Dogs & Aeroplanes

[Keepingthepeace9]

Sorry folks, another thread about dogs & this time the question is do you agree with a recent suggestion the UK becomes similar to countries like France & America where small dogs can travel in the cabin with their owners.

Despite having absolutely nothing against dogs or their owners I can't begin to stress how much I disagree with this for countless reasons. This of course is with the exception of assistance dogs. Are you for or against the idea?
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People already take dogs on planes the world over.

Would you never fly internationally,or on internal flights in Asia or Europe or America then? Because dogs are allowed in cabins there already.

There are very few service dogs. I've seen a hearing dog on a train a couple of times (it wasn't very well trained and got up and came towards me, so I changed carriages). Otherwise I've never been in a confined space with one.

Most people who suffer dog dander allergies are OK as long as they're not directly exposed to the allergen. It's highly unlikely the occasional assistance dog would cause an issue as long as you weren't in the adjoining seats. As far as leaving dog dander on the seat which people can react to the chances of being exposed to it are far less given the probability of ending up in the same seat afterwards.

Another example is if a person opened a packet of peanuts in the front of the plane and a person at the back of the plane had a serious allergy to peanuts it probably wouldn't be a problem. If they were sitting next to the person & directly exposed to the allergen they could die.

Unfortunately if there were dogs in every area of a flight there are people such as asthmatics who could become seriously ill & end up in hospital. Antihistamines don't always work. I hope this helps with the understanding of the subject

Unfortunately if there were dogs in every area of a flight there are people such as asthmatics who could become seriously ill & end up in hospital. Antihistamines don't always work. I thope this helps with the understanding of the subject

Okay - so what about someone with an airborne dairy allergy? Or someone with an airborne pet allergy sat next to someone with pet hair on their clothes? Or someone with an airborne allergy to, I don't know, bananas?

You can't cover for every single eventuality.

I've never seen a dog on a plane but I don't do internal flights in Asia or the US. I did do one internal flight in Europe last year but didn't see a dog, but maybe they aren't allowed on that carrier.

But no, if there was a chance I'd have to sit next to one on a plane, I wouldn't fly.

At least on a train I can get up and sit or stand somewhere else. That isn't so practical on a plane.

They sit in their carriers on the floor by the feet of their owners. There won’t be dander spread around all surfaces on the plane. They aren’t roaming free or sit on their own plane seat.

I'm allergic to dogs, and this could cause me problems, even if the dog was on a previous flight. Plus, imagine if you were stucknon a flight with a non stop barker, or an aggressive dog, or one that messed in the cabin, or where two dogs decided they didn't like each other... the list goes on. No. It's not a good idea.

it has been done, I watched a family on youtube who moved their dacshounds from the UK to Florida. They did it with one stop over as they used a special company that did pet flights.

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Dogs are allowed on planes pretty much the world over though - the fact that you've never seen one is more luck than anything else, I would have thought.

It already happens all over the world.

You'll never know if a dog was on a previous flight to you - service dogs, for example.

You've described it perfectly. Dog dander allergy can and is an airborn issue for many but not all. The difference is people with this allergy can choose to remove themselves from the vicinity of dogs if they are concerned. In an aeroplane you have no choice. Statistics say up to 15-20 percent of people suffer from dog dander allergy. I think this is enough for airlines to consider if it's worth changing the current rules

We can go back to the way it used to be with fags, segregate all the dog owners into the back and seal them off there. Job done.

You've actually totally mis-read my post 😬

Anyone on an airplane could have an airborne allergy - to commonplace things on planes that we would never consider banning (dairy, for example, or bananas) - what makes people with airborne pet allergies any different to people with other airborne allergies?

And what about if you're seated next to someone with, for example, two huskies at home, who is covered in pet hair by default?

I wouldn't have a problem with it tbh. If the dog is in a suitable pet carrier which is securely strapped into a seat next to the owner for flights within the UK, it wouldn't bother me. I rather have a crate in the row in front / behind me than a kicking child, arguing drunk or recliner. The flight would only be a max of 90 mins surely? And I'd guess they would put pets in certain rows that could be avoided if necessary.

Fucking ridiculous.

Unless you are paying for first class where you have one of those little self-contained pods. Can you imagine being in the middle seat of an economy row, where the two people either side have animals with them? And how is a dog supposed to hold its bladder on a 8 hour transatlantic flight?

Gross and entitled.

We're travelling with a cat in a few months (for an unavoidable reason) and I'm glad she'll be coming in the cabin with us.

I am very allergic to cats and would be sneezing, wheezing and eyes swelling unless the airline gave me advance notice to dose up on antihistamines. Which they wouldn't do because of GDPR. Put it in the hold.

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It’s perfectly acceptable in most of the world and people aren’t outraged and grossed out by a small dog sitting inside a carrier by its owner’s feet. My dog isn’t even an adult dog yet but can easily hold hos bladder for 10-11 over night and 6 hours during the day. They won’t pee or poop inside their carrier.

Yet it already happens the world over.

Why should she? She's allowed her cat in the cabin with her.

I think it's a great idea - crated though would be best. Not sure of logistics around toileting whilst waiting pre flight though. Other places manage it though so it must be possible.

It's only on the internet that people seem to get so outraged about things.

Lots of airports have dog toileting areas with fake grass etc.