothing "obvious" about a vote for Reform requiring that you don't understand facts, statistics or evidence. That's just your assumption and you know what they say happens to people who assume....

What facts statistics and evidence do you assume that you are required to have an inability to understand, as a Reform voter?

To start with their economic policies are unaffordable and clearly can not be reconciled with the OBR so immediately we would be in a financial pickle similar to after Liz Truss and Reform would have to back down.

second Nigel Farage has earned more from outside parliamentary interests than any other serving MP - 980k since being voted in. He rarely attends PMs questions.
his closeness to Trump is worrying for so many reasons but especially since Trumps disrespect to NATO and our armies.

So yes, @Pineneedlesincarpet I would say men and women who are blindly believing Reform promises have not a modicum of ability to understand the evidence before their eyes .

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 18:22

MikeRafone · 13/02/2026 17:58

It sometimes seems that some people wish to minimise the acts of violence by women, just to prove their point

what point?

The point that men are the main perpetrators of violent crime.
Those who have mentioned Arthur Labinjo, Star Hobson, and others who were murdered by women are quickly corrected by the mantra "yes but they are the minoriy" as if they dont matter as much as the victims of male violence

The13thFairy · 13/02/2026 18:24

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 13/02/2026 16:46

Hold up now, do you not know the difference between a presumption and an assumption?

Here it is

To assume is to come to a conclusion with zero evidence, usually on the basis of bias or prejudice.

To presume is to come to a conclusion on the basis of factual evidence that indicates the conclusion is the the most probable.

So you must mean presume, not assume.

I knew they were different but similar-ish ~ thanks for the definitions.