Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

"People will give correct and reasonable answers".

This sort of thing is literally what benefits, especially PIP, is for.

Well obviously given my posts on Labour’s policies impacting jobs. It’s their terrible approach. So yes they should go and a better approach to job creation should be a priority.

OK let's look at it another way which may be helpful (its the attitude of the population that Im interested in as its relevant today).

What if we found out the Russians were planning on carrying out a land invasion in a years time, having rearmed and are supported by China. And our nuclear subs having not been tested for years malfunctioned. Not beyond the realms of possibility.

What would happen? Our money would switch from benefits to arms. And young people would be conscripted and most would end up wanting to at least be able to defend themselves and their families. We would end up just getting on with it. And no phobias or anxiety or depression would stop this conscription. And no benefits would be paid. And we would just have to get on with it. And it would be shit of course. But we would just have to do it. Europe can no longer spend 65% of the benefits in the world .

The fact you think your views are economically reasonable is quite amazing to a professional economist like myself.

The sheer level of entitlement above and beyond what a safety net should be for is quite impressive.

Society does not owe you the same standard of living as someone who works. This does not exist anywhere on the planet because it creates perverse economic incentives.

Catch the problem early on. Treat it.

The problem often starts with the parent(s). No amount of throwing money at it will overcome that hurdle.

Who said I don't work? I've never said that.

I had anorexia in my early 20s and the answer is no. For me it cost nothing more.

If you work you should be able to fund all those things yourself.

That is why (if a resident parent claims benefits) it needs to be paid direct to the state not the parent. That way if they don't pay it is the state's problem rather than the resident parent's problem. It could be treated like paying tax to HMRC.

Birth rate is 1.4. I don't think you should be worrying about hordes of people having six children to get more benefits, a better thing to worry about is who is going to be working to pay the pensions of current working age adults.

Food cause they can only eat x y z is quite frankly ridiculous. You have to feed your child regardless of what they eat. Do they only eat smoked salmon? Caviar? Come on!

Interesting post. It would certainly be a reality check.

I could claim to be a professional lion tamer on the internet, doesn't give my views on zoos any more credence than anyone else's.

You think it's entitlement to need skincare to prevent infections in flaking skin and heating to prevent hypothermia?

So you would have had no need to apply for benefits relating to that then. Other people suffering from the same disease may have different situations relating to their health.

Yep, it is a devastating illness. I have known many people with anorexia over the years and most are dead now... gone in their 20s and 30s, and a couple in their 40s. Most really wanted to get better but the illness is so strong.
It is the only MH illness that has the offer of palliative care. That should say something really. It can genuinely be terminal illness once it gets to a certain point, and there are posters on here wailing about anorexics getting benefits 🙄

The concept of personal responsibility seems to be alien to you.

That in itself indicates a serious problem.

Why would you not pay for those yourself though? If you work?

PIP is awarded based on care needs. Money does not come into it at all.

These threads always boil down to:

"These aren't emotional decisions, they're financial"

"But people will literally die"

"Stop emotionally blackmailing is, this is financial"

"Right but these people will die"

"DON'T BE EMOTIONAL IT'S FINANCIAL".

Anorexia is anorexia, can’t really see how costs would vary very much.

The problem is if both parents have not worked and rely on benefits and have 6 kids there is a greater chance their kids will replicate their lifestyle. We will be in a bigger mess.

Yeah, worked from when I was 12 until I physically couldn't any more, personal responsibility is a totally alien concept 🙄

Who will die of ADHD?

Please read up on it. It is an utterly devastiting illness.