Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

[topicalaffair]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

When we run out of money, benefits for eating disorders will be at the forefront to be removed.

Educate yourself. It is not hard.

Bit rude. Not very persuasive approach and if you aren't trying to persuade what's the point of you posting? JUST TO RANT??

So Ebenezer Scrooge "let them die and decrease the surplus population"?

Easy to say it when it isn't your family experiencing it; I doubt you'd be so "it's just financial" then.

How entitled of me to be disabled 😂

Again...why do you think Labour are forcing the Assisted Dying Bill through?

OK I'm not believing the higher food bills sorry (distasteful as you might find that).

Taxis OK- so we consider how much is reasonable. Medical appts plus a little maybe. Seat cushion and vitamins - ok there's £30 one off plus £6 a month.

If a person with anorexia had costs associated with their illness they could put them forward in a cost based benefit claim. E.g. if it was transport to medical appointments then they could evidence that.

This discussion is not about punishing anyone. If we had a small and stable amount of people claiming disability benefits and healthy public finances we could look after them well and I wouldn't waste my time discussing it. We have an unsustainable welfare bill and a disaffected working population increasingly refusing to put their nose to the grindstone extra to bleed taxes.

Where do you think we should cut? Can I guess you don't? Let's find "billionaires" to pay.

Here is a question for you. Why should even a billionaire fund someone's lifestyle choice to have 6 kids? It's not about "stopping people having kids" as someone suggested earlier. It's simply saying after a certain point (which was 2 kids) you will need to fund any more yourself.

I’d leave her be. She’s clearly not very bright. Some people have no idea that their personal entitlement - expanded to the wider populace on a grand scale - is the one reason why benefits HAVE to be cut in the future. They’re digging their own grave. And that of those whose disability genuinely leaves them in need to cash.

I have an ADHD / ASD child. It’s expensive stuff. Cannot wear most clothes due to sensory issues, paying for private schooling due to the need for peace. I don’t claim a penny because I believe in supporting ourselves.

You asked the question. I am replying with the stance I think the next govt will take. Sorry if it’s not what you want to hear.

Yeah just leave it, she just can’t grasp the problem sadly.

Really? Have you seen the comments about how a severe eating disorder does not benefits?
Utterly batshit ignorant comments about the true cost of a devastating MH disorder that I have lost too many friends too.

If you are on PIP, a person you live with can claim carer's allowance.... which is about £80pw. If you have severe anorexia, you often have someone needing to make sure you eat, not run to the loo after meals, not do exercises to burn calories off. That is a full time job in itself.

Well yes. Aside from relief to those with terminal illness, for everyone else when welfare collapses it will be work or starve, so I guess some will choose it.

It's entitlement to talk about benefits as something you are owed irrespective of the wider costs. The benefits bill is unsustainable, we are hurtling towards a point where there will be more people drawing out than putting in.

We can't keep funding growing welfare commitments with a shrinking tax / net tax payer base. Where do you thing the money should come from?

No, I am not very bright. Happy?

Most of the welfare bill is actually pension.
How do you propose to cut that?

This in absolute spades. I had clinical depression for 12 years. There were days when I could barely talk. But I still got up and went to work because my tediously dull admin job it was the best thing in my life. It got me up, dressed, thinking of something other than extending despair for a few hours. If someone had handed me a wedge of cash to sit about at home I’d still be there.

You can make your point without being rude to people. You have some valid experience and knowledge which may make people think but you ruin it by talking about crayons.

AND THE CAPITALS ARE DISTRACTING.

Exactly...how about scrap the triple lock for the pensioners that don't need it??

You are one accident/breakdown/stroke away from having to "need" to grasp the same problem.
Stay humble... although I don't think doing so will protect you from disability.

and again we know that and that is why the costs are completely out of control - because people are claiming for disabilities that cost them nothing.

You're incorrigible.

But the bill is riding exponentially for disability. Cut pensions and you save yourself a few months of PIP rise. Why put it off? Why not tackle both?

Some posters seem to think that disability is something that only happens to other people.