Trans- gender dysphoria- mental illness?

[TheBlueKoala]

There are so many young people suffering with MH problems. They are trying to find an identity and nowadays when gender is à la carte it seems epidemic.

Looking at the small percentage of transgender people and high prolific crimes something does tell me that there seems to be a correlation between transgender and mental illness. Which makes me believe that it's really a question of gender dysphoria as in identity dysphoria in general. Ofcourse there are exceptions but I think these recent cases should be taken into consideration. What are we doing to our children telling them that they can choose gender as in a restaurant menu? I think it's harmful and noone below 18 should be allowed to change whatsoever- they can call themselves human- as we all are.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/11/canada-school-shooting-tumbler-ridge-british-columbia/

https://abcnews.com/US/teen-sentenced-life-prison-2019-school-shooting/story?id=71949051

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/as-officials-searched-for-charlie-kirks-shooter-suspect-confessed-to-his-partner-prosecutor-says

https://derechadiario.com.ar/us/argentina/transsexual-schizophrenic-far-left-murderer-young-swedish-woman-after-attempting-to-rape-girl

You've encountered many many more than you will ever know.

See I'm not convinced of this. Particularly trans identifying men.

If this is true, where are the examples of men in the public eye that pass as women? Because I genuinely can't think of one.

ah.. Keating.

Isn't Seagulls telling the poster that they have encountered more 'terfs' than they will ever know?

Which is highly likely. Because the majority of the public hold similar opinions about female single sex provisions as those labelled 'vile terfs.' And the research into whether people feel free to express those opinions has shown that those labelled 'vile terfs' will not give others their full or honest opinion for fear of the repercussions.

I was referring to terfs 🙂
We are everywhere
I have acquaintances that have no idea at all. I can't mention it around them because they have been personally involved in the "cancellation" of a public figure.

I don't really want to be doxxed for my legally held belief. So I quietly plug way in the background contributing to fundraisers for people like the Darlington nurses etc.

There's a hell of a lot of us.
We've been using your bathrooms for years 😆

Cross posted 🙂
That's exactly it 🙂

Oh sorry, I completely misunderstood 😳

"We've been using your bathrooms for years 😆"

Indeed we have!

I don’t mean to cause offence, so this will be my final comment on this - but even considering suicide is a mental health crisis. Mentally well people don’t kill themselves.

I’m almost 100% certain if everyone in my life started referring to me by a male name and he/him, suicide still wouldn’t cross my mind.

Yes surely suicide in itself is the result of mental health illness regardless of contributory factors.

Sympathy to anyone who has lost anyone to suicide but it is never as simple as someone wouldn't use their desired pronouns.

I agree gender dysphoria is a form of MI.
It's similar in some ways to body dysmorphia, anorexia, people who get addicted to steroids and getting more and more 'big'.

You're seeing your body in a way that isn't true. It's in your mind that it is/should be a certain way.

Like those people that think their leg isn't supposed to be there and deliberately have it cut off.

I think it is weird to think we are called 'terfs' for saying men can of course wear dresses and tights but they aren't women, I'd even advise any of them with lipstick shades if they asked for tips .

It is crazy that stating the obvious labels us 'haterz'.

I fully agree.

Oh I said there were 2 of 9 mass school shootings perpetrated by trans students over the last 5 years, but it turns out there was another one in 2025 that wasn't on the wikipedia list (perhaps because although classed as a school shooting it took place off site at a church). If you count that one then that's 3/10 so 30%. That is quite high if you believe there is no correlation with trans identity and violence.

Sadly I think that's not entirely true.

The messy head may be why they first fell into the belief that their mind is somehow "transgender", but the online communities and extremist culture they then find themselves part of absolutely messes them up further.

Just look at the PPs calling anyone who quite rationally questions the belief in "men who are male on the outside but really women on the inside because of something in their heads" vile and accusing them of being motivated not by the honest observation that what is being claimed is nonsensical, sexist and harmful to everyone include trans people, but by some sort of dumb irrational animal hatred of trans people themselves.

If that is what young trans people are telling each other is happening "out there", no wonder they are becoming embattled, isolated and paranoid.

Calling people terfs or indeed cis.. is more evidence of mental lack of health. Trying to grab shared reality and distort it. Sad.

Exactly this.

Of course it's a mental illness thinking you're not the sex you're born. It's completely crazy and society has a lot to answer for indulging this insanity.

Yes I agree it's a mental illness. If body dysmorphia is a mental illness then so is being transgender.

This from a journal that actually talks about it being declassified as a mental illness and saying it's not about choice or following fads:

'.......recent studies comparing transgender and cisgender persons show differences in the cerebral networks involved in own body perception in the context of self (Manzouri and Savic 2019; Nota et al. 2017), and in the patterns of brain connectivity that might affect one’s sense of body congruence (Moody et al. 2021). If proven, a biological aetiology would destigmatize transgender behaviour.'

I then googled 'do people with body dysmorphia have differences in the cerebral networks involved in own body perception in the context of self' and google said:

'Yes, individuals with Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) exhibit significant differences in brain structure, function, and connectivity within networks responsible for processing visual information, emotions, and self-representation.'

So if body dysmorphia is a mental illness then surely so must be being transgender.

Until fairly recently gender dysphoria was recognised as a form of body dismorphia and a mental illness, campaigners got it removed and reclassified which was a massive mistake and failure by the authors of the dsm5

Indeed. And it is well known that it can be harmful to attribute suicide to any one particular cause.

Professor Appleby has repeatedly warned against not just the inaccuracy but the risks of suggesting that a person is at risk of suicide just because the rest of the world won’t bend to their ideas about pronouns and gender identities.

This, totally!!!

There are some terrifying yet odd views expressed in this thread! Small skinny boys become girls because they don't fit in with male stereotypes? One of my sons is shortish and very skinny but I have to say he's never suggested he would fit in better as a girl. He wants to go out with them - not become one of them. If this were true most male jockeys would have sought to become women years ago.

My husband and his brother were both sent off as young boys to fattening up camps which failed to have any effect whatsoever on their naturally thin frames but there seems to be no suggestion that they might then have thought they were girls rather than scrawny boys.

I narrowly escaped the same attempts at fattening up as my mother steadfastly refused to agree to the doctor's suggestion send me off to be fattened up given that she came from a naturally lean family herself. I did grow up with cowboy curtains though as my tomboyish mother had dearly wished for a son rather than a daughter and saw no reason to adjust her plans when she produced a daughter instead. I have to say that when I was pregnant people told me I was so feminine that they struggled to imagine me with sons. Obviously the cowboy curtains had no lasting effects. And my tomboyish mother was very very attractive in appearance as well. She collected more wedding proposals from very presentable men that anybody else I ever knew.

What’s your point?

Which is your personal experience - ie anecdata. So was my post - my personal experience of a couple of TiMs in academia who were small skinny boys and then small skinny men and had suffered so badly at school because they were "weedy" that they chose to identify out of it. At no point did I say that all small skinny men would choose a trans identity. Your family do not have the monopoly on small skinny men.

There’s discussion in the epstein files about creating gender confusion to destabilise societal health. Apparently its part of the Frankist agenda.

So your partner is a woman. You can't change your sex. It's impossible