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EleanorReally · 12/02/2026 07:02

devastating to the families

W0rnout · 12/02/2026 07:06

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I see the MN anti trans hate speech activists are crawling out of the woodwork as per usual ,jumping on tragedy to further their cause. Just vile.

ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 07:10

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 06:57

The gender critical movement appears to be more of a cult to me

Yesterday you likened women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting, and now you're calling it cultish to acknowledge objective reality, so with all due respect, why should anyone intelligent or decent listen to anything you have to say?

ChickenCooper · Yesterday 10:42
It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.
The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.
The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:11

@Ereshkigalangcleg what is your definition of a woman? Please educate me

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 07:20

@ChickenCooper mouthing that expressing the view that men can't be women is the same as murdering children so I think we can safely disregard the rest of your views.

W0rnout · 12/02/2026 07:21

One wonders if some posters ever stop to consider that the bile, vitriol , hate speech and lack of understanding that the transgender community face on threads such as this escalate MH difficulties and tragedy.

borntobequiet · 12/02/2026 07:31

I welcome people like @ChickenCooper onto threads like this because they so clearly demonstrate both the falsity and the stupidity of transgenderists.

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 07:33

I have looked at loads of pages of this though not the full thread. Almost every post I read is about the reporting of this person as "female in a dress" and how these are not women's crimes, moving on to more general posts about definitions of women, transgender people as mentally ill, in a cult etc.

Are there any posts that focus on the tragedy and the victims?

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:46

ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 07:10

Yesterday you likened women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting, and now you're calling it cultish to acknowledge objective reality, so with all due respect, why should anyone intelligent or decent listen to anything you have to say?

ChickenCooper · Yesterday 10:42
It is tragic that so many people died at the hands of a hate filled shooter.
The amount of hate against transwomen being expressed on this thread is equally reprehensible.
The statistics do not support the claims made here that transgender people are over represented in school shooting perpetrators.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:50

Jimmy5bellies · 12/02/2026 07:33

I have looked at loads of pages of this though not the full thread. Almost every post I read is about the reporting of this person as "female in a dress" and how these are not women's crimes, moving on to more general posts about definitions of women, transgender people as mentally ill, in a cult etc.

Are there any posts that focus on the tragedy and the victims?

You could just post about the tragedy and the victims yourself, rather than complain about what everyone else is posting about.

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 07:53

W0rnout · 12/02/2026 07:21

One wonders if some posters ever stop to consider that the bile, vitriol , hate speech and lack of understanding that the transgender community face on threads such as this escalate MH difficulties and tragedy.

Transgender individuals have significant mental health issues. Those mental health issues may well be exacerbated by having to accept that others do not share their beliefs. But it is fact that a very significant percentage of people do not share their beliefs. That does not make the views of others hate speech.

It’s akin to a religion - say Scientology. most of us would say that people are free to believe in the great space pirate god if that’s what they want but they cannot expect the rest of society to also believe that he exists or for us to change our behaviours to accommodate other Scientology beliefs or practices. Scientology is a cult. An extremist religion with very rigid practices which are at odds with the way most of society acts and which impinge on the rights of others (particularly women). Scientology hides behind the “friendly” faces of high profile movies stars such as TC whilst preying on the vulnerable for their own ends (generally cash extraction in the case of that particular cult).

Other cults exist. Ones which prey on the vulnerable for their own ends. Ones which insist on their own version of reality which it might be argued is more bizarre than space pirate gods. Ones which go further than Scientology by insisting that everyone must believe what they believe and change their views and behaviours to accommodate them,

This is not the thread for a deep discussion about trans people in general. It’s a shame that the marketing team has descended. The point was a valid point about the way in which this tragedy was reported. The fact remains that innocent people have lost their lives. The person who did this has severe mental health issues. We cannot keep denying that people who are transgender have a very serious mental health issue (albeit that of course nobody is saying that all transgender people go out and commit acts of appalling violence)

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:53

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:46

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

Yeah you did when you used the words 'equally reprehensible'.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:55

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:11

@Ereshkigalangcleg what is your definition of a woman? Please educate me

That would be, if Eresh doesn't mind me interjecting 'Adult, human, female'.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:11

@Ereshkigalangcleg what is your definition of a woman? Please educate me

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.

Called it <fistbumps>

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:57

W0rnout · 12/02/2026 07:21

One wonders if some posters ever stop to consider that the bile, vitriol , hate speech and lack of understanding that the transgender community face on threads such as this escalate MH difficulties and tragedy.

I might have guessed it would be our fault.

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:56

A woman is an adult member of the female sex in human beings. It’s the definition, not my personal one. Now you.

I agree with your definition

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2026 07:57

Shedmistress · 12/02/2026 07:57

Called it <fistbumps>

Backatcha 🤜

Helleofabore · 12/02/2026 08:01

Is this where we need to then further define ‘female’ to the established definition in human terms of being a human that has a body formed around the production of large gametes regardless of whether that body has, is or will produce those gametes?

Because there are some people who are male yet describe themselves as female.

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:03

According to the Guardian, the gunman is the victim in all of this.

At least seven dead after school shooting in British Columbia
Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:03

According to the Guardian, the gunman is the victim in all of this.

That’s clearly a typo/error though

Chersfrozenface · 12/02/2026 08:05

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

That’s clearly a typo/error though

It's a Freudian slip, is what it is

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:06

Chersfrozenface · 12/02/2026 08:05

It's a Freudian slip, is what it is

Well possibly but I suspect it’s time pressured writing and careless editing/checking

ThatCyanCat · 12/02/2026 08:07

ChickenCooper · 12/02/2026 07:46

@ThatCyanCat you are incorrect in this post. I did not at any point say that 'women using the word "man" for a male person as equivalent to a massive shooting.'

I was calling out the trans hate on this thread in response to posters stating that trans people are mentally unstable and using words like cosplayers, nuthouse, madness, altar of stupidity, insane etc.

Even if that were indeed what you were referring to (and it clearly isn't, as you also think it's hateful to have a word for female people that doesn't include male people and vice versa, it still wouldn't be in any way equivalent to a mass shooting.

But this is what you lot have to do. Your entire ideology is based on the lie that men can be women. There is not one single honest, true or decent assertion you can make when such an absolute lie is what the whole thing rests on. Hence your tedious, worn attempts at time wasting now as you go riiiiiiight back to "well what is a woman" as if that hasn't been answered extensively, as if you aren't here precisely because you know it's mainly women and as if you don't know which of your parents is your mother.

Lies, deflection, absurdity, false equivalence and accusation...it's all you've got because you're resting on a lie. You'll notice that we have several GC people on here who did point out the inaccuracy of that particular claim and were not attacked for it either. GC people have dissent, and honesty. Whereas every single person who says men can be women is a liar. And no, changing the definition of words doesn't change reality. It's just Newspeak, another form of lying and silencing

SpaceRaccoon · 12/02/2026 08:08

Dannexe · 12/02/2026 08:04

That’s clearly a typo/error though

I think the writer made the mistake because in their head, trans=victim, always.

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