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Uncompromising holiday disagreement

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MalePoster · 06/02/2026 19:15

I would like some advice and opinions please, either way - I understand this is generally a place for women to post but I’m struggling to find somewhere that men can ask for similar advice.

Some context and background - I have been with my wife for 15 years, married for nearly 9. We have 3 children, 6 yo, 3 yo and 9 months. For as long as I can remember I have covered all of our bills and outgoings (at least since we started having children) and any income my wife has had over that period has been seen as disposable income, paying for holidays etc.. she is self employed so unfortunately this decreases a little when she is on maternity, such as in the past 9 months.. luckily I have been in position financially to be able to provide a decent lifestyle for us as a family, and I do not see being the breadwinner or the sole earner as a problem, however I do see very little gratitude to this fact from my wife as any time I mention money she thinks I’m holding it against her that I am the sole provider financially. I feel like in our lives, I do not make many demands as a husband, and I’m always more than happy to go on the holidays my wife wants and do activities that she wants us to do. She has been keen on buying a campervan for quite a few years and I’ve even come round to the idea and said I would put my Dads inheritance towards buying the campervan (Dad sadly passed last year).

I have recently booked a luxurious 12 day holiday for us as a family to go Dubai. My wife has been keen on going away for a while and I was just trying to time it right with school and work etc, so booked quite last minute. She had said Dubai would be good, and picked a nice resort hotel after we looked together, which I agreed would be a nice break for us as a family and hence why I booked it.

My personal hobby in life is golf, I play to a decent level and like playing nice courses when I can, without it being too unreasonable and inconsiderate to our family life.

I had mentioned a few times that if we went back to Dubai (went 4 years ago), I would like to play golf once during our trip.. this was usually met with the “we’ll see” “depends on timing” etc, like I am asking for permission. Well after I had booked I said that I would quite like to play golf, and it just so happened that our trip overlaps by 4 days with one of our close friend couples (with kids too) from home (I knew we were going to overlap before I booked but coincidence that they happened to be going at similar time).

I have made the suggestion to my wife that on one of the afternoons that we overlap with our friends, me and the other bloke go and play golf, leaving the wives and children all together somewhere to enjoy each others company etc.. well this has been met with a firm no from my wife, with absolutely no compromise or consideration towards my request, which has actually really annoyed me. She has made it clear that she wants the whole 12 day holiday to be family time together and thinks it’s unreasonable for me to go and play golf with my friend on one afternoon, even if it means she gets to spend time with her friend (who was one of her bridesmaids so a pretty close friend).

I have said that I’m more than happy for her to go and do something for her in return, like a spa morning or similar, but she says she doesn’t want to do that and just wants to spend the whole time as a family. Whilst I fully appreciate that, I do not think it makes me a bad person for wanting to do something for me on our holiday, especially considering all of the background to our relationship that I presented above.

What should I do? I really don’t want to back down for the principle of not being in a controlling relationship, and because I really do not think my request is unreasonable or inconsiderate to her or our children when considering the whole situation/scenario at play.

Thanks in advance

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Ellie1015 · 08/02/2026 16:18

MalePoster · 07/02/2026 14:14

Seems a little ridiculous to take our argument from offline to online but as my wife has decided to put her pov in to “swing the vote” her way, let me clarify some of the points from her post;

  1. Yes we had a week long holiday last year where I played 3 rounds of golf with friends. I wanted to take my golf friends on a trip but my wife was against me doing that so I suggested that all of the families tag along. We did not take a family holiday and turn it into a golf holiday, we took what was originally planned as a golf trip and tried to combine the 2 because I wasn’t allowed a separate trip for golf…
  2. We were always looking at going to Dubai for this trip from my OP. Canaries was floated as a cheaper alternative if we couldn’t work Dubai out. The dates moved slightly so that I could book reward flights using avios points and a companion voucher, as there were no reward flights available on other dates. This has meant we also now get to fly home business class, something we’ve not done before, but also something my wife has now moaned about because I’ve used more points (there weren’t any economy reward flights available).
  3. I am not making her do anything in return. She doesn’t have to meet up with her friend if I go off, it was merely a suggestion. I am happy for her to have half a day off for herself doing whatever she’d like, but as you can see she doesn’t want to do that.
  4. the “putting it off until future” part doesn’t sit well with me because there’s no guarantee of future.

Why did you organise a golf holiday for a week when you have such young children? Then acting like a hero cos families tagged along and only "3 rounds" ie best part of 3 days playing golf.

Ditch the golf. Prioritise your very young family.

olderstillnotwiser · 08/02/2026 16:42

Copperfieldcurry · 08/02/2026 15:15

The wife’s posts are still here under username DisneyBaby

Heres the first post

DisneyBaby · Yesterday 06:48
I am the original posters wife.
Here is my take on this and I feel there are a few key elements missing.
Firstly, this is not the first time that golf has effected a holiday. Our last proper holiday was to Cornwall last August, a holiday we take every year on our own and spend quality time together, and my DH, the OP, wanted to invite his golfer friends and their wives and kids. They played 3 times in a week and it felt like the whole week was planned around their golf arrangements. It completely ruined our normal family holiday, and I don’t think the other wives enjoyed the trip either tbh as we all generally feel second best to the golf. So I am done with golf on holiday.
Our friends are not saying at the same resort so DH is suggesting we go to their hotel and I spend the day there with the 3 children (don’t even know if this would be allowed) and then get ready for dinner there ready to have dinner altogether when they get back. Therefore meaning I need to pack a bag and get ready somewhere that’s not our own hotel room with our things, again with 3 young kids. Which just seems like hard work. I’m happy to meet with them and do something fun altogether or dinner, just not keen on having 5 young kids with us two women, hers are 4 and 1 so between us, we would have 6, 4, 3, 1 and 0 aged kids.
If I chose to stay at our hotel instead of meeting with my friend, I will have to look after 3 young kids by the pool by myself which I don’t feel is safe. I will spend the whole day saying ‘stay close, not too far’ etc to my kids who will just want to play with no restrictions. If one of them needs to toilet, we will all have to go coz I can’t leave any on their own etc. And I don’t even know how I would navigate a buffet restaurant for breakfast, lunch or dinner with a baby in one arm and 4 plates in the other for us all.
As a few people have mentioned. I often feel burnt out and overwhelmed with all the housework and taxying the kids round at home and I look forward to family holidays as a way to enjoy the kids and our family without having all the added stress of housework and rushing around. I’m honestly not bothered about time for me because my favourite thing to do is genuinely spend time with my children and together as a family but there is a big difference between spending time with the kids on my own vs spending time with them with my husband there.
I’m not saying no to golf forever. I’m just saying not right now. When our son is older, they can go off and play together and I’ll stay with our daughters. Or when our kids are grown, we can do numerous couples and friends holidays and I’ll happily have some me time on a lounger then and do a puzzle book. But right now we’re in our young family phase in life, I need my husband to be present, and I want to soak up every single moment of family time on holiday together.
To all those who think I was being unreasonable. Do you think this the same after I have explained my views?

Yes. I do. How on earth can you begrudge him a round of golf? I think it's great that he has interests: loads of parents love a break from their family - especially when they're young. And loads of others - like you - want to be with the kids 100% of the time. We're all different and I think it could easily be interpreted as lacking in empathy/sympathy that you begrudge your husband time off playing golf on a world class course. We used to take my son to Centre Parcs and I was beyond excited that he was going to be off at kids' clubs. A friend of mine was horrified when I said that and said (I can still remember this more than 20 years later!) that she goes on holiday to SPEND TIME with their children, not farm them out to kids clubs. Well good on her... but I wanted a break and maybe your husband does to? I'm flabbergasted that it's become a big thing for you guys. I think you should flounce about a bit, sigh and sulk if it's totally necessary for you but let him get on with it (although your sulking will, no doubt, spoil the experience for him a bit)

olderstillnotwiser · 08/02/2026 16:43

olderstillnotwiser · 08/02/2026 16:42

Yes. I do. How on earth can you begrudge him a round of golf? I think it's great that he has interests: loads of parents love a break from their family - especially when they're young. And loads of others - like you - want to be with the kids 100% of the time. We're all different and I think it could easily be interpreted as lacking in empathy/sympathy that you begrudge your husband time off playing golf on a world class course. We used to take my son to Centre Parcs and I was beyond excited that he was going to be off at kids' clubs. A friend of mine was horrified when I said that and said (I can still remember this more than 20 years later!) that she goes on holiday to SPEND TIME with their children, not farm them out to kids clubs. Well good on her... but I wanted a break and maybe your husband does to? I'm flabbergasted that it's become a big thing for you guys. I think you should flounce about a bit, sigh and sulk if it's totally necessary for you but let him get on with it (although your sulking will, no doubt, spoil the experience for him a bit)

*too. Not to.

Blondiebeachbabe · 08/02/2026 17:02

Copperfieldcurry · 08/02/2026 15:15

The wife’s posts are still here under username DisneyBaby

Heres the first post

DisneyBaby · Yesterday 06:48
I am the original posters wife.
Here is my take on this and I feel there are a few key elements missing.
Firstly, this is not the first time that golf has effected a holiday. Our last proper holiday was to Cornwall last August, a holiday we take every year on our own and spend quality time together, and my DH, the OP, wanted to invite his golfer friends and their wives and kids. They played 3 times in a week and it felt like the whole week was planned around their golf arrangements. It completely ruined our normal family holiday, and I don’t think the other wives enjoyed the trip either tbh as we all generally feel second best to the golf. So I am done with golf on holiday.
Our friends are not saying at the same resort so DH is suggesting we go to their hotel and I spend the day there with the 3 children (don’t even know if this would be allowed) and then get ready for dinner there ready to have dinner altogether when they get back. Therefore meaning I need to pack a bag and get ready somewhere that’s not our own hotel room with our things, again with 3 young kids. Which just seems like hard work. I’m happy to meet with them and do something fun altogether or dinner, just not keen on having 5 young kids with us two women, hers are 4 and 1 so between us, we would have 6, 4, 3, 1 and 0 aged kids.
If I chose to stay at our hotel instead of meeting with my friend, I will have to look after 3 young kids by the pool by myself which I don’t feel is safe. I will spend the whole day saying ‘stay close, not too far’ etc to my kids who will just want to play with no restrictions. If one of them needs to toilet, we will all have to go coz I can’t leave any on their own etc. And I don’t even know how I would navigate a buffet restaurant for breakfast, lunch or dinner with a baby in one arm and 4 plates in the other for us all.
As a few people have mentioned. I often feel burnt out and overwhelmed with all the housework and taxying the kids round at home and I look forward to family holidays as a way to enjoy the kids and our family without having all the added stress of housework and rushing around. I’m honestly not bothered about time for me because my favourite thing to do is genuinely spend time with my children and together as a family but there is a big difference between spending time with the kids on my own vs spending time with them with my husband there.
I’m not saying no to golf forever. I’m just saying not right now. When our son is older, they can go off and play together and I’ll stay with our daughters. Or when our kids are grown, we can do numerous couples and friends holidays and I’ll happily have some me time on a lounger then and do a puzzle book. But right now we’re in our young family phase in life, I need my husband to be present, and I want to soak up every single moment of family time on holiday together.
To all those who think I was being unreasonable. Do you think this the same after I have explained my views?

Yeah, this does change my opinion actually. Stuff the golf.

Marieb19 · 08/02/2026 17:27

I originally voted Yanbu but I would like to change my vote as i think you may have been economical with the truth. It's a shame I can't see your wife's post, so just have to try to interpret your critique of it. If I've got this right, you have previously taken a weeks family holiday and played golf with your friends for half of it. You also say "you wanted to take your friends on a golf holiday" (were you intending to pay for them?) which didn't happen. So you have arranged a family holiday instead, where you can still play golf with your friends.
I don't think there is anying wrong with someone taking an afternoon on holiday to participate in a hobby. However, it appears you have organised and orchestrated this holiday to satisfy your golf needs and your wife and children's needs and desires are irrelevant. I think your wife doubts this will be one round of golf (as do i) and the idea of setting her up with a play date is insulting.

Lifealwaysgetsbetter · 08/02/2026 17:33

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I don't think it's helpful to paste this here. They are still together 5 years later so clearly things were sorted to some extent.

Lifealwaysgetsbetter · 08/02/2026 18:26

TakeALookAtTheseSwatches · 08/02/2026 17:48

I don't think it's helpful to paste this here. They are still together 5 years later so clearly things were sorted to some extent.

there were a lot more recent ones about debt and gambling issues.. I think this is not a healthy relationship that folk are commenting on tbh. It’s just another scenario and she was warned not to stay just so she could have more kids.

Olive123456 · 08/02/2026 19:07

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 19:44

You need to repost this as a woman and say you want to go away for a half day spa day on holiday but your husband says no. Then you’ll get real answers.

You’re a man posting on mumsnet so no matter what you say or do, you’ll get posters picking you apart and making things up to tell you off for or posters assuming you’re just a selfish shit who doesn’t appreciate your wife.

Are you his mum?

safetychange · 08/02/2026 19:43

I find this a little sad because it makes me happy when I know DH is happy. I plan our holidays but always try to find restaurants and activities I know he will enjoy when we are away. thinking of him is the way I show him after 20 years of marriage that I care for him. I would try communicate to your wife how much you're looking forward to a bit of golf.

I certainly wouldn't accept being left to entertain mutual friends for the day on my holiday though !

Icecreamisthebest · 08/02/2026 20:03

@safetychange me too!! But I think that is the problem here. He’s not thinking of her at all. What is she supposed to do with 3 very young kids on her own in Dubai for the day. She can’t take them to the pool, it’s not safe. And he doesn’t seem to care, as long as he gets to play golf. It’s truly sad

safetychange · 08/02/2026 20:11

They don't sound like they struggle financially and throwing money at a problem helps a lot. Pay for a private tour of the desert for the day, go shopping, go explore whatever part of Dubai you like the sound of, a cinema trip, aquarium. I can't imagine there aren't plenty of touristy things you could do for a day with 3 kids. It's one day. I just can't see what the fuss is about. It feels like this may be about something far more than just golf. A relationship therapist is always cheaper than divorce...

TheBlueKoala · 08/02/2026 20:47

@MalePoster @DisneyBaby put kids in kids club at the hotel. Hire a nanny for the day for the baby. Problem solved.

HesseWeisseSchokolade · 08/02/2026 21:00

ThisHazelPombear · 08/02/2026 10:53

My dh mentioned shooting on an upcoming holiday once, didn’t happen. If I had wanted to not see him all day I’d stay at home.

Your poor wife.

Well done breeding silent resentment in him, for the sake of making a point / showing who's boss.

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HesseWeisseSchokolade · 08/02/2026 23:27

Some people think that marriage is about compromises. Others that it's winning at any cost. Clearly you are in the latter category, your husband must be very happy.

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Also getting personal on a poster with whom you disagree is a nasty habit. Reflect on that.

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truffleruffle · 09/02/2026 10:05

Not really getting the negative comments re your terminology (breadwinner). As usual there any peeps who will always find a negative. Compromise makes a marriage work. YANB unreasonable to have a few hours playing golf. It’s a holiday for the whole family so everyone should enjoy.
I think your wife is being selfish.

BloomsburyBelgravia · 09/02/2026 10:25

DisneyBaby · 07/02/2026 06:48

I am the original posters wife.

Here is my take on this and I feel there are a few key elements missing.

Firstly, this is not the first time that golf has effected a holiday. Our last proper holiday was to Cornwall last August, a holiday we take every year on our own and spend quality time together, and my DH, the OP, wanted to invite his golfer friends and their wives and kids. They played 3 times in a week and it felt like the whole week was planned around their golf arrangements. It completely ruined our normal family holiday, and I don’t think the other wives enjoyed the trip either tbh as we all generally feel second best to the golf. So I am done with golf on holiday.

Our friends are not saying at the same resort so DH is suggesting we go to their hotel and I spend the day there with the 3 children (don’t even know if this would be allowed) and then get ready for dinner there ready to have dinner altogether when they get back. Therefore meaning I need to pack a bag and get ready somewhere that’s not our own hotel room with our things, again with 3 young kids. Which just seems like hard work. I’m happy to meet with them and do something fun altogether or dinner, just not keen on having 5 young kids with us two women, hers are 4 and 1 so between us, we would have 6, 4, 3, 1 and 0 aged kids.

If I chose to stay at our hotel instead of meeting with my friend, I will have to look after 3 young kids by the pool by myself which I don’t feel is safe. I will spend the whole day saying ‘stay close, not too far’ etc to my kids who will just want to play with no restrictions. If one of them needs to toilet, we will all have to go coz I can’t leave any on their own etc. And I don’t even know how I would navigate a buffet restaurant for breakfast, lunch or dinner with a baby in one arm and 4 plates in the other for us all.

As a few people have mentioned. I often feel burnt out and overwhelmed with all the housework and taxying the kids round at home and I look forward to family holidays as a way to enjoy the kids and our family without having all the added stress of housework and rushing around. I’m honestly not bothered about time for me because my favourite thing to do is genuinely spend time with my children and together as a family but there is a big difference between spending time with the kids on my own vs spending time with them with my husband there.

I’m not saying no to golf forever. I’m just saying not right now. When our son is older, they can go off and play together and I’ll stay with our daughters. Or when our kids are grown, we can do numerous couples and friends holidays and I’ll happily have some me time on a lounger then and do a puzzle book. But right now we’re in our young family phase in life, I need my husband to be present, and I want to soak up every single moment of family time on holiday together.

To all those who think I was being unreasonable. Do you think this the same after I have explained my views?

No. Yanbu

T1Dmama · 09/02/2026 14:00

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 20:01

I fear this may not be understood unless you are a golfer yourself, but a few of the golf courses in Dubai are world renowned and played on the top world tours, so it’s sort of a unique opportunity / experience.

Well if this is the case I would be telling my wife that on one of the 4 days I will be playing golf for a few hours with my mate … you’re happy to pay for the kids to be in some sort of child care so she can also have the time to herself with her friend… and the other 13 and half days you’ll be in full family mode.
while I think partners have to be considerate of the other partner I could never stop a partner playing his hobby on holiday if it had (like you say) a world renowned course…. It’s a bit like going to Paris and not seeing the Eiffel Tower!
I also think an adult needs permission for a few hours alone during a 2 week holiday!… as long as you’re happy to return that favour, which you’ve already said you are !
She might want to spend 24/7 with you, but she needs to respect that you want just a few hours doing something important to u

SaySomethingMan · 09/02/2026 19:55

T1Dmama · 09/02/2026 14:00

Well if this is the case I would be telling my wife that on one of the 4 days I will be playing golf for a few hours with my mate … you’re happy to pay for the kids to be in some sort of child care so she can also have the time to herself with her friend… and the other 13 and half days you’ll be in full family mode.
while I think partners have to be considerate of the other partner I could never stop a partner playing his hobby on holiday if it had (like you say) a world renowned course…. It’s a bit like going to Paris and not seeing the Eiffel Tower!
I also think an adult needs permission for a few hours alone during a 2 week holiday!… as long as you’re happy to return that favour, which you’ve already said you are !
She might want to spend 24/7 with you, but she needs to respect that you want just a few hours doing something important to u

Well said

BustyLaRoux · 10/02/2026 07:45

SaySomethingMan · 09/02/2026 19:55

Well said

Have you read the wife’s posts?