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Helping MIL but not in the way that’s clearly expected

396 replies

Enablinglocationiseasier · 24/01/2026 12:09

MIL in poor health

SIL her regular help with medical stuff appts , shopping, lifts and household. SIL having OP so told us we need to ‘step up’.

We’ve arranged online shops , Ubers for appts and a cleaner . MIL got upset as couldn’t work out the app so we showed her. Apparently we are unkind and should just drive her ourselves.
We are paying for everything.

She also hates having a stranger in the house so is complaining about the cleaner.

AIBU to think she needs to just accept the help it may not be how she wants it but it meets all the needs she has expressed having ?

OP posts:
BubblesandTiara · 24/01/2026 18:00

sammylady37 · 24/01/2026 16:26

where has it been suggested he stop going to work, stop staying with his wife and stop looking after his children completely?

it’s perfectly possible to live with one’s spouse and children, actively parent those children, hold down a job and provide support to a parent who lives a mere 30 minutes away.

when you see how the average parent already struggles a lot to make the nativity or sports day, and various sport tournaments etc, in real life it really is not that easy at all.

I know on MN everyone has a cushy job, works 9 to 4, is home for tea and bath time and what-have-you, but in real life, parents struggle with after-school childcare big time, and even if supermarkets are opened until midnight, would not find it easy let alone possible to go to support their parent

Plus realistically, even if you can leave the kids to your other half in the evening, I am not sure what kind of support you actually offer if you can only come between 9 and 10pm

SleafordSods · 24/01/2026 18:02

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 17:56

She’s ten years younger than me so I find it very sad that she needs such a high level of support. Obviously we don’t know what her health issues really are. For me everything that’s been arranged as a temporary fix is fine apart from the appointments. An Uber or taxi will drop her outside the door, it won’t get her to the right clinic or support or advocate for her, it’s clearly not the answer. Her son should take some time off from his big, important job to support her until her carer can take over again.

Alternatively she could have Hospital Transport which would get her to the right clinic?

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:05

SleafordSods · 24/01/2026 18:02

Alternatively she could have Hospital Transport which would get her to the right clinic?

Still no support or advocacy. Have some of you never been ill?

FluffMagnet · 24/01/2026 18:08

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 17:56

She’s ten years younger than me so I find it very sad that she needs such a high level of support. Obviously we don’t know what her health issues really are. For me everything that’s been arranged as a temporary fix is fine apart from the appointments. An Uber or taxi will drop her outside the door, it won’t get her to the right clinic or support or advocate for her, it’s clearly not the answer. Her son should take some time off from his big, important job to support her until her carer can take over again.

Im not sure how much leave you get, but between DH and I, as the majority of parents, we do not have enough to cover anywhere near the school holidays, let alone enough to take mother to healthcare appointments (which sounds like they are a regular feature of MIL's life, so unsure why she wouldnt know where to go). MIL needs to consider her children and suck it up for a brief period, like the adult she is.

sittingonabeach · 24/01/2026 18:09

@BubblesandTiara my DH works long hours but still manages to help me care for my elderly DM

thepariscrimefiles · 24/01/2026 18:11

Sooose · 24/01/2026 16:49

If you simply have no time to help because of work and children then perhaps YANBU, but if you think that online shops and ordering Ubers for appointments is equivalent help then YABU. It's not the same at all. All the reassurance and support your MIL would get from having that help from her loved ones cannot be replicated by delegating it out to companies. Social time and the attention of loved ones is a big plus.
Are you sure you can't find a few hours a week, between you and your DH, to help her out in person?

OP isn't one of her MIL's 'loved ones' though. She has never been nice to OP and has been generally unkind and dismissive and made it clear from the start that she didn't think OP was a suitable wife for her son.

It is perfectly reasonable for OP to only provide the sort of 'hands-off' care such as taxis and online food shopping that MIL is complaining about. If OP's MIL wanted the sort of relationship where her DIL would be happy to provide hands-on care in MIL's home, she should have welcomed OP into her family and been a kind and supportive MIL. She did the opposite of that so she can't expect OP to put herself out to find a few hours a week to help her out in person.

thepariscrimefiles · 24/01/2026 18:16

2catsandhappy · 24/01/2026 17:14

Well @Enablinglocationiseasier you have asked for opinions so here is my pennyworth.
You have covered basic care efficiently. Boxes ticked.

Could you maybe now go a little more personal and provide a thoughtful treat?
Send a regular bouquet the week before you go for your monthly visit. MIL will have something to enjoy and a little conversation piece when you get there.
Is there maybe a nice restaurant/museum/garden you can go to for those visits? Something to look forward to and have chats about after?
Does MIL enjoy theatre or ballet or choral shows? No having to force conversation and she could have lovely memories.
Perhaps you or dh make an amazing cheesecake/carrot cake/walnut loaf <insesrt own speciality> and could gift this for MIL to be thrilled over.

I might be old fashioned, but I do treat people how I would like to be treated.

Unfortunately, MIL didn't treat OP in the way she now wants to be treated herself. She is/was unkind and unwelcoming and said that OP wasn't good enough for her son to marry.

That is why OP isn't inclined to do all the thoughtful things that you have mentioned in your post. Her MIL doesn't really deserve them.

SleafordSods · 24/01/2026 18:19

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:05

Still no support or advocacy. Have some of you never been ill?

Yes. I also have a job, ND DC and several people I have to try and look after. Sometimes I simply can’t make an appointment and they do need to use the Hospital Transport. It’s not neglectful and quite necessary in some instances.

My own DM is in her nineties and if we can’t manage to get the time off work she will book herself a taxi both ways.

The MIL in this instance is only 62. I’m close to that age myself and definitely don’t need anyone to advocate for me and hoping that continues for a long time Smile

Pepperedpickles · 24/01/2026 18:20

flirtygirl · 24/01/2026 15:51

Really sad thread.
Shows how ableist so many are.

The op clearly states that mil has a few auto immune conditions not just bad back and anxiety which may be very severe (on top of auto immune conditions) but people love to downgrade this. Auto immune conditions can be very serious, painful and tiring and she has a few.

Just because someone else can do it doesn't mean everyone can, this is why the sick and disabled are so villified in this country.

The op' mother in law could be 42 or 52 or 62, it makes no difference if she can't do it because of various illnesses and disabilities.

But carry on doing all that you can do as mentioned throughout this thread, with the statement I'm 62/64/69 and I....
Thats great for you but no reason to look down on those who cannot do these things for various reasons.

I was just about to post the same thing. Autoimmune can mean anything from thyroid issues to lupus or Addisons (life threatening). I am 45 and have multiple autoimmune issues (Addisons, lupus, thyroid issues, pituitary issues etc etc) and I haven’t been able to work since I was 32. I’m on the highest rates of PIP life long / ongoing and under 5 specialists. It really isn’t a fun existence. I’m not saying this is going to be the case here but people are so dismissive of autoimmune issues.

sammylady37 · 24/01/2026 18:22

BubblesandTiara · 24/01/2026 18:00

when you see how the average parent already struggles a lot to make the nativity or sports day, and various sport tournaments etc, in real life it really is not that easy at all.

I know on MN everyone has a cushy job, works 9 to 4, is home for tea and bath time and what-have-you, but in real life, parents struggle with after-school childcare big time, and even if supermarkets are opened until midnight, would not find it easy let alone possible to go to support their parent

Plus realistically, even if you can leave the kids to your other half in the evening, I am not sure what kind of support you actually offer if you can only come between 9 and 10pm

Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

Lots and lots of people manage to do this. And it’s only for a short time, it’s not like they’re expected to step up forever more, it’s temporary.

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:24

thepariscrimefiles · 24/01/2026 18:11

OP isn't one of her MIL's 'loved ones' though. She has never been nice to OP and has been generally unkind and dismissive and made it clear from the start that she didn't think OP was a suitable wife for her son.

It is perfectly reasonable for OP to only provide the sort of 'hands-off' care such as taxis and online food shopping that MIL is complaining about. If OP's MIL wanted the sort of relationship where her DIL would be happy to provide hands-on care in MIL's home, she should have welcomed OP into her family and been a kind and supportive MIL. She did the opposite of that so she can't expect OP to put herself out to find a few hours a week to help her out in person.

No she can’t. But it’s not unreasonable for her son to do it.

Mapleleaf114 · 24/01/2026 18:36

Enablinglocationiseasier · 24/01/2026 12:24

About a 30 min drive. She’s 62 and has a bad back, some autoimmune conditions and anxiety. We have young dc and work commitments so although not that far it’s actually not really possible to help in person.

Shes just 62??? Wth, there are people these days raising children in that age and working full time,

bad back- get shopping delivered home why waste everyones times wandering around supermarket

amazon- for anything else

hospital apps- taxis,buses, trains or patients transport

JoshLymanSwagger · 24/01/2026 18:37

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:24

No she can’t. But it’s not unreasonable for her son to do it.

Depends whether he thinks his mother has behaved badly/been unfair and that's putting it mildly to his Wife.

sittingonabeach · 24/01/2026 18:37

@Mapleleaf114 she has a carer and gets medical benefits, she is not your average 62yo

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:39

JoshLymanSwagger · 24/01/2026 18:37

Depends whether he thinks his mother has behaved badly/been unfair and that's putting it mildly to his Wife.

It shouldn’t depend on anything. She’s still his mother. She can’t be so bad if he visits her regularly.

Mapleleaf114 · 24/01/2026 18:41

Pepperedpickles · 24/01/2026 18:20

I was just about to post the same thing. Autoimmune can mean anything from thyroid issues to lupus or Addisons (life threatening). I am 45 and have multiple autoimmune issues (Addisons, lupus, thyroid issues, pituitary issues etc etc) and I haven’t been able to work since I was 32. I’m on the highest rates of PIP life long / ongoing and under 5 specialists. It really isn’t a fun existence. I’m not saying this is going to be the case here but people are so dismissive of autoimmune issues.

You can use internet amazon and get groceries delivered,literally to your kitchen, how much easier can it get

fairmaidofutopia · 24/01/2026 18:44

SIXTY TWO ??? for fucks sake, you could have 30 more years of this. I’m 62 and work , run a home , support my young adults , look after my animals including a horse .. she needs to get a grip. YADNBU

Mapleleaf114 · 24/01/2026 18:44

sittingonabeach · 24/01/2026 18:37

@Mapleleaf114 she has a carer and gets medical benefits, she is not your average 62yo

Thats what carer and pip is for, when shes surting down with bad back she can still make online groceries order and delivery guy will happily take it all the way to her kitchen

sittingonabeach · 24/01/2026 18:45

@fairmaidofutopia do you have a carer, get PIP?

Mapleleaf114 · 24/01/2026 18:49

sittingonabeach · 24/01/2026 18:45

@fairmaidofutopia do you have a carer, get PIP?

Thats the point,she has a carer and gets pip, she can use pip to hire extra help for whatever hours a week

ai diseases are sooo common these days and most people will still have to go to work and raise children and so on, bad back- another common condition, who wants to wander around supermarket with an aching back? Surely the more reason to make use of amazon and online grocery orders?

BIossomtoes · 24/01/2026 18:51

She hasn’t got a carer at the moment because her carer is having surgery. That’s the entire premise of the OP.

Cornishclio · 24/01/2026 18:53

My mum is 90 and more independent than that. She does her own shopping, unless weather awful as she likes to get out but she does still drive locally. She can do online shopping. She has a cleaner and can call for a taxi as she doesn’t get on with apps but can use a laptop and iPad. I think given it is an hours round trip, you have work and DC paying for these things is kind but I kind of get why she is struggling if not used to it. I live 250 miles away from my mum but my brother or sister usually take her to hospital appointments. We have her come and stay here for a week once or twice a year and we visit her about three times. Company is often what elderly people crave although as I am 65 I would not count your MIL as elderly. Maybe going over on the weekend to take her shopping might be kind. Your DH should do that.

Nanny0gg · 24/01/2026 19:04

BubblesandTiara · 24/01/2026 15:26

Your priority should be your CHILDREN anyway. You are doing your job and putting your children first. On top of that, you are helping your MIL a lot, more than the minimum, it's already generous.

It would be mean to abandon her, but you are not. You are not stopping her from arranging anything she wants, but you are offering solutions if she's not doing things herself as she should You are doing more than enough.

It's for the OP's husband to do, not the OP

Sensiblesal · 24/01/2026 19:13

BubblesandTiara · 24/01/2026 15:32

the cheek 😂

expecting someone with a normally busy family life to drop everything and come clean your house, for free, because you refuse to do it, refuse to arrange for someone else to do , and refuse to accept the professional cleaner they are paying for?

Having a very big opinion of yourself and wanting to feel like you can order people around, have you?😂

and that's just ONE example of what the OP described.

Not saying she should drop everything but one visit a month & they live fairly close. Having to step up for a week & help a family member even if its just hubby popping in for an hr after work whilst his sister is away would be nice. Hell even have her stay as a guest for a week or two

the OP even said she was throwing money at it, instead of care/compassion & thats fine she can do that but that still her husbands mum & she doesn’t sound in a good way

I am much younger than the MiL & had some recent back issues, my god I would have killed for someone to come clean/pay for a cleaner but then I don’t have anxiety so it wouldn’t have bothered me a stranger coming in.

not about telling people what to do, I just feel there is so much hatred towards family members on this forum & treating them like less than family, I find it very strange. Seems people have no tolerance anymore

Changingtimes81 · 24/01/2026 19:38

Sensiblesal · 24/01/2026 19:13

Not saying she should drop everything but one visit a month & they live fairly close. Having to step up for a week & help a family member even if its just hubby popping in for an hr after work whilst his sister is away would be nice. Hell even have her stay as a guest for a week or two

the OP even said she was throwing money at it, instead of care/compassion & thats fine she can do that but that still her husbands mum & she doesn’t sound in a good way

I am much younger than the MiL & had some recent back issues, my god I would have killed for someone to come clean/pay for a cleaner but then I don’t have anxiety so it wouldn’t have bothered me a stranger coming in.

not about telling people what to do, I just feel there is so much hatred towards family members on this forum & treating them like less than family, I find it very strange. Seems people have no tolerance anymore

It's sad 😥