Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

@Mapleleaf114glad you quickly googled the correct amount! Having previously said £17 per week. The fact remains you seem to know very little about UC system!

If you are on LCWRA, you can't get CA. It gets deducted £ for £

I often wonder how embarrassed those who are too lazy to work would be if they had to line up in front of the tax payers with their hand out every month.
There’s a mum of 7 in our village. Never worked a day in her life! How is that even possible? She got two of her low iq kids assessed for adhd.
The number of parents who want their children assessed for autism , add , adhd is astounding in 2026. Nope some of them simply have a low IQ. It happens when you breed with another waste of space.

I have to say I find it quite amusing that people on this thread seem so annoyed that their world view of benefit claimants being Vicky Pollard types is being challenged. They feel that their prejudice is justified because it’s ok to hate poor people. They don’t like it when you point out that Pollard et al isn’t representative of your typical UC claimants. Diddums

@Xenobitch makes it up as she goes along, best not to engage if you want to keep your blood pressure normal.

I think it is more embarrassing to have your opinion.

The people who can afford them will continue to have them. A reduced population is a good thing.

What am I making up?
I am just a "scrounger" on benefits. What do I know? Right?

Good for you !
Would you be happy to ask a tax payer to pay your benefits to their face? If not why not?

@Julen7😂😂 the majority of this thread believe that benefits are needed but the system is being abused! Those who keep ignoring factual statements are the ones who are pushing more and more people towards reform! There needs to be a serious overhaul of the benefits system in this country. If the far left always stamp their feet and refuse to listen to anyone else, they are giving reform the keys to number 10! As I said I voted Labour as I thought they would make work pay! They haven’t! I would rather eat my own hat that vote for Farage but to many people he appeals to their frustrations! Sad times!

The DWP pays me my benefits. Not you personally. If you had to do the math, you would be paying me 0.00000004% or similar, of your income for me.
So no, I am not going to go grovelling hand in cap to you.
You could end up like me in the blink of an eye.

I have never been a net contributor, but I did a vital job in the NHS

As someone claiming carers allowance to look after my disabled daughter, and also claiming ESA (sickness benefit) having recently been diagnosed with a severe, but luckily temporary, condition, I strongly disagree. I can't just not look after my daughter no matter how ill I am. But I will need at least a year - 18 months to recover so am not currently working.

For the past 25 years Ive paid more in tax/NI per year than a min wage annual salary, and I'll be back in work in a year or so, so will still be paying more than enough into the system. I'm really fucking glad the benefits system exists for people like me.

No one hates poor people but I do believe in deserving and undeserving poor. The undeserving are those who have children while already living in poverty. Who have child after child with an unsuitable partner, who have children without ever having worked a day in their lives. And who have the audacity to speak out against those paying for their lifestyle and say it’s not enough!

Yes and posters throughout the thread telling us it's fine that work doesn't pay because it stops us getting "bored". As busy mums including mums of kids with disabilities that would love more time at home what a crock of shit.

I think the only reason a lot of people still work full time or more is an old fashioned sense of pride. As this work ethic dies out in the next few generations for a more pragmatic "what is best for me" attitude this country will be totally fucked.

Oh, and because I claim carers allowance, ESA is reduced to only £8pw which doesn't even cover the cost of extra heating while I'm at home during the day.

@XenoBitch

See @purpleflowergirl’s posts. Someone who is claiming no benefits,I think paying a mortgage, working all hours. Maybe stop feeling sorry for yourself.

You said 500 which was wrong,and i was replying to a post about child benefit not uc child element- either way, all childfen deserve to be treated equally and as individuals with their own needs,these children will one day pay back this cb with their taxes and more. You should know,you likely gladly accepted your child benefit and if you are older pare t what was it back then, child tax credit-288 per month per child,funny,so close to 292 to ucs child element

Yeah I'd walk up to someone and say "hey thanks for the approximately £0.00008333333 you will pay for me this year".

Your quoted use of the term 'windfall' tells what you think already, and youre trying to engage the rest of us to agree. You have no CLUE what life looks like for other families or why they deserve our support, and remember- more goes UNCLAIMED than fraudulently claimed. I can guarantee noone who's ever needed state welfare would post this nonsense.

Omg yeah @XenoBitch feel sorry for the people able-bodied enough to work full time, don't you know they have it SO much worse with their functioning bodies and minds?

Yet they act like we are marching them to a cashpoint and asking them to hand over serious £k.

If one person is paying you so little then you’d have a long line of people to get through wouldn’t you! You still aren’t grateful for what you receive ?

If only the benefits bill was that small.

good thing you say? Say it when there are no young people around to pay your pension or care for you in a care home

According to stats from the government the number of UC claimants in emplyment was 37% as of December 2024.

A simple google will lead you to that.

37% of the people on Universal Credit were in employment in December 2024
Universal Credit is available to people on a low income as well as those who are out of work.
These statistics define an individual as in employment if they receive employee earnings for the assessment period which includes the count date. The earnings data for each period can be received up to one month after the count date so they are not available until later than the other data on People on Universal Credit. For this reason, the statistics on employment are published a further month in arrears.
Figure 5: People on Universal Credit in employment, Great Britain, December 2019 to December 2024

Anyway, I'm feeling generous tonight, so here it is.