The most pernicious secret about Reform

[SeriousFaffing]

The results from a YouGov poll in December show quite a large difference between men and women of those who would vote Reform at the beginning of 2026.

This has got me thinking about the split and women’s awareness of Reform.

Agree or not, I’m sure that everyone is aware of the links made between Reform and racism… However, I think that a just as big elephant in the room is what appears as pernicious and deep rooted misogyny… I think that the YouGov poll appears to show that women are subliminally - or very - aware of this fact.

When I think of Reform, I see images of white men chanting “we want our country back”. I think of Farage cosying up to the anti abortionists in the USA (many news articles on this) and I think of Reform’s policies to boost the birth rate.

I wonder about wanting ‘our country back’ being as much about harking back to a time when women were not out at work (taking up jobs) and expecting dinner to be on the table when he comes home. No answering back at home or in the work place. And, you know, ‘Protecting our women’ as though a commodity or object… But only when it suits.

What do you think? Am I unreasonable as a woman to worry about Reform getting into Government?

You are unreasonable - no, as a woman, I am not worried about Reform getting into Government.

You are not being unreasonable - I am worried too.

@Clavinova So, you now claim that you knew Farage wanted to leave the single market, you knew he wanted to stop freedom of movement with the EU but you didn't know he wanted a hard Brexit?

Well no, I suspected he was lying because he contradicted himself repeatedly and what he was saying didn't make logical sense. Just as I think he is lying now because he contradicts himself repeatedly and what he says doesn't make logical sense.
I don't blame people for being taken in by him however, while you seem almost smug that some people were tricked/didn't know which bits of what Farage said were true or what weren't. What I dislike more than people who voted Brexit/vote reform (because they want their lives to be better and believed what someone said) is people who glorify in the dishonesty and political gymnastics. People like Farage.

I suspected he was lying because he contradicted himself repeatedly and what he was saying didn't make logical sense

He may have changed his mind from 2014 to 2015 but I don't think he contradicted himself about leaving the single market in the 9 months or so leading up to the referendum. He was asked a number of times from late 2015 onwards whether he wanted to leave the single market and he answered a definite "yes" e.g.

"I don't want to be part of the European Single Market, I want Britain to leave the European Union, be an independent country and trade with the world," Farage said on the BBC [Feb 2016]

Farage also said earlier in a debate with [Anna] Soubry on Channel 4 News [he] wants the UK to be "independent, self-governing, making our own laws", and not a part of the European Single Market and political union which forbids "us from making our own trade deals".

persephonia
multiple credible allegations of involvement in a child sex abuse scandal

Out of interest, who is reporting that there are multiple credible allegations of Trump being involved in a child sex abuse scandal? CNN for example said;

There’s no public evidence that any of the allegations against Trump contained in the new documents were deemed credible by the FBI

persephonia
I provided an example where he both talked about remaining part of a single market (note that he referred to it as being part of a single market not having access to said market)

Where?

Not forgetting that your link was dated more than a year before the referendum took place in any case. Keir Starmer promised to freeze council tax in 2023 - what happened there?

I feel like it’s either a “racist” party, or one that lets in Literally millions of men from cultures where women are treated like absolute shite. I’d take sexist old dinosaur British men over those who’ve been raised to think women shouldn’t be allowed a vote or even education , any day of the week.

Were Reform associated with those street protests against the man who killed those children? Rudakabana? I was shocked to read that 41% of those 899 men arrested were associated with intimate partner violence! Far right activists were supporting them online, Two out of five.

“Isabella Lowenthal-Isaacs, the policy manager at Women’s Aid, said: “A year on from the terrible Southport attacks on young girls, and as conversation about far-right protests once again starts to appear in the media, it is tempting to treat these events as isolated.
“However, the reality is that these

However acts of violence are part of a wider pattern rooted in the same dynamics that drive domestic abuse and violence against women and girls: control, coercion, and misogyny.”

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

Its the choice between a racist party owned by a racist, misogynist, antisemitic traitor who's done only damage to the UK, and all the other options.