Labour increase benefits bill. AIBU To think what’s the point in working?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15520831/Labours-push-lift-two-child-benefits-cap-hand-25-000-windfalls-thousands-Britains-biggest-jobless-families.html#

‘Official estimates suggest the cost of scrapping the cap will total £13.6 billion over the next five years.

The Tories said families currently affected by the cap are in line to receive windfalls worth an average £25,000 each over that period.

But the biggest families will gain far more. Thousands of families with five children will receive around £10,900 a year while those with six children will get an extra £16,600 a year.
Almost half of the families involved have no one in work.‘

I very much doubt the majority of the post war population were all benefits types. They will have seen 1000 times worse than most people now and most of them would have just got on with rebuilding their lives and the country not sitting at home waiting for payouts. If there were no payouts they would have to have just got on with life. Which is what will happen here soon when we run out of money.

I think it is disregarded as it is not a reliable source of income, and some shitty fathers will withhold paying if they knew it would fuck up their ex's UC.

I am not sure what the solution is to that.

Claim PIP?
(Joke)

I mean, we're talking about people already on PIP.

Yeah right so easy.....and you only pick one point in the whole thread.....there isnt enough now but Jack is okay dispicable

Be less disabled (also a joke but you do wonder on here).

There was one of the biggest housing programmes ever, in part to ensure veterans were housed cheaply and well. My great uncle had been a POW. He got a brand new council flat where he screamed all through the night. He didnt really work again although his wife did to support them. I dint know if he got any sickness benefit to be fair.

Do you have any skills that would allow you to be self employed from home?
This is what I did when my health took a turn for the worse. Had to leave my career of 30 years but I had transferable skills and a good idea and set up my own business offering a pretty unique service I knew would be valuable in my sector. Just had to convince a few people to try my services and within 9 months I am full time working from home, very flexibly so can work any hours I want, take a break when I want etc. I don't enjoy the actual work as much as my previous role but I did have a career I really enjoyed for a long time and this works for me now.
As a single woman with a grown child I couldn't survive on benefits as I would be entitled to very little.

Allowing youngsters to sign up for PIP for anxiety/depression is condemning them to a lifetime on benefits. There is no incentive to work when they get as much or more than they could hope to earn. If they are out of work they can claim universal credit without disability benefits - about £400 I believe and still have an incentive to work as they can earn £1200 or so even on minimum wage. With PIP and disability uplifts to universal credit they would get about that for staying at home.

I think this is how nearly all working people feel op, yanbu. Being told we have no empathy is gaslighting nonsense.

We need to pump more money into CAMHS, so there are less kids entering adulthood with MH issues to begin with.

Where will compassion get us when Britain goes broke?

You can't because those excessive welfare payments are crowding out investment into things like CAMHS.

Do you see the problem now?

They need jobs not this Labour approach which takes them away.

Look at any thread with a young person unable to get a job and every one will say their MH is being impacted. Just get young people working not these terrible policies doing the opposite.

Individual stories are obviously sad but also obviously dont reflect the whole population after or during the war. They just had to get on. Its a shame we do not have anyone on here who lived through it as an adult to tell us what peoples attitudes were.

What are the costs of being anorexic?

Perhaps with less £££ to pay out more residential treatments could be funded?

Um, do you know who CAMHS is for? Not for people who are of working age.
Catch the problem early on. Treat it.

"Just get young people working" does not help when there are no jobs for them to go to. The job market out there is fucking awful right now.

I am self employed but it's very seasonal, not related to my skills and not viable as a full time job. My skills are in education but my condition is so variable I can't commit to tutoring.

I'm currently retraining in a totally different field that has much more flexibility for working from home, but I'm about 4 years away from qualifying.

Posters will come up with the usual. Extra heating. Food because they can only eat x, y, z. Therapy.

OK, I hope you are actually joking by asking that.
Google is free to use. It would be better for you to quietly educate yourself before you offend people with lived experience of severe eating disorders.

Have a society that allows you to keep more of your earnings? If you are working lots of 12 hour days even at minimum wage you must be earning a fair bit and paying quite a lot of tax snd NI?

Who do you think was living in the housing, using the nhs, going to the schools, claiming the new pensions, sickness benefits and unemployment benefits . just one individual with a sob story

Something like 12,000 veterans got a pension for shell shock.

A whole heap of disability laws were introduced to encourage employment for disabled people. There was a huge labour shortage unlike now.

They 'just got on with it' by creating the welfare state and using it. They wanted better.

People might hace been private about it and had a sense of shame attached but they did use it.

It may need reform and improvement but what did they do after ww2 is a silly comment in relation to welfare.

Higher food bills due to a severely restricted diet. Higher heating bills due to being chronically cold. Taxis to and from everywhere because you have no energy to walk/take public transport. Supportive seat cushions so you don't have to sit on the bones of your arse. Vitamin supplements. Specialist skincare due to how dry/flaking sore your skin is.

I could go on.

Anorexia is not a cheap disease to live with.

You need to stop reading the Daily Mail OP - it's full of misleading and biased information the likes of which you keep spouting.

You are a high earner. Think yourself fortunate.

All of these things, and more. It costs money, does it not?