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Trans- gender dysphoria- mental illness?

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TheBlueKoala · 11/02/2026 21:06

There are so many young people suffering with MH problems. They are trying to find an identity and nowadays when gender is à la carte it seems epidemic.

Looking at the small percentage of transgender people and high prolific crimes something does tell me that there seems to be a correlation between transgender and mental illness. Which makes me believe that it's really a question of gender dysphoria as in identity dysphoria in general. Ofcourse there are exceptions but I think these recent cases should be taken into consideration. What are we doing to our children telling them that they can choose gender as in a restaurant menu? I think it's harmful and noone below 18 should be allowed to change whatsoever- they can call themselves human- as we all are.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/02/11/canada-school-shooting-tumbler-ridge-british-columbia/

https://abcnews.com/US/teen-sentenced-life-prison-2019-school-shooting/story?id=71949051

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/as-officials-searched-for-charlie-kirks-shooter-suspect-confessed-to-his-partner-prosecutor-says

https://derechadiario.com.ar/us/argentina/transsexual-schizophrenic-far-left-murderer-young-swedish-woman-after-attempting-to-rape-girl

Teen sentenced to life in prison for May 2019 school shooting

A teen who opened fire in a suburban Denver STEM school last year was sentenced to life in prison.

https://abcnews.com/US/teen-sentenced-life-prison-2019-school-shooting/story?id=71949051

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 22:30

whilst youth suicides are always horrific, the solution isn’t to say “We must give young people their way always just in case they kill themselves” in place of proper mental health help

Leafstamp · 11/02/2026 22:31

Supersimkin7 · 11/02/2026 22:29

True trans is real and rare.

Some people really are born in the wrong sex - see endless egs in history - but nothing like the numbers who say they are now.

True trans feeling isn’t linked to:

gender eg I like pink so must be female
mental illness
perceived solution to current life problems (although you feel much happier & relieved after trans-ing)
fetish

Its not much to do with sexuality, funnily enough.

How does someone come to be “born in the wrong sex”? That’s absurd.

Which historical examples do you mean?

DownhillTeaTray · 11/02/2026 22:32

BlackCatDiscoClub · 11/02/2026 22:11

This article might help to put things in perspective, it says that there are less mass shootings by trans people as a percentage of total trans population than there are by cis women and cis men: ca.news.yahoo.com/tumbler-ridge-shooter-trans-female-203824142.html

Not as of today.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 22:33

Supersimkin7 · 11/02/2026 22:29

True trans is real and rare.

Some people really are born in the wrong sex - see endless egs in history - but nothing like the numbers who say they are now.

True trans feeling isn’t linked to:

gender eg I like pink so must be female
mental illness
perceived solution to current life problems (although you feel much happier & relieved after trans-ing)
fetish

Its not much to do with sexuality, funnily enough.

Nobody is born on the wrong sex

What happens is that society tells them that “gender” exists and effectively there is a “proper” way to be male or female. That is extremely regressive and damaging if they don’t fit in that box.

Gender is the problem.

And whilst you say it’s toning to do with stereotypes, how come trans identifying males always want to be parodies of female stereotypes?

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 22:34

I think a lack of confidence and struggle with a changing body - things that are ENTIRELY NORMAL for young people - are labelled as dysphoria/trans nonsense, rather than just what it is - sometimes puberty is shit, but it will end one day

Supersimkin7 · 11/02/2026 22:35

I meant true transwomen don’t dress up as hos or manga teens. And aren’t mentally ill.

Oof, let me think about the real ones.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/02/2026 22:36

PurpleLovecats · 11/02/2026 21:38

I have a trans niece and two trans adult friends plus the best friend of one of my children is also trans.

They suffered mentally far more before they transitioned. Seeing how much happier they are now is wonderful.

What did they all do in order to transition?

Surely none of them believe they've changed sex.

Dentalqueen · 11/02/2026 22:38

You could just say men have some sort of inherent mental illness full stop given the amount of violent crimes against women so many of them commit. It’s interesting because when women transition to men, and they take the testosterone that makes them physically stronger and more masculine, they still don’t seem to be so drawn to violence as biological males.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 22:38

Supersimkin7 · 11/02/2026 22:35

I meant true transwomen don’t dress up as hos or manga teens. And aren’t mentally ill.

Oof, let me think about the real ones.

What’s a hos? And what’s a true trans woman? What makes them women?

Scramado · 11/02/2026 22:41

I think there are a lot of autistic girls who look at all the girly stereotypes and think they’re a pile of crap, and in the past were tomboys and happy and grow up to be lesbians, but now they decide they’re trans. The autistic girls I know who have transitioned are very happy with it though and are much more confident, it’s just a shame they had to take irreversible steps to find that happiness when in the past they’re probably be just as happy being tomboy lesbians.

Male to female is much more commonly to do with sexual kinks.

What was remarkable about this story was it was described as being that a girl had shot these people up which was shocking. But they you find it’s actually just another boy and it all makes sense again.

CurryTonite · 11/02/2026 22:45

There was a time you’d be banned from Mumsnet for seating the obvious.

ScarlettSarah · 11/02/2026 22:45

I think it can be a mental illness, yes. It is a form of delusion, to believe something about yourself that is objectively untrue.

I can see that it creates profound mental distress for some people, and they should be helped and treated with kindness, though I don't think that should involve affirming the delusion.

Those weird men who do it for fetish reasons can just fuck off, though.

Helleofabore · 11/02/2026 22:46

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 11/02/2026 22:36

What did they all do in order to transition?

Surely none of them believe they've changed sex.

Sadly, from what I have seen recently there are male people out there who most definitely believe that they are female people.

They believe their purely subjective reality is the universal material reality. They also double down and refuse to believe that there are female people who can correctly identify their sex.

fashionqueen0123 · 11/02/2026 22:48

Helleofabore · 11/02/2026 22:46

Sadly, from what I have seen recently there are male people out there who most definitely believe that they are female people.

They believe their purely subjective reality is the universal material reality. They also double down and refuse to believe that there are female people who can correctly identify their sex.

Like the ones saying they have PMT and periods.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 22:51

fashionqueen0123 · 11/02/2026 22:48

Like the ones saying they have PMT and periods.

Women cannot have anything for themselves can they.

And we can’t say anything to the menz because heaven forfend their feelings are hurt

Heyhoherewego23 · 11/02/2026 22:52

The thing is you can’t be born the wrong sex, you are the sex you are. That’s unequivocally basic science (Inter sex a different issue). You can feel like a woman, that’s ok, you can dress the way you like without prejudice, also great. I don’t want anyone to be attacked or made to feel unwelcome. I will fight for your rights to be who you want to be.

I won’t, on the other hand, be ok with a man with a penis in a single sex changing room with my daughter because he self identifies. Likewise compete in sports with a testosterone bias. I get you love your sport, that’s awesome. Unfortunately as you were born male you can’t compete against biological women. Please continue to enjoy the sport in a non competitive environment. Sometimes we can’t always do things we want. I’d love to be a marathon runner unfortunately my biology doesn’t agree with this…

Scramado · 11/02/2026 22:57

I think it was Dr Upton who described biological sex as a nebulous dog whistle. And that’s a doctor!

We need to get back on a footing of scientific reality.

fartoomuchtoblerone · 11/02/2026 23:02

These are not examples of mental illness, but of extreme violence, probably accompanied by mental illness. I suspect that has nothing to do with trans identities and everything to do with young angry males, whichever way they present.

Underthinker · 11/02/2026 23:03

BlackCatDiscoClub · 11/02/2026 22:22

I don't think its surprising. As it says in the article, these stats have become important because the US government have been stating that trans people are inherently dangerous. So the moment it's revealed that the shooter is trans, journalists will have this data to hand.

It depends what you count and how. The vast majority of US shootings in general are gang and drug related.

If you only count school mass (4+ fatalities) shootings in the US and Canada, if I have got this right from Wikipedia, it looks like there have only been 9 in the last 5 years and 2 of those have been trans shooters. So 22%.

But obviously school shootings are rare, and one incident skews the data strongly

I think it's more useful to look widely and see how a mix of aggressive ideology, a sense of persecution, and poor mental health within the trans community may be contributing to a wider pattern of violent crime of all types.

StickySeason · 11/02/2026 23:03

PurpleLovecats · 11/02/2026 21:38

I have a trans niece and two trans adult friends plus the best friend of one of my children is also trans.

They suffered mentally far more before they transitioned. Seeing how much happier they are now is wonderful.

Do you not find it odd that you know so many people who are trans? It’s become a TikTok inspired contagion.

Also, you believing they’re happy is not a sign that they’re not suffering from a mental illness or delusion. Anorexic people are happy starving themselves. Sufferers of BIID are happy after they’ve disabled themselves. Happiness doesn’t make trans an actual thing. It’s something that is made up of mentally ill people, “damaged” people and those with sexual fetishes. The first two groups need psychological support and understanding. The third group, however, can fuck off.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/02/2026 23:12

Supersimkin7 · 11/02/2026 22:29

True trans is real and rare.

Some people really are born in the wrong sex - see endless egs in history - but nothing like the numbers who say they are now.

True trans feeling isn’t linked to:

gender eg I like pink so must be female
mental illness
perceived solution to current life problems (although you feel much happier & relieved after trans-ing)
fetish

Its not much to do with sexuality, funnily enough.

I'm sorry but being "born in the wrong body" is meaningless. It's like sayong someone can be born the wrong height or with the wrong eye colour.

What I think you mean is throughout history there have been people who believed they were or should have been the opposite sex, due to some cultural or subconscious personal symbolism or metaphor they associate with that sex.

It's very much the same as there have always been people who believe they can sense the dead or communicate with gods. It's all about the way humans think and impose our own connections and meanings onto our environment.

PurpleLovecats · 11/02/2026 23:16

TigTails · 11/02/2026 22:28

A sane and mentally well “trans” person simply does not exist.

Bullshit

PoisonCrystal · 11/02/2026 23:16

BlackCatDiscoClub · 11/02/2026 22:11

This article might help to put things in perspective, it says that there are less mass shootings by trans people as a percentage of total trans population than there are by cis women and cis men: ca.news.yahoo.com/tumbler-ridge-shooter-trans-female-203824142.html

Thanks for sharing. Did you look at the underlying source data from that article? I was shocked to see 35 mass shootings have already happened in the US in 2026! It seems that the definition of “mass shootings” includes robberies, gangland shootings, etc.

it would be helpful if your article had drilled into the details and investigated whether there were common patterns across the different types of shooting, It would be more useful than some practically meaningless high level numbers with no definition - but, hey, that’s what passes for journalism these days. If I have time this week, I would do the research myself.

PurpleLovecats · 11/02/2026 23:19

StickySeason · 11/02/2026 23:03

Do you not find it odd that you know so many people who are trans? It’s become a TikTok inspired contagion.

Also, you believing they’re happy is not a sign that they’re not suffering from a mental illness or delusion. Anorexic people are happy starving themselves. Sufferers of BIID are happy after they’ve disabled themselves. Happiness doesn’t make trans an actual thing. It’s something that is made up of mentally ill people, “damaged” people and those with sexual fetishes. The first two groups need psychological support and understanding. The third group, however, can fuck off.

No I don’t find it strange, why would I?

I also know people who are black, white, Asian.

Autistic, adhd.

Straight, bi, gay.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 11/02/2026 23:42

PurpleLovecats · 11/02/2026 23:19

No I don’t find it strange, why would I?

I also know people who are black, white, Asian.

Autistic, adhd.

Straight, bi, gay.

Those are not people who are deluded into thinking they’re the opposite sex. Being a parody of the opposite sex is nothing like being Asian.

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