The most pernicious secret about Reform

[SeriousFaffing]

The results from a YouGov poll in December show quite a large difference between men and women of those who would vote Reform at the beginning of 2026.

This has got me thinking about the split and women’s awareness of Reform.

Agree or not, I’m sure that everyone is aware of the links made between Reform and racism… However, I think that a just as big elephant in the room is what appears as pernicious and deep rooted misogyny… I think that the YouGov poll appears to show that women are subliminally - or very - aware of this fact.

When I think of Reform, I see images of white men chanting “we want our country back”. I think of Farage cosying up to the anti abortionists in the USA (many news articles on this) and I think of Reform’s policies to boost the birth rate.

I wonder about wanting ‘our country back’ being as much about harking back to a time when women were not out at work (taking up jobs) and expecting dinner to be on the table when he comes home. No answering back at home or in the work place. And, you know, ‘Protecting our women’ as though a commodity or object… But only when it suits.

What do you think? Am I unreasonable as a woman to worry about Reform getting into Government?

You are unreasonable - no, as a woman, I am not worried about Reform getting into Government.

You are not being unreasonable - I am worried too.

You provide me with the specific policies that in your view make them ‘far right’ and I’ll link to the article about the ‘far right’ libel climbdown.

Fair enough?

For clarity, on rereading the article it turns out it was the BBC forced to apologise and withdraw its ‘far right’ accusations when reporting on the LD conference. Par for the course I guess - the BBC are no longer known for their impartiality or accurate reporting.

The BBC lawyers clearly realised that they had nothing to back their ‘far right’ accusations and they had to retract it.

Maybe you can back your ‘far right’ accusations or are you running the risk of libel too?

Omg - I was rushing because I was in the middle of something and got the names mixed up. A thousand apologies to Stockport and Southport. 🙄

I notice there is no answer to my question, just deflection and accusations.

The owner of Reform UK is a racist, antisemitic traitor.

Is that far-right enough for you? If not, the statements and criminal convictions of his party members should do it.

It's time they admit they are just the Tory party from a couple of years ago now. Surely 90% of them are defectors now?

The "pernicious secret " about Reform is that it grew out of the ridiculous £500 bet that Nigel F made with one of his City mates that he couldn't talk the country into leaving the EU.

Reform are 100% Tory.

Nigel Farage: Ex Conservative Party Member
Richard Tice: Ex Conservative donor
Lee Anderson: Ex Conservative MP
Robert Jenrick: Ex Conservative MP
Suella Braverman: Ex Conservative MP
Andrew Rosindell: Ex Conservative MP
Danny Kruger: Ex Conservative MP
Sarah Pochin: Ex Conservative Councillor and Conservative party candidate

To be fair, your link goes on to say that Bristol police did not identify whether 'those arrested on August 3 were the alleged perpetrators, witnesses or victims' of domestic abuse reports.

In addition, the report does not tell us how many counter-protesters were arrested - the FOI request would also include counter-protesters; 'there were violent clashes between those protesters and police, and also with counter-protesters'

@JustSomeWaferThinHam Yeah, you got the names mixed up because you don’t know the area. If you knew the area, the slip wouldn’t have happened. And if you knew the area, you’d have a semblance of how distasteful it is for you to paste your agenda onto this harrowing event

See 1:25 in

Again, the locals - who were out rebuilding walls and sweeping up the debris caused by these thugs - know what happened. But crack on with your shameful agenda.

@JustSomeWaferThinHam and a reminder of where the thuggery came from 👍 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99v90813j5o.amp

Here's some more information about those arrested and sentenced.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/list-far-right-protesters-jailed-9489456

I suppose we can only draw our own conclusions about whether these people might be the alleged perpetrators, witnesses or victims' of domestic abuse reports.

Misleading title; List of far-right protesters jailed, arrested or wanted by police after Castle Park riot

From a cursory look: Ebrim Jadama, Terrell Morris, Abdinasir Hussein, Mohamed Osman and Jivara Omar don't look or sound like far-right protesters to me.

I suppose we can only draw our own conclusions about whether these people might be the alleged perpetrators, witnesses or victims' of domestic abuse reports

Clearly some of those listed were women and children.

Did you not read up the quote history for the context?

She knows what a woman is.

Right, so your claim that the lib dems had apologised was incorrect. It never happened. Thank you for confirming this.

As for the BBC, it didn't conclude that it was technically incorrect to describe Reform as far right. Rather, it concluded that use of the term was not in line with the BBC's editorial guidelines. Those guidelines include, for example, the avoidance of highly charged political labels which might be considered to be subjective or controversial.

As for Reform being far right? Just listen to their rhetoric. Look at what their candidates, councillors and MPs say, both in person and on social media. Watch their deliberate, calculated attempts to stir up hate. Look at the connections that they have with far right movements in other countries. Look at some of their policies, such as threatening to remove the right to stay in the UK for people who have already been given the right to permanently settle here and have built their lives here on that basis.

That cartoon is a straw man.

Reform voters are fed up with being told that they’re racist for caring about rape gangs.

If the Left keep proving they don’t care about the things the majority care about, the Right will keep gaining.

That’s what happens in a democracy.

All right thinking people care about the damage and corruption done by Rape Gangs. Paedophile circles and powerful, international, sex traffickers.

Most of them will not vote for Reform UK because they are not racist. Or stupid. Or bitter.

Well, I'm not really a big fan of reform but it wasn't white British men that sexually assaulted 1200 German women in one night or have more than half of their demographic stating that homosexuality should be illegal. And fgm/child marriage etc ain't too great either.

Tbf 95% of workplace deaths are male. That's kinda the biggest sacrifice of them all. 99% of women would not be able to hack the job I do in construction.

Way more than 1200 UK women are raped or assaulted every single night in this country.

How will Reform stop this?

Not quite the same as 1200 women being openly assaulted in public, many in front of their powerless husbands. That kind of thing only happens in the middle east usually - arab spring etc.

I've no idea how Reform would stop it. As stated, I'm not a big fan. But events like the one outlined are what are driving people to vote for people like Farage. You could perhaps argue that less asylum seekers would mean less sexual assaults being perpetrated by asylum seekers.

Im ok campaigning for the rights of women and girls. Regardless of the birthplace of the violent, misogynist men who abuse, rape and murder them.

No one with the slightest bit of cop on, would vote Farage for women's rights.

I used to support them when their primary concern was the environment. That is also my primary concern.
Their primary concerns now seem to be Palestine and gender politics.

I do not believe transwomen are women, and I do believe women should keep their single sex provisions.

As a socialist, I am politically homeless.

Are you trying to make my point for me?

How about the other people? Do they sound like far-right protesters?

Those 'children' were 15 and charged with 'throwing metal beer barrels at members of the public', 'throwing metal beer barrels at a police car' and 'violent disorder'. Someone capable of that is as capable of domestic abuse as an older person, as are women.

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Do you think Farage thinks manual labour is a "top job"?

Farage doesn't give a shit about the victims of grooming gangs. He uses them to further his racist agenda. So those supporting him because of grooming gangs are either thick, or racist themselves.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/29/female-survivors-of-grooming-gangs-demand-apology-from-nigel-farage