Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

@DontGoJasonWaterfallsif you actually bothered to read my post you’ll see it’s a tale of two able bodied people being able to work! Once choosing to rinse the benefits system and work bare minimum and one not! This isn’t all abojt
bloody PIP! I don’t include PIP when I bemoan the abuse in UC system! (Though I do believe mental health is best served by actually being proactive and not inactive) this is about a UC system that doesn’t make work pay! And this is why Reform will
get into power!

Average taxpayer contributes £2,000 a year towards welfare.
Approximately 24 million people receiving some kind of benefit in the UK.

2000 ÷ 2,000,000 = £0.00008333333, so that's what an individual is contributing for me.

Except some people are paying out literally thousands of their salaries which do go to people like you. Whether it’s 0.000004 p per person or it all from one person doesn’t actually matter. You’re still getting money that someone else contributed to the pot.

Paying for the pension means jobs and they could go down anyway.

I was referring to Julen's post:

"See @purpleflowergirl’s posts. Someone who is claiming no benefits,I think paying a mortgage, working all hours. Maybe stop feeling sorry for yourself.".

I am grateful there has been a safety net to catch me in.
However, all I see on here is people begrudging me and others that help, and acting like we need to be out self flagellating in public with people uttering "shame" at us.

"people like you"

Ooh, saying the quiet part out loud. What sort of people do you mean by "people like you"?

I have contributed to it too. I am not exempt from things like VAT, and I still pay council tax.

You won't be paying much council tax on basic Uc and LCWRA.

Wish that was true

I actually paid the full rate for years because I did not know how to claim a discount.
And when I was at uni, I also paid because again, I did not know how to get an exemption.
So I have paid in when I did not need to. Enjoy a coffee on me, eh.

Basically free for all. Claiming for whatever you can so you don’t have to work! 🙄

@DontGoJasonWaterfallsyes and she was referring to my first post calling out the fact about the unfairness of mine and many others situations! This isn’t all about PIP it’s about UC abuse that didn’t always involve PIP and how screwed the system can be! If you see many of my posts defend the use for PIP. However, we have a mental health crisis and I do not believe paying people to fester in their houses alone helps them! As someone who has suffered for years with chronic anxiety, OCD the best things for me were socialising, exercise, fresh air, ditching ultra processed food and finding a passion! It’s bloody hard when in the thick of it but the government needs to do schemes to get people with MH out of the house!

Super helpful contribution to the thread

We are constantly flip flopping between "there are no jobs/100 people are going for every job and AI is going to decimate more industries" and "we need more kids born and immigration for people to work in care and pay pensions" which is it? I can't believe both things can be true.

Fund themselves like the rest of the population. If the system is unsustainable there will be no other option.

Now will you elaborate why you think the welfare system is sustainable?

It won’t be the children of those on benefits looking after me because they’ll soon compute that work doesn’t pay. Can you not see where the current situation is heading ?

Well if you don't like the DM link go and find another rag exposing the same story then🤷‍♀️

Yes there needs to be help for people with MH issues. But cutting their money is not a solution.

Those living on benefits paid by workers.

And the ones that have spent their lives on benefits will get their care homes paid for in full whilst you have to sell your home to fund yours.

This quote sums up the economic state of the UK pretty well:

When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation

You’re not really paying vat or council tax if you don’t earn your income from your own wages. You’re paying it out of benefits.

True tho no incentive to work anymore. Just make up an excuse!

The issue is parents who conceive when they cannot afford to have children. Benefits from the off not some unfortunate incident years later.