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Uncompromising holiday disagreement

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MalePoster · 06/02/2026 19:15

I would like some advice and opinions please, either way - I understand this is generally a place for women to post but I’m struggling to find somewhere that men can ask for similar advice.

Some context and background - I have been with my wife for 15 years, married for nearly 9. We have 3 children, 6 yo, 3 yo and 9 months. For as long as I can remember I have covered all of our bills and outgoings (at least since we started having children) and any income my wife has had over that period has been seen as disposable income, paying for holidays etc.. she is self employed so unfortunately this decreases a little when she is on maternity, such as in the past 9 months.. luckily I have been in position financially to be able to provide a decent lifestyle for us as a family, and I do not see being the breadwinner or the sole earner as a problem, however I do see very little gratitude to this fact from my wife as any time I mention money she thinks I’m holding it against her that I am the sole provider financially. I feel like in our lives, I do not make many demands as a husband, and I’m always more than happy to go on the holidays my wife wants and do activities that she wants us to do. She has been keen on buying a campervan for quite a few years and I’ve even come round to the idea and said I would put my Dads inheritance towards buying the campervan (Dad sadly passed last year).

I have recently booked a luxurious 12 day holiday for us as a family to go Dubai. My wife has been keen on going away for a while and I was just trying to time it right with school and work etc, so booked quite last minute. She had said Dubai would be good, and picked a nice resort hotel after we looked together, which I agreed would be a nice break for us as a family and hence why I booked it.

My personal hobby in life is golf, I play to a decent level and like playing nice courses when I can, without it being too unreasonable and inconsiderate to our family life.

I had mentioned a few times that if we went back to Dubai (went 4 years ago), I would like to play golf once during our trip.. this was usually met with the “we’ll see” “depends on timing” etc, like I am asking for permission. Well after I had booked I said that I would quite like to play golf, and it just so happened that our trip overlaps by 4 days with one of our close friend couples (with kids too) from home (I knew we were going to overlap before I booked but coincidence that they happened to be going at similar time).

I have made the suggestion to my wife that on one of the afternoons that we overlap with our friends, me and the other bloke go and play golf, leaving the wives and children all together somewhere to enjoy each others company etc.. well this has been met with a firm no from my wife, with absolutely no compromise or consideration towards my request, which has actually really annoyed me. She has made it clear that she wants the whole 12 day holiday to be family time together and thinks it’s unreasonable for me to go and play golf with my friend on one afternoon, even if it means she gets to spend time with her friend (who was one of her bridesmaids so a pretty close friend).

I have said that I’m more than happy for her to go and do something for her in return, like a spa morning or similar, but she says she doesn’t want to do that and just wants to spend the whole time as a family. Whilst I fully appreciate that, I do not think it makes me a bad person for wanting to do something for me on our holiday, especially considering all of the background to our relationship that I presented above.

What should I do? I really don’t want to back down for the principle of not being in a controlling relationship, and because I really do not think my request is unreasonable or inconsiderate to her or our children when considering the whole situation/scenario at play.

Thanks in advance

OP posts:
rockingroller · 06/02/2026 20:06

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 20:01

I fear this may not be understood unless you are a golfer yourself, but a few of the golf courses in Dubai are world renowned and played on the top world tours, so it’s sort of a unique opportunity / experience.

Why do you think your wife is so keen to stop you doing it ? There must be a reason.

Beamur · 06/02/2026 20:06

Leaving out all your comments about money (although I think you should actually look more critically at yourself there) I don't think it's unreasonable to have half a day doing something else on your holiday.

DaisyChain505 · 06/02/2026 20:07

Your request isn’t unreasonable but from her reaction I have to ask, do you do your fair share of parenting in every day life?

Your wife may earn less than you but she still works, if she’s also doing the lions share of the running of the house and looking after the kids and life admin etc I can see why she has an issue here.

lessglittermoremud · 06/02/2026 20:07

If your post is taken at face value, you’re not being unreasonable.
Our financial situation is similar in that my DH earns far more than I do, ‘my’ wages go on extras, the children’s hobbies etc and ‘his’ money pays the household bills.
If we were going on holiday in the circumstances you describe then I certainly wouldn’t begrudge you an afternoon or two playing golf, just as I don’t mind when my DH goes off cycling for a few hours when we are away.
You’re the only one who knows if you constantly mention being the main earner so ‘deserve’ the time off, or if you always play golf and leave your wife to most of the childcare.
It sounds like there is more going here then the golf afternoons, there must be a reason why your wife has point blank refused what seems to be a reasonable request?
If you are usually present in mind as well as body when home, do your fair share with the children and don’t hold money like a weapon then it seems very odd.

LucyLoo1972 · 06/02/2026 20:08

Swaytheboat · 06/02/2026 19:22

I don't think you're unreasonable about an afternoon playing golf if she can also have an afternoon in the spa or whatever, but the whole prelude about who pays for what is unreasonable. I can totally see why your wife gets pissed off when you mention money, because it does come across like you feel you're doing way more than her rather than her contributing not only a salary but the reduction in childcare costs by her having the kids. So I think this is the big issue. Why haven't you just pooled finances? I don't get why there's this "she paid he paid" nonsense at this stage in your relationship.

his wife sounds like a total princess. I know there needs to be a balance becasue I ahd a terrible breakdwon becasue my husabnd didnt let me spend much money at all and made me feel guilty about even essential things and I let that happen. but she sounds a nightmare

Fupoffyagrasshole · 06/02/2026 20:08

shes Being unreasonable

we always take days to ourselves on holidays -

last holiday in France I randomly saw a friend of mines band was playing in Paris and I got guest list and took a train in last minute and had an amazing random night away from my family

I’ve had husband arrange to go clubbing with friends on a city break while I had the kids

we Both have gone and taken turns doing water sports etc

it’s meant to be a holiday and surely that means a break for everyone at diff times

Tiswa · 06/02/2026 20:09

There is something about how you deliver the request I suspect rather than the request itself

if you present it like you present it to your wife lik you have here than I can see why she has said no

talk to her figure out how to deliver it better

Newmumatlast · 06/02/2026 20:09

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 19:28

I feel no entitlement whatsoever about being the “breadwinner”, we pool all money into one pot and it’s free to use however either sees fit. I just thought it was important to mention because if roles were reversed financially, and I was being demanding about playing golf, then maybe I’d be viewed as a little more unreasonable or inconsiderate.. but maybe I’m wide of the mark there

As the breadwinner myself (female) I think you're better off leaving that out of the discussion. Ultimately its about the holiday being for the family and whilst that means lots of time together, I also think it means some compromise. I dont see anything wrong, in the context of a 12 day holiday, of having 1 day where you get a break, 1 day where your wife gets a break, and 1 day where it is complete kid choice. That still leaves 9 days- even with 2 of those being travel days it is a week of days where its group decision.

Stompythedinosaur · 06/02/2026 20:10

So, you've presented us with what I suspect is a slightly slanted narrative.

I wonder if your "enjoy time with friend and kids" looks more like "massively struggle to manage three very young children in an unsafe environment without their familiar things around" to your wife.

I also don't believe for a second that you coincidentally booked the same resort at the your golfing buddy at the same time, in a location you wanted to golf. I wonder if this manipulation is part of what is making your wife unhappy?

I also wonder how feasible it really is for her to have time off from childcare. Is the baby still breastfeeding? Can you honestly, hand on heart, say your wife will be able to relax secure in the knowledge your care will be as good as hers while she's away? Do you regularly do solo childcare to build up your skills and her confidence?

Because what to you might seem like "I get an afternoon off, she gets a morning off" might seem like "I get time off and I offer you time off while we both know you can't take it.".

ScribblingPixie · 06/02/2026 20:10

I agree that on face value, you're not being unreasonable. Yet... the financial info is irrelevant, but you've put it at the heart of the question. Your wife does earn money and pays for holidays (etc - whatever that means) yet you say you are the sole earner. You say 'being a mum' is what she brings to the table as if it's just a physical state with no work attached. I wonder what her issues are as she sounds cheesed off about things.

Happytaytos · 06/02/2026 20:10

Give her 5 hours off on the holiday to do what she likes.

Make sure you look after the kids to a good standard. Don't leave a load of shit for her to tidy up and don't get her to sort everything before she goes.

SandAndSea · 06/02/2026 20:12

How many kids will the other couple be bringing? What will looking after all the kids with one other adult be like? Is your baby sleeping though the night and if not, who gets up?

Hayley1256 · 06/02/2026 20:13

I think she's been a little unfair. If my DP wanted to do something whilst we were on holiday, I wouldn't stop him and I know he wouldn't stop me from doing something either. I would explain to your wife that it means a lot to you to be able to play x course and as it's in Dubai it's your chance to do it. You understand your asking a lot as it's a family holiday but she can also look for something she would like to do whilst you have the kids.

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 20:13

There seems to be a lot of comments about me mentioning the financial situation, so to clarify, I felt like I had to mention that because if I didn't bring money to the table the comments would be “what do you provide/bring to the family/relationship”.. to be clear I believe I am a very present dad and primarily a family man who tries to do his fair share of parenting, although of course my wife is a fantastic mum and will always far outweigh me in that regard.

OP posts:
rockingroller · 06/02/2026 20:14

SargeMarge · 06/02/2026 20:01

I’m a mum with 2 kids. I’ve gone off in my own for half a day on every holiday I’ve had with my kids, for spa treatments or a sporting activity they were too young for or even just alone time in the sauna and steam room.

Every holiday. Not all of us are martyrs. He isn’t doing anything wrong and he’s only getting comments like these because of his sex.

Edited

Would you insist on doing this if their dad was a SAHP and you had plenty of me time the rest of the year, and he asked you to spend the whole of the time away with the family and wasn't interested in having a half day without the children as compensation for you going off on your own?
Something is going on here and I suspect OP is not hearing whatever his wife is telling him.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 06/02/2026 20:14

How present are you on a daily basis. How hands on are you with the children. Assuming you work 5 days and spend 1 golfing how do you spend the other day. What does your wife do to get time for herself. I'm biased as I used to be married to a guy who took one day a week for his hobby, I was welcome to take time for myself but only if I arranged childcare, I ended up bitter and resentful because he just didn't prioritize the family, he didn't seem to like spending time with us.

PinkCrab · 06/02/2026 20:15

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 19:49

Once a week at most.. during the winter it’s been once every 3 weeks. And it’s usually at a convenient-ish time (no time is 100% convenient). I never go away for golf or without family at all. It’s time to myself of course, but I very rarely deny my wife time to herself.

Playing golf is a minimum 4-6 hour activity door to door, longer if you travel further, play a full round, stay for a pint after etc. doing this once a week is significant. Do you give her a block of 4-6 hours once per week to herself where you do all of the childcare and associated housework?

I'm not surprised by her view. It sounds unreasonable until you realise how often you’re away from home for extended periods to engage in your hobby.

Golf as a hobby is hugely interfering in family life. Give it a rest on holiday so she knows she has a break on holiday by getting to share the mental load the whole time, not dreading a period where she’s by herself abroad.

JLou08 · 06/02/2026 20:15

How much quality time do you usually spend together as a family? It sounds like having family time is really important to your DW. Most would snap up the chance of a spa day, unless they are just desperate for family time.

DoIdriveaVauxhallZafira · 06/02/2026 20:15

provide a decent lifestyle for us as a family, and I do not see being the breadwinner or the sole earner as a problem, however I do see very little gratitude to this fact from my wife

Wanting to spend 1 morning playing golf is not unreasonable but it sounds like there's a lot more going on here...

Your wife doesn't owe you gratitude for your salary.

The holiday overlaps with friends - was this agreed with her beforehand? I can't blame her for not wanting to spend time with friends when away. With 3 young children, I'm sure she wants to feel like a respected partner in the marriage as opposed to someone who should feel obligated for pretty baubles you throw her way.

I'm sure you love your wife but it sounds as though she doesn't feel valued or respected.

StrawberryJamAndRaspberryPie · 06/02/2026 20:15

Honestly… why are you asking us? We don’t know your wife or why she doesn’t want to do that. You’ll have to talk it through with her. On the surface of it you golfing isn’t big deal but we don’t know your marriage.

Sausagepickle123 · 06/02/2026 20:17

My husband is a golf nut. He plays golf on holiday. He works hard, he needs a break. I also work hard and get my breaks too - it is very much my turn your turn round here (although we are not petty enough to count turns). He is off on a golf weekend at the moment, I have a girls weekend coming up.
He earns 3x what I earn but does not call himself the "breadwinner". He knows that would be foolish because he understands that I do the domestic load as well as work.
Maybe your wife doesn't want to have to deal with all 3 by herself on holiday. I wouldnt.... Maybe one day she and the other mum go off by themselves and leave you and the other dad with all the kids.

DaisyChain505 · 06/02/2026 20:17

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 20:13

There seems to be a lot of comments about me mentioning the financial situation, so to clarify, I felt like I had to mention that because if I didn't bring money to the table the comments would be “what do you provide/bring to the family/relationship”.. to be clear I believe I am a very present dad and primarily a family man who tries to do his fair share of parenting, although of course my wife is a fantastic mum and will always far outweigh me in that regard.

The focus of how much money you both bring in isn’t really relevant. The amount of hours you both work is a factor though.

If you’re both putting in roughly the same amount of hours into your jobs yet she’s still having to do the majority of house work and childcare etc then YABU.

If she only dow a few hours a week then yes she should be picking up more of the slack with the kids etc.

Howarewealldoing · 06/02/2026 20:17

Strange that you brought up the fact you pay the bills? As that has absolutely nothing to do with if you play golf or not on holiday .

StrawberryJamAndRaspberryPie · 06/02/2026 20:18

MalePoster · 06/02/2026 20:13

There seems to be a lot of comments about me mentioning the financial situation, so to clarify, I felt like I had to mention that because if I didn't bring money to the table the comments would be “what do you provide/bring to the family/relationship”.. to be clear I believe I am a very present dad and primarily a family man who tries to do his fair share of parenting, although of course my wife is a fantastic mum and will always far outweigh me in that regard.

This shows you clearly don’t know Mumsnet. We’re not all going to start asking what you provide or bring to the table. This isn’t TikTok.

DoIdriveaVauxhallZafira · 06/02/2026 20:18

Howarewealldoing · 06/02/2026 20:17

Strange that you brought up the fact you pay the bills? As that has absolutely nothing to do with if you play golf or not on holiday .

Precisely.