The most pernicious secret about Reform

[SeriousFaffing]

The results from a YouGov poll in December show quite a large difference between men and women of those who would vote Reform at the beginning of 2026.

This has got me thinking about the split and women’s awareness of Reform.

Agree or not, I’m sure that everyone is aware of the links made between Reform and racism… However, I think that a just as big elephant in the room is what appears as pernicious and deep rooted misogyny… I think that the YouGov poll appears to show that women are subliminally - or very - aware of this fact.

When I think of Reform, I see images of white men chanting “we want our country back”. I think of Farage cosying up to the anti abortionists in the USA (many news articles on this) and I think of Reform’s policies to boost the birth rate.

I wonder about wanting ‘our country back’ being as much about harking back to a time when women were not out at work (taking up jobs) and expecting dinner to be on the table when he comes home. No answering back at home or in the work place. And, you know, ‘Protecting our women’ as though a commodity or object… But only when it suits.

What do you think? Am I unreasonable as a woman to worry about Reform getting into Government?

You are unreasonable - no, as a woman, I am not worried about Reform getting into Government.

You are not being unreasonable - I am worried too.

As has been said many times before, if he gave a shit about trafficking, grooming, rape and sexual assault victims, he wouldn't be big chums with Trump and Nick Candy (in Epstein files) and would be calling for the prosecution of those involved, whatever their political allegiance. He's a grifter. VAWG and safeguarding is just a weapon for him, he uses it to point score. Uses it when it suits his agenda, ignores it when it doesn't. That's not new in politics but it's rarely this transparent.

Actually believing this is incredible. Have you looked at their voting g records? On issues like employment upskirting online reform?
Never mind all the photos and allegiance with tate, trump, Russia etc. And individual, recent tweets...

I am with you. I am more centrist, but the environment is the most important thing to me. For everyone's future
Of course, reform call it "net stupid zero"😡 prats

Sexist dick wad.

@sleepwouldbenice Agree. Wilfully and selectively sticking their heads in the sand.

On that basis, let's just get rid of men altogether.

No, you just misunderstood her point.

Unsurprisingly.

Are you still trying to make my point for me?

No, you just misunderstood mine.

Entirely predictably.

Writing "Are you trying to make my point for me" makes absolutely no sense in the context of what the pp had actually said though. It only makes any sense if you had failed to comprehend her post. Which you obviously did.

Well, if she is trying to make your point for you, it seems that she is failing miserably.😂

Obviously this is going to be how it looks to someone who fails to comprehend my point.

In your entirely predictable view.

You don't have a point. You just have prejudice and assumptions.

How old are you? I used to see the world in black and white as you do, but then I grew up.

Old enough to recognise when someone is lashing out because they don't know what else to say.

Are you making the point that Farage is a misogynist who doesn't give a shit about the victims of VAWG unless it forwards his racist agenda?

Ah, perhaps that's it.

If that's the case, @moderate, then I stand corrected.

The irony!

I’m done here. Arguing with you is starting to feel a bit like bullying a child.

More than anything, I pity you. Reform will come to power and you won’t have a clue why. You’ll think it’s because everyone is either racist or stupid enough to be taken in by racists.

Fare well.

No.

Anyone can simply read up the quote history to understand my point.

Then I am not making your point for you.🤷‍♀️

Yes, you do come across as being a bit of a bully. Luckily enough, I have enough life experience to understand that it comes from a place of insecurity.

As for what happens if and when Reform is elected, you won't need to pity me, as I already have a Plan B lined up. I have no intention of staying and watching the shitshow unfold, but I will feel very sorry for those who are left behind. Not the racists, but definitely the ones stupid enough to be taken in by racists. It will be awful for them when it gradually dawns on them what they've done.

So "done here" @moderate means that you're going to stop posting because yor've realised that your argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny, but you're still going to hang around posting passive aggressive emoji?

Both can be true
Doesn't excuse Farage

You seem to be straying into libel territory as well.

The BBCs lawyers obviously realised that it was a problem to call them ‘far right’ and they clearly had nothing to back it, otherwise they would have refused to apologise and invited a libel suit if he didn’t like it.

Can you provide evidence of your accusations please.