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To be disgusted that Iranian dissidents are being branded "filthy Zionists" in London rally

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Twiglets1 · 03/02/2026 07:18

The Jewish Chronicle reports that a pro-Palestine mob branded Iranian dissidents “filthy Zionists” at a rally in London on Saturday.

Thousands marched through the capital in support of Palestine, with some brandishing placards bearing images of Iran’s supreme leader Ali Khamenei and the words "the right side of history".

The Iranian regime has killed thousands of Iranian protesters in recent weeks, with the death toll exceeding 30,000, according to some estimates.

A counter-demonstration organised by pro-Israel campaign group Stop the Hate was stationed at the junction of Kingsway and Aldwych Street, where a large screen had been put up. Footage of torture carried out by Hamas and of the Islamic Republic Guards Corp (IRGC) attacking protesting Iranians played on the screen. Stop the Hate said it aimed to highlight how the "silence" of Saturday’s protesters when it came to Iran’s brutal crackdown.

A banner held by one pro-Palestinian demonstrator targeted Iranians who want the exiled Crown Prince of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, to return to replace the ayatollah. It read: "Pahlavi-supporting Iranians who stand alongside the Israeli flag are just filthy Zionists."

Another demonstrator called on the Home Office to "deproscribe Hezbollah and Hamas", while several banners read "Globalise the intifada" – an arrestable offence in Greater London.

One protester, who did not want to give his name, told the JC of his belief in the need for Palestinian "resistance" and attempted to justify the atrocities of October 7 by saying "Hamas didn't have a choice", adding that "Israel should have never existed in the first place."

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/pro-palestinian-protesters-brand-iranian-dissidents-filthy-zionists-rbbad30f

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ChequerToRed · 05/02/2026 10:01

Binus · 05/02/2026 09:26

Absolutely, and there are clearly people who don't realise that. It isn't enough to keep their own people under a boot, they facilitate Hamas, the Houthis and Hezbollah to emiserate those outside their borders too.

And let’s not forget that one of Iran’s biggest oil customers is…Russia!
Therefore, anyone supporting the current Iranian regime is also supporting Putin’s monstrous bloodbath in Ukraine,

Binus · 05/02/2026 10:08

ChequerToRed · 05/02/2026 10:01

And let’s not forget that one of Iran’s biggest oil customers is…Russia!
Therefore, anyone supporting the current Iranian regime is also supporting Putin’s monstrous bloodbath in Ukraine,

Yep!

Twiglets1 · 05/02/2026 10:27

ChequerToRed · 05/02/2026 10:01

And let’s not forget that one of Iran’s biggest oil customers is…Russia!
Therefore, anyone supporting the current Iranian regime is also supporting Putin’s monstrous bloodbath in Ukraine,

Good point.

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mids2019 · 06/02/2026 06:31

About the verdict on the recent court case.

We have let out police officers down, many of whom put their lives at risk every day. To see obvious assault go unpunished is a fanning indictment of our legal system.

The problem in my view is the jury system and the ability to pick unbiased jurors. With our system of unrecorded jury debates (which is fair) the ability of maybe a couple of biased people in the jury is enough to overturn jurys. In this case it probably was the case that people with staunch pro pal views were on the jury and made the trial not about British law but about a foreign conflict.

Maybe we need jury selection as in the US?

Twiglets1 · 06/02/2026 07:26

The voting on my thread has finished now apparently and stands at 86% of the 169 people who voted think I’m not being unreasonable.

Good to know, thanks everyone who voted.

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RainbowBagels · 06/02/2026 07:35

mids2019 · 06/02/2026 06:31

About the verdict on the recent court case.

We have let out police officers down, many of whom put their lives at risk every day. To see obvious assault go unpunished is a fanning indictment of our legal system.

The problem in my view is the jury system and the ability to pick unbiased jurors. With our system of unrecorded jury debates (which is fair) the ability of maybe a couple of biased people in the jury is enough to overturn jurys. In this case it probably was the case that people with staunch pro pal views were on the jury and made the trial not about British law but about a foreign conflict.

Maybe we need jury selection as in the US?

Apparently one ofvthe jurors emailed the judge saying they could see posters which were displayed by pro Pal supporters. The police just took them down, but its jury tampering surely?

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 07:53

Killing innocent civilians is wrong whether they are Iranian, Palestinian or any other nationality for that matter (the list of examples is depressing long).

ThatCyanCat · 06/02/2026 10:44

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 07:53

Killing innocent civilians is wrong whether they are Iranian, Palestinian or any other nationality for that matter (the list of examples is depressing long).

Which is why Hamas, who used aid money to build terror tunnels that were deliberately set around civilian structures and held hostages and weapons in homes and hospitals to increase the death count among their own civilians for exploitation, and who, on the first day of the ceasefire, dragged a load of people out of their homes to shoot them in the head, really are the most evil inhuman slime.

And yet all these marches calling to free Palestine never say a word about it.

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 17:09

ThatCyanCat · 06/02/2026 10:44

Which is why Hamas, who used aid money to build terror tunnels that were deliberately set around civilian structures and held hostages and weapons in homes and hospitals to increase the death count among their own civilians for exploitation, and who, on the first day of the ceasefire, dragged a load of people out of their homes to shoot them in the head, really are the most evil inhuman slime.

And yet all these marches calling to free Palestine never say a word about it.

They are all EQUALLY evil inhuman slime because human lives have equal value regardless of nationality, skin colour or religion.

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 17:18

ThatCyanCat · 06/02/2026 10:44

Which is why Hamas, who used aid money to build terror tunnels that were deliberately set around civilian structures and held hostages and weapons in homes and hospitals to increase the death count among their own civilians for exploitation, and who, on the first day of the ceasefire, dragged a load of people out of their homes to shoot them in the head, really are the most evil inhuman slime.

And yet all these marches calling to free Palestine never say a word about it.

Well said

Anyone who thinks Hamas cares about Palestinians and wants to protect them is utterly deluded. Hamas must be pissing themselves laughing at all the westerners falling hook line and sinker for their hateful propaganda playing the victim

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 18:02

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 17:18

Well said

Anyone who thinks Hamas cares about Palestinians and wants to protect them is utterly deluded. Hamas must be pissing themselves laughing at all the westerners falling hook line and sinker for their hateful propaganda playing the victim

Yep. Hamas are murdering bastards. The Iranian regime are murdering bastards. The Israeli government are murdering bastards. Could go on.
if the purpose of the OP is to express solidarity with the Iranian people then fair play. If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

HappyFace2025 · 06/02/2026 18:09

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 18:02

Yep. Hamas are murdering bastards. The Iranian regime are murdering bastards. The Israeli government are murdering bastards. Could go on.
if the purpose of the OP is to express solidarity with the Iranian people then fair play. If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

This thread is about Iran, not Gaza even though it has been mentioned in passing.

Twiglets1 · 06/02/2026 18:12

It’s very clear what the OP is about.

Solidarity with the Iranian people yes. Also disgust that anyone would brand some of them “filthy zionists” - the majority of people who voted in this thread do not find this acceptable.

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Twiglets1 · 06/02/2026 18:14

HappyFace2025 · 06/02/2026 18:09

This thread is about Iran, not Gaza even though it has been mentioned in passing.

Edited

Indeed.

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FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 18:21

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 18:02

Yep. Hamas are murdering bastards. The Iranian regime are murdering bastards. The Israeli government are murdering bastards. Could go on.
if the purpose of the OP is to express solidarity with the Iranian people then fair play. If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

What makes it a genocide rather than a war?

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 18:22

HappyFace2025 · 06/02/2026 18:09

This thread is about Iran, not Gaza even though it has been mentioned in passing.

Edited

The extraordinary ability to shoe horn “what about Gaza” into every thread is quite admirable

BunfightBetty · 06/02/2026 18:45

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 18:02

Yep. Hamas are murdering bastards. The Iranian regime are murdering bastards. The Israeli government are murdering bastards. Could go on.
if the purpose of the OP is to express solidarity with the Iranian people then fair play. If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

Eh?? I’m absolutely baffled.

What is there in the OP that’s caused you to suspect this? I’d really like you to quote what it is the OP said that led you to believe this could possibly be the case please, so I can understand where you’re coming from.

dairydebris · 06/02/2026 18:55

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 18:02

Yep. Hamas are murdering bastards. The Iranian regime are murdering bastards. The Israeli government are murdering bastards. Could go on.
if the purpose of the OP is to express solidarity with the Iranian people then fair play. If it’s to discourage people from speaking out against the genocide in Gaza then absolutely shameful!

Anyone putting the Iranian regime and Hamas in the same category as Israel betrays their utter ignorance of the region.

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 19:34

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dairydebris · 06/02/2026 19:46

@Ilovecrispytofu

I recognize the stark distance between 2 repressive regimes who use violence to uphold an extremely conservative Islamist whole system of government- with everything that involves- from a terrible record on women's rights to murdering political opponents, and the one democracy in the the ME, which while flawed and not perfect, does not shoot its own citizens in the street or force its women to dress a certain way or be violently punished.

Anyone equating Hamas, the Iranian regime and Israel needs to pick up a fucking book once in a while. Yes I mean you.

HappyFace2025 · 06/02/2026 19:50

dairydebris · 06/02/2026 19:46

@Ilovecrispytofu

I recognize the stark distance between 2 repressive regimes who use violence to uphold an extremely conservative Islamist whole system of government- with everything that involves- from a terrible record on women's rights to murdering political opponents, and the one democracy in the the ME, which while flawed and not perfect, does not shoot its own citizens in the street or force its women to dress a certain way or be violently punished.

Anyone equating Hamas, the Iranian regime and Israel needs to pick up a fucking book once in a while. Yes I mean you.

Well said 👏

Ilovecrispytofu · 06/02/2026 20:16

Wow, I didn’t think saying that mass murdering is ALWAYS wrong would prove so controversial! Weird times we are living in…

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 20:25

dairydebris · 06/02/2026 18:55

Anyone putting the Iranian regime and Hamas in the same category as Israel betrays their utter ignorance of the region.

👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 20:28

dairydebris · 06/02/2026 19:46

@Ilovecrispytofu

I recognize the stark distance between 2 repressive regimes who use violence to uphold an extremely conservative Islamist whole system of government- with everything that involves- from a terrible record on women's rights to murdering political opponents, and the one democracy in the the ME, which while flawed and not perfect, does not shoot its own citizens in the street or force its women to dress a certain way or be violently punished.

Anyone equating Hamas, the Iranian regime and Israel needs to pick up a fucking book once in a while. Yes I mean you.

Well said.

It genuinely baffles me that people get so angry about the only democracy in the ME, a HUGE LGBTQ friendly country (constantly under attack by haters of Jew and the West), because they’d rather protect murderous, misogynistic terrorists who beat women to death for having a literal hair out of place. Not to mention using actually children as human shields.

Golda Meir put it perfectly - when Palestinians learn to love their children more than they hate Jews, they will find peace (not verbatim)

dairydebris · 06/02/2026 20:32

FMLGFastMovingLuxuryGoods · 06/02/2026 20:28

Well said.

It genuinely baffles me that people get so angry about the only democracy in the ME, a HUGE LGBTQ friendly country (constantly under attack by haters of Jew and the West), because they’d rather protect murderous, misogynistic terrorists who beat women to death for having a literal hair out of place. Not to mention using actually children as human shields.

Golda Meir put it perfectly - when Palestinians learn to love their children more than they hate Jews, they will find peace (not verbatim)

What baffles me is the confident comments from people who clearly have no idea what theyre talking about.