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AIBU or is this understandable?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

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Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:31

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:30

I think she’s giving it a lot of thought actually.

What on earth makes you think that?!

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:31

madeofmore · 01/02/2026 17:27

I think that would have maybe led to seeing your friend if you had helped her out yes. Help her settle the middle child while you take oldest for some fresh air and a nice bit of time together and then see how things are. It could have benefitted you all but you'll never know so... oh well.

Would your six year old be pleased to be sent out in a foreign country with a woman who is a stranger to her?

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Furning · 01/02/2026 17:34

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:30

Damn… you really don’t like this friend OP!

And it would seem if you never contacted her again, she wouldn’t notice anyway!

Yes, I dislike her so much I send gifts for all of her children’s birthdays and Christmas and spent a small fortune on visiting her numerous times.

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Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:35

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:34

Yes, I dislike her so much I send gifts for all of her children’s birthdays and Christmas and spent a small fortune on visiting her numerous times.

This is all getting a bit weird

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:36

Why do you think she’s giving this a lot of thought @Furning

Given she hasn’t once visited you in 7 years and only messages to says thanks for presents?

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:36

DualPower · 01/02/2026 17:30

I can see why you feel disappointed. You were so close to seeing each other after a long gap and it didn’t happen. At the same time, reading this, it’s hard to ignore that you don’t have children, and that does limit how imaginable this situation is from the outside. Travelling alone with three very young children, one of them unsettled, is not a minor inconvenience, it's overwhelming. To me it sounds like someone struggling to get through the day.
Also, it sounds like a pretty bleak version of a holiday. Being confined to a hotel room all week with a baby, a toddler and a six year old isn’t rest or enjoyment. It’s management.
If the friendship is going to continue, it may need to shift. Less about what you give materially, and more about accepting that for now, her capacity looks very different to the person you travelled with before she had children. What she likely needs is understanding and connection that fits the reality she’s in, not more presents for the kids.

I have never said I don’t have children. At some point that has just been invented by a poster and apparently agreed upon. Whether I do or don't is entirely irrelevant.

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nomas · 01/02/2026 17:36

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:35

This is all getting a bit weird

OP was being sarcastic.

TreesinthePark · 01/02/2026 17:36

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:23

I can’t believe the amount of parents who, after two years of not seeing someone, would expect them to come and take out a child (and be happy to send said child off with someone who is a stranger to them) without having any conversation. It is extremely odd.

It's not odd at all. You're a stranger to the child, not the parent. If a parent trusts their friend then I don't see why they would mind you taking a 6 year old out for an hour or sitting in a hotel room with the baby.

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:36

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:36

I have never said I don’t have children. At some point that has just been invented by a poster and apparently agreed upon. Whether I do or don't is entirely irrelevant.

If you have children I’ll eat my hat

21ZIGGY · 01/02/2026 17:37

Do you think she was ever there at all?

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:37

nomas · 01/02/2026 17:36

OP was being sarcastic.

Yes I know

are you saying the follow up posts indicate this Op actually likes her friend? No, not really and has felt pissed off for years!

Frugalgal · 01/02/2026 17:37

Furning · 01/02/2026 14:08

I have a good friend I’ve been friends with since my university days.

We both moved away from the UK and are both living in Europe now. My friend text me a couple of weeks ago saying that she was bringing her children to visit my city this week, and was I free. I was very free and was looking forward to seeing my friend and her children. We used to go on city breaks and the odd long haul beach holiday before she had children, but obviously don’t get the time to see each other much now so I really was looking forward to a catch up.

The day we were due to meet, she messaged to say her middle child (a toddler, and she also has a six month old and a six year old) wouldn’t settle and she wouldn’t be able to leave the hotel. She suggested another day, then again text to say the toddler was still unsettled and was being hard work. I was very relaxed about what we did, and would’ve been happy to go to the park, for a walk, to a soft play, anything. I wasn’t expecting one on one time without the kids.

She went home on Friday and text to say she was sorry we weren’t able to catch up.

I feel quite hurt. I send the children birthday and Christmas gifts, flew in for their baptisms, stood as Godmother for one. I flew over for her wedding and to another destination for her hen do. But she was a couple of blocks away and couldn’t see me? Couldn’t even have invited me for a coffee at the hotel or brought the kids to my house?

AIBU or is it to be accepted when travelling with kids? My DH is more bothered about it than me and said he thinks he’d be done with the friendship (I am not done and not considering being, but it’s surprised me that he’s expressed such a strong opinion when he’s normally very laid back about things).

If she wasn't bothered why would she have told you she was coming in the first place? If I was travelling to a city where someone lived that I couldn't be arsed to see I just wouldn't tell them.

I think you've had some ridiculous accusatory and presumptuous replies on here. There's not much you can do except match her energy and let it fizzle unless she decides to tell you what's wrong. My guess is something is wrong but she didn't feel able to tell you.

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:37

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:31

What on earth makes you think that?!

The messages I have had since.

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PussInBin20 · 01/02/2026 17:38

I think the relationship has changed. Most likely as she has 3 children and life has taken her in a different direction. Maybe you don’t have as much in common now (from her point of view).

It sounds like if you didn’t reach out to her, she probably wouldn’t either.

I don’t believe she spent the week cooped up in the hotel - she probably just had a good time with her sister.

Sorry OP but your DH is right.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 01/02/2026 17:39

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:31

Would your six year old be pleased to be sent out in a foreign country with a woman who is a stranger to her?

Actually, most six year olds would.
They love a new grown up to chat to.

That definitely shows you haven't got children @Furning

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:39

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:37

The messages I have had since.

And how have you responded?

And what have her messages said? Odd you’ve not mentioned this before!

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:42

TreesinthePark · 01/02/2026 17:36

It's not odd at all. You're a stranger to the child, not the parent. If a parent trusts their friend then I don't see why they would mind you taking a 6 year old out for an hour or sitting in a hotel room with the baby.

And the child? They’re usually quite vocal about whether they’d want to spend a day with a stranger.

Either way though, I work full time, I have pressures on my free time, I would always move as much as I could in order to see my friend, but I’m afraid that doesn’t extend to babysitting her kids when I haven’t seen her for two years. If I offered to babysit every time one of my friends who’s a mother was frazzled I’d be doing it every week.

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stclementine · 01/02/2026 17:42

Furning · 01/02/2026 15:35

This is what I had thought but my husband thinks that the toddler cant have meant that it was impossible to see her at the hotel, my house, the park, a walk etc.

He thinks I should knock the gifts on the head until it is more of a two way friendship.

I think your husband is right. You’re obviously just there to provide presents for the kids and she keeps you dangling with empty promises to make sure you continue.

ditch her.

MaggieBsBoat · 01/02/2026 17:42

To be honest I do understand where she is coming from. When my kids were small one of my friends was forever suggesting meeting at times when my kids would’ve been hard work and it was very stressful for me, embarrassing and exhausting. She let you down but I doubt it was coming from a bad place.

Helen1625 · 01/02/2026 17:42

I haven't read every single response to this, but I have read your comments and I think Ive got the gyst. I think your friend's children - especially the unsettled one - might very well of benefitted from leaving the hotel room. Stuck inside the same 4 walls for a whole week is enough to drive anyone crazy. I bet the kids were bored. I think it would have been great for her to visit you, have an extra pair of hands and take the pressure off. So the question is, why didn't she? Her priorities will have changed, children and husband will always come before friends. She may not be as invested in the friendship as you are. There could be any number of reasons why she couldn't/didn't make time to see you. I'd say you've every right to be hurt and a little bit pissed off that she couldn't spare an hour with you, especially as she was so close. An unsettled toddler - for an entire week -sounds like an excuse.

Personally, I would step back from this friendship. I think it will just fizzle out.

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:43

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:36

If you have children I’ll eat my hat

I have a 22 year old son who is still a child to me!

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Wemetatascoutcamp · 01/02/2026 17:43

Furning · 01/02/2026 16:37

I have plenty of experience of young children.

‘you’ve said multiple times you weren’t interested in seeing the children only your friend’

I have not said this once. I have, however, said multiple times that I was looking forward to seeing the kids and that I suggested many child friendly activities.

Why do people make things up on this forum? Is it a comprehension issue or just the glee of excitement of posting something condescending?

You replied to multiple posters who suggested perhaps offering to take one or two of the other children out instead to let your friend concentrate on the toddler that you weren’t interested in spending time with the children….. which is why I thought you had no interest in them. You also mentioned stopping buying gifts for them which again suggests your not really interested in them but I apologise if thats not the case.

And no offence but you also really haven’t come across as having much experience with young children otherwise you’d understand your friend has had a rubbish week spent stressed out and was probably too embarrassed to let you see she wasn’t coping. If your friend can’t leave the hotel room or leave the children with her sister for a couple of hours there’s more to it than just an unsettled toddler. The fact she reached out before the visit suggests she’s tried really hard to make the effort to see you but just couldn’t make it happen- please be kind to her.

PussInBin20 · 01/02/2026 17:43

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 01/02/2026 17:39

Actually, most six year olds would.
They love a new grown up to chat to.

That definitely shows you haven't got children @Furning

Well mine wouldn’t that’s for sure! What are you talking about - have you done a survey? 🙄

Dreamlava · 01/02/2026 17:43

What kind of messages has she been sending since them for you to think she’s giving this a lot of thought?

Furning · 01/02/2026 17:44

21ZIGGY · 01/02/2026 17:37

Do you think she was ever there at all?

Yes, definitely. And I think she did want to meet.

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