To feel very sorry for Vicky B

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Yes, we don’t know the full story, but so many things being said about the dance story being untrue-they had already had their dance, she’d also danced with her father, Vb was reportedly called onto the stage by her friend, Marc A and was shy to do so. She comes across as a very awkward, sad person, David seems to dislike her and speak down to her. I can imagine she must be devastated and so humiliated by this. No matter the issues, Brooklyn shouldn’t have issued the problems publicly.
I know a lot about issues with Mil’s but my instinct tells me that this could be her and perhaps she has been difficult from the start. She doesn’t have a reputation for being a nice person at all, even before all this and it’s been said there may have been similar situations in the past with an ex of hers.
In comparison, I’ve never seen anyone say a bad word about Vb, the opposite in fact, she seems to have a great relationship with all her other children and the partners, plus a good relationship with Db’s family
She just must feel so devastated and humiliated, your first born that you held in your arms as a baby.

All so sad

VB was too controlling in planning NB: leaked wedding texts for evidence.

VB then upset the running order of the wedding with this dance. NP did not get her day her way hence vow renewal.

Possibly something came up which alerted BB to potential conflicts of interest etc when he sat down with Peltz family legal team.

Perhaps the USA lawyers felt he was open to exploitation/not in a strong position & were aghast at the previous set up. He in turn was horrified & things escalated.

Hotel California, hopefully not prophetic ‘you can check out any time you like but you can never leave’…

He enjoys the public eye, surely, hence cooking videos etc (?)

everyone seems to be calling it abuse

I think this may well play a part, especially as VB perhaps interrupted the wedding order with this dance & BB’s statement a reflection of NP’s righteous anger in this regard (?)

NP didn’t seem to happy with any VB interference at planning stage.

I always thought they were Jewish.

David Beckham has a Jewish grandmother

In an interview Beckham gave at St John’s Wood Synagogue about his Jewish heritage he said “I am part of the Jewish community and I am proud to say it,”

Abuse (?) He’s chosen to do it, surely (?) Especially more recently with NP at his side.

New to MN. That word is from online hearsay articles therefore I agree with you re using it. Id like to edit it to cuddle/hug but unsure if editing is possible?

I dont personally live on social media, in fact apart from this and whatsapp I havent really got any, the odd facebook group Im in but I dont 'post' things as such

But many people do, it seems how they live their lives, even on here you get threads where someone is upset becuase of a post about a birthday, or a wedding or no post about a birthday etc etc etc

Its the norm for some people

So if they dont do that, they dont do their norm. Why shouldnt they do their norm? (as odd as I find it)

Well she certainly got a large front page reaction to the Christmas post, now all the minions are pushing her ridiculous 2001 song to number 1. As long as it was worth the effort.

I didnt know she had any songs.

I feel more empathy towards Brooklyn than V&D. There were constant comments about him being "under the thumb" of Nicola, and ungrateful for cutting off his parents. I can see why he'd want to put his side of the story out there.
His parents have paraded him out there for all to see. They have even got a bloody trademark on his name, like he's a commodity !! Plenty of famous people manage to easily keep their kids out of the spotlight. They however chose to made a brand out of the 'perfect family' which is not fair on the kids.

I do, however feel that its a bit unfair that Victoria got the brunt of it rather than both parents, especially given the known infidelities of David.

Lucky you. That song and her "singing" were abysmal 25 years ago and time has not been any kinder to either.

I've posted this on another thread.

“Being the child of a celebrity is not privilege – it’s pre-ownership,” says PR guru Mark Borkowski. “From birth, your name is metadata. Your adolescence is content. Your mistakes are monetised by strangers and quietly risk-managed by family advisers. You grow up fluent in exposure but illiterate in autonomy. By the time you’re old enough to choose, the brand has already been chosen for you.”
And they are doing it now with Cruz and his music.
Hiku By Harper has been filed under an application by H7B Ltd. So Harper is being directed into the very lucrative teen skin care business.

And some bride's are quite frankly stone mad on their wedding day, so any little hiccup could have thrown NP into a meltdown. Not to mention the daughter of a daddy's girl, billionaire!

MIL likes a bit of limelight too and bang, a perfect storm! 😁

It's all a bit mad but also sad for the parent and son relationship.

Obviously, we have no idea what the name conversation was before he got married, but it’s not unusual that they would’ve trademarked his name at birth, if only for the reason that it stops somebody else from doing it.

Lol!!!

Yes I think this trademarking was probably more a protective action by V and D than the way people are spinning it. And they might have had defensible reasons about the name business before marriage.

I agree with @VanessaSanessa that the current dramas seem to stem from a clash between the two women with BB caught between. I'm not even sure he wasn't instructed to state how badly behaved VB was at the wedding and that he didn't enjoy his dance with VB. Of course we cannot know, but it seems an odd thing to make such an aggressive statement about if it was just yer old mum being a bit mad after a celebratory champagne. Not exonerating her if it was inappropriate: she's old enough to behave and stay dignified, but then going public kind of defeats the point about dignity, which is why I can't help but feel it was being decried for a different reason. It smacked a bit of a power jostle between those two. He didn't really even reference his dad directly.

We can't know any of this of course, but I think its quite possible it is a case of BB backed into a corner. That doesn't mean it's always women at the heart of things etc etc, blame the women, but to me the gripes just didn't sound like they were stored up from years of anguish but rather focused on the wedding day and that phase of his life.

I also think the comments are a bit unkind about NPB marrying him for publicity. She may love him; it's a bit unkind to them both to simply sidestep that possibility as not even within consideration.

Anyway, I hope for all of them its settles down and they all take wiser decisions going forward.

@Seebothsides60 The words the papers are using are nuzzling and “grinding”. Sounds a bit grim either way.

Neither terms published by Brooklyn himself.

It seems this dance devastated him & humiliated him personally beyond anything in his life to date. If we take him at his word.

He would have known the speculation that ‘inappropriate’ and ‘dancing on me’ would result in. I think that’s what’s sad, he could have left that out entirely and not weakened his message. But he chose to use those words.

Idk I think the Peltz family look way creepier and controlling than the Beckhams.

Aha yes, he is Jewish via his maternal grandfather. Making the poster's theory even less likely...!

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=blogs.timesofisrael.com/is-british-soccer-icon-david-beckham-jewish/&ved=2ahUKEwjF9KfW7p-SAxXGWEEAHY7qHQIQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw2TVD4hLbSaBCbhHOG4vdzi

Just my musings: I wonder if the crux of the matter is the Beckham name & money.
Although the Peltz family are billionaires they are not known worldwide unlike Elon Musk, Bill Gates etc whereas the Beckham name is known world wide & has social media clout which brings in the money, just like the Kardashian name does too.

Now say that Brooklyn & Nicola were informed that as Mrs Beckham she couldn't trade/utilise under the name Beckham as it's trademarked etc.
And then there's also a bit of a similar problem using Peltz-Beckham as a business name.
Perhaps Nelson Peltz wasn't entirely happy about that either & tried to find ways round it but failed & thus was furious perhaps?

Hence two families falling out and as typical the women being blamed for it.
Especially Victoria as I expect she refused to jump when told to.
Most billionaire patriarchs would not be happy with being refused.

Money might be power but it also doesn't let you get your own way all of the time.

Although I'm also sure that it has been hard for Brooklyn growing up in the public eye too.