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Let me spell this out very clearly for the hard of thinking

360 replies

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:34

Men commit 99% of all rapes and sexual assaults.

Men (and young men) commit 95-98% of school shootings.

Men commit 90% of all violent crime in the UK.

These are not female crimes, and should never, ever be reported - or recorded - as such. It can safely be assumed in any of the above circumstances that a male person was the perpetrator.

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DeftWasp · 13/02/2026 17:38

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:42

Yes they do, honestly please stop with the gaslighting. Men rape, men shoot, men commit violent crime.

I'm a man, also an armchair criminologist, yes you are correct, there has always been a higher number of male criminals than female. And male criminals vastly outnumber female in certain categories or methods of crime.

But I'm curious as to why you are making this point, which everyone with even a cursory interest in crime and its causes has known pretty much forever?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 13/02/2026 17:38

Only ten per cent of the entire prison population is female.

Of these women, only ten per cent have been convicted of violent crimes.

safetyfreak · 13/02/2026 17:38

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:33

I don't think OP's post is perfectly written, but I guess she is frustrated- as am I- by the immense level of NAMALTING on a largely women's site.
Every time a horrific crime is committed- Epstein Files, the nursery worker abuse, BC shooting- a flood of posters will rush forth to say how nice their Nigel is.
I bet no one on DadsNet is rushing forth to say how nice their Nigella is!

Edited

LOL, this is so true! Men would never dare to defend us like we do for them. We can be our worse enemies.

Plasticdreams · 13/02/2026 17:38

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:45

Women don’t commit violent crime, on the whole. Women are in prison for lesser crimes.

I’ve clearly failed to explain this in simple enough terms. Still.

You’re wasting your time. They probably vote reform too as they also don’t seem to be able to understand statistics, facts and evidence.

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 17:39

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:33

I don't think OP's post is perfectly written, but I guess she is frustrated- as am I- by the immense level of NAMALTING on a largely women's site.
Every time a horrific crime is committed- Epstein Files, the nursery worker abuse, BC shooting- a flood of posters will rush forth to say how nice their Nigel is.
I bet no one on DadsNet is rushing forth to say how nice their Nigella is!

Edited

Quite.
I love my husband and our sons to death. My grandad was one of the best, most honourable men I've ever known. My brother in law is a thoroughly decent chap...
None of that means the truth isnt "not all men but almost always men"
Having genuinely great men in my life doesn't make me want to deny the truth of male violence.

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:39

DeftWasp · 13/02/2026 17:38

I'm a man, also an armchair criminologist, yes you are correct, there has always been a higher number of male criminals than female. And male criminals vastly outnumber female in certain categories or methods of crime.

But I'm curious as to why you are making this point, which everyone with even a cursory interest in crime and its causes has known pretty much forever?

Edited

Posters on this very thread have claimed women are just as violent.

SpecialAgentMaggieBell · 13/02/2026 17:39

TallulahBetty · 13/02/2026 16:35

Crumb of context for the poor, m'lud?

This made me laugh. m'lud 😂

trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 13/02/2026 17:43

Women occasionally commit these crimes - but at a way lower rate to point it is new worthy as so unusal.

Women usually have very different patterns of behavior with crime - different crimes and motivations- and having accurate stats helps us understand what's driving the behavior and how to prevent going forward.

Also accuracy helps keep the general population safer and non accuracy breeds distrust in media and news outlets.

What tipped me off was the many news reports coyness around sex language of latest perpetrator rather then the balance of probablity of the sex of the perpetrator.

MrThorpeHazell · 13/02/2026 17:44

I am sorry, but I do not see the point of your post?

It is possible, but amazingly rare, for a woman to be prosecuted for rape.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

Woman found guilty of towpath rape

Teenager punched victim and held her down in gang attack

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/mar/17/sarahhall

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 17:45

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 17:27

But you can only commit the legal definition of rape if you have a penis. So 100% of rapes are committed by men not 98%. What's the other 2%?

In the UK a woman can and has been convicted of rape as a joint enterprise

Scotland has a special section to allow a female with cosmetic alterations to be charged as if she were male and had a penis.

springawakeningss · 13/02/2026 17:45

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 16:45

Women don’t commit violent crime, on the whole. Women are in prison for lesser crimes.

I’ve clearly failed to explain this in simple enough terms. Still.

Remember Arthur labinjo-hughes? His dad's stepmum is in prison for killing him. Oh and his mum is in prison for stabbing her boyfriend to death.
Baby star hobsons was killed by her mums girlfriend.. just off the top of my head. You're talking shite

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/02/2026 17:46

LandOfFruitAndNut · 13/02/2026 16:46

I hear what you say but have zero clue why you are saying it

Yeah this. Surely you're preaching to the choir on MN?

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:46

springawakeningss · 13/02/2026 17:45

Remember Arthur labinjo-hughes? His dad's stepmum is in prison for killing him. Oh and his mum is in prison for stabbing her boyfriend to death.
Baby star hobsons was killed by her mums girlfriend.. just off the top of my head. You're talking shite

'On the whole' is what you are missing. Nobody is saying no woman ever commits a violent crime. They are saying the vast majority are committed by men. Do you have any stats to counter that?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 13/02/2026 17:47

Plasticdreams · 13/02/2026 17:38

You’re wasting your time. They probably vote reform too as they also don’t seem to be able to understand statistics, facts and evidence.

A recent poll suggest that 30% of men and 22% of women intend to vote Reform.

Are you saying that 30% of men and 22% of women don't "understand statistics, facts and evidence"? Where is your evidence for that statistic?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/02/2026 17:47

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 16:49

Yes, but my husband's lovely!
Also, a nice man fixed my car when it broke down.
Ooh and women are so bitchy! I hate my women co-workers.

Have I got all the usual responses?

Myra Hindley and Rose West!

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 17:48

springawakeningss · 13/02/2026 17:45

Remember Arthur labinjo-hughes? His dad's stepmum is in prison for killing him. Oh and his mum is in prison for stabbing her boyfriend to death.
Baby star hobsons was killed by her mums girlfriend.. just off the top of my head. You're talking shite

Talking shite that the vast majority of sexual and extremely violent crimes are committed by men?

Are you sure? Are you sure thats not statistically accurate?

TheMorgenmuffel · 13/02/2026 17:49

SomedayIllBeSaturdayNight · 13/02/2026 17:46

Yeah this. Surely you're preaching to the choir on MN?

You reckon?

Cheese55 · 13/02/2026 17:50

DeftWasp · 13/02/2026 17:38

I'm a man, also an armchair criminologist, yes you are correct, there has always been a higher number of male criminals than female. And male criminals vastly outnumber female in certain categories or methods of crime.

But I'm curious as to why you are making this point, which everyone with even a cursory interest in crime and its causes has known pretty much forever?

Edited

Because men who rape women are now calling themselves women and thus recorded as a crime by a female.
The recent school shooter was described as a woman initially thus recorded as a crime by a female.
The point she is making is that these are not women as it is mostly men who commit these crimes.

AnSolas · 13/02/2026 17:51

whereisitnow · 13/02/2026 17:18

Yes we most if us realise that. But “The hard of thinking?” You’re rude.

😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Stick around there will be some along soon who will do
• Not All Men Are Like That
• My male family and friends are 100% safe
• Look at all these women (who can be individually named on a small bullet list)
🍿

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 17:54

Im not quite getting the point of this post. Nobody is disputing that men commit the majority of violent crimes. We dont need lecturing by Nanny.
Women can and do commit violent crimes but whenever someone points that out, there comes a barrage of "yes but....."
It sometimes seems that some people wish to minimise the acts of violence by women, just to prove their point 😡

MikeRafone · 13/02/2026 17:55

male prisoners make up approximately 96% of the prison population in England and Wales, with numbers exceeding 84,000

3,500–3,600 women are in prison in England and Wales

It seems the problem with crime is male

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 17:57

AIBU is an interesting place! The discussion has been robust, as expected. A couple of clarifications:

  1. I posted this in response to this week’s school shooting, where the perpetrator was initially presumed female by reports. My immediate presumption was that it would be a man or young man.
  2. Why was it reported this way, when we know that such crimes are not committed by women and girls?
  3. Might we now see a backlash against crimes committed by men being wrongly attributed to women?
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MikeRafone · 13/02/2026 17:58

It sometimes seems that some people wish to minimise the acts of violence by women, just to prove their point

what point?

RichardOnslowRoper · 13/02/2026 17:58

Dollymylove · 13/02/2026 17:54

Im not quite getting the point of this post. Nobody is disputing that men commit the majority of violent crimes. We dont need lecturing by Nanny.
Women can and do commit violent crimes but whenever someone points that out, there comes a barrage of "yes but....."
It sometimes seems that some people wish to minimise the acts of violence by women, just to prove their point 😡

Lol at anyone minimising violence by women:
when every man in the Epstein files has got off free
the rape conviction rate is 2%
a woman is killed by a man every 3 days in the UK.

But we are minimising violence by women? Fuck that.

KillTheTurkey · 13/02/2026 17:59

Re: preaching to the choir. AIBU isn’t ’the choir’, it’s a disparate bunch, all of whom have different perspectives. Corbyn and Farage preach to the choir, I’m more of an opinion-canvasser.

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