Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

Disabled people, then. Just say disabled people.

Well, what do you think should happen to someone who is not self funding for a care home? Be turfed out on the street?

I worked for the NHS, so I was also paying for everything via taxpayers too.

@XenoBitchgiving them a clear pathway back to work would be a good start! I mean this from a place of experience - I don’t begrudge PIP but I do think with a lot MH you can end up in a vicious cycle of getting worse and anxieties and depressions being allowed to fester and get worse!

@TheThinkingEconomistor we could change the ending to Then Reform gets in power! Sad times!

PIP is not an out of work benefit.

Do they?? Please tell me where to apply, as I'm on UC and had no idea. I pay full council tax and all utility bills with no reductions, bar the single person council tax discount. Brilliant news!

Maybe they have a moral compass?

FFS claiming benefits is nothing to do with morality.

There are more people playing the system than there are disabled people unable to work.

Council tax reduction is via your council. If you are on UC, it is worth a look to see if you can get some help.
But yeah, there are no reductions for utilities if you are on UC. The only thing I have seen is help with water, and that is only if your water bill is over 10% of your income.

@XenoBitchplease stop getting defensive at every comment! Whilst we’ve established you’re a genuine case there are people who abuse the system! It’s facts!

I think about this. As a household paying the additional rate and husband working away from home constantly to provide for the family, we can't even keep what we earn. We have to fork it over for other families?

Why can't we keep what we earn? And you keep what you earn? What right does anyone else have to the income of another.

Hate to break it you disabled people don't have a monopoly on challenging lives or hard times.

Being disabled doesn't automatically make someone a good person or conscientious member of society. A disabled person like any able bodied person can still be a selfish piece of trash.

Do you have a definite figure for this?
Do you need time to pop to the loo to pull this out your ass?

You are disgusting and I'm glad I don't know you in real life. And fyi I'm autistic with an IQ of 140 and my autistic DD is gifted and the brightest kid in her year. You're just foul.

Of course it is when you’re playing the system. No one is saying that disabled people should not claim benefits.
You disagree that it’s immoral to have 2,3,4,5 children whilst never working a day in your life.

Yes and judging by this thread no shortness in supply of rudeness, sarcasm, and aggression.

I'd say that someone who can and does work choosing to give it up and go on benefits - which was what was being discussed in the post I responded to - very much has something to do with morality. We're not all scroungers.

You can not choose not to work, and live a cosy life on benefits.

Excellent! I’m glad you won’t be claiming benefits then. I never said autism meant low iq. I’m saying parents often mistake a low iq for some kind of disability when it’s just that their child has a low iq.

There are some people who do this and don't even bother to raise the kid properly. Like actually raise them to be good kind kids, actually help them with school work.

I've been on some nasty threads with some awful people on in my time on this site but this one really is the worst. I'm bowing out before some of the posters give me nightmares and destroy my fragile faith in human nature. Big hugs to any other disabled folk / relatives of disabled folk who have been sickened or saddened by some of the bile on this thread. X

Why create a fuss if you lose benefits then?

I don't blame you, have a Good Night.