To think the way MN lets anti trans extremists hijack a tragedy is pretty despicable

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I’ve read several threads full of hate filled anti trans ideology diatribes with zero thoughts for the victims, Canadians upset asking for some empathy and making it clear they as a nation just need to grieve, anti trans hate speech….

Jumping on a human tragedy to push your extremist agenda whilst MN just sits back and lets it happen on multiple threads is as low as you can get.

One wonders how low MN is going to sink. It’s such an unpleasant place now. I guess all HQ cares about now is getting a good price in the sell off.

Makes no difference how long you’ve been here. It’s a valid point - if you’re not happy, you’re free to leave.

Ah so it’s NOT about the victims of these horrendous actions? It’s about ‘making trans look bad”?

Is it as bad as starting a thread about the "hate" rather than the victims?

We all know the anti trans bullies would sweep in and take over any threads about victims.

The point is common decency means the victims is all anybody should be thinking about not glee that it’s a great opportunity to push extremist ideology.

And also, several Canadians have clearly said they do want to discuss this issue, in one of the few places they can. Who are you to arbitrarily decide which Canadians should be listened to?

So bullies get to take over and push out people who have been here from the beginning.

The extremist ideology of reality?

Who is pushing anyone out? You don’t get to control what threads are started or what is posted on them. The end.

I can call out vile behaviour without being told to leave.

This has nothing to do with ‘trans rights’.

We are not anti-trans ‘bullies’. We believe that women and children are at risk from male perpetrators of violence, and how these male criminals identify makes no difference to their criminal profile. We simply do not accept male crimes as our crimes, and would like them reported as such.

I think starting goady threads to throw around personal abuse at other posters is “vile behaviour”. And this is a TAAT.

She didn’t tell you to leave, she just pointed out the fact that if you don’t like the site any more, you can. It’s not up to you to control how other people post.

The vote isn’t with you, either. 78/22 YABU edited because I stupidly put the wrong one

How about this; the victims wouldn’t be dead if BOYS didn’t get their heads filled with the absurd notion that they can become girls or more ridiculous yet BELIEVE they would ever be accepted as such.
Yes, Canadians want to discuss this ridiculous ideology. Believing you’re born in the wrong body IS mentally ill.

Extremist?

It has to be said that pointing out the obvious is not bullying ... and if it was, exactly how do you think we got to this point?

Oh, yes, because the trans rights extreme activists bullied and threatened people, silenced them and threatened them with rape, violence and murder.

As others have pointed out, your post is all about the poor trans, and very little about the victims here.

Care to address this point OP?

And Canada has basically banned any discussion about it. Or any mental health support.

@Shedmistress YES and we want to discuss it, Amy Hamm case going to the Supreme Court. Hopefully that opens the door.

When is that?

Lets hope so. Amy is incredible to just keep going.

@Ereshkigalangcleg no date spotted with my recent google.

Exactly. The rights issue for women is that we are expected to welcome mentally unstable, hair trigger tempered violent and resentful men (a proportion of “trans women”) into the specific spaces where we are most vulnerable.

And as you say this was not a female crime, and yes it does matter.

Agree OP. In the last twenty years this has become a very different place but then so has society in general.

That will be because Mumsnetters and the general public have become aware of the enormous harms caused by gender ideology, particularly to women and children.