To feel very sorry for Vicky B

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Yes, we don’t know the full story, but so many things being said about the dance story being untrue-they had already had their dance, she’d also danced with her father, Vb was reportedly called onto the stage by her friend, Marc A and was shy to do so. She comes across as a very awkward, sad person, David seems to dislike her and speak down to her. I can imagine she must be devastated and so humiliated by this. No matter the issues, Brooklyn shouldn’t have issued the problems publicly.
I know a lot about issues with Mil’s but my instinct tells me that this could be her and perhaps she has been difficult from the start. She doesn’t have a reputation for being a nice person at all, even before all this and it’s been said there may have been similar situations in the past with an ex of hers.
In comparison, I’ve never seen anyone say a bad word about Vb, the opposite in fact, she seems to have a great relationship with all her other children and the partners, plus a good relationship with Db’s family
She just must feel so devastated and humiliated, your first born that you held in your arms as a baby.

All so sad

Yes, exactly.

It’s really not as uncommon as people imagine & there might be a medical reason if so that’s none of our business.

I remember Kate Winslet, who has a reputation for straight talking honesty, apparently/allegedly talking about her first (?) labour & it was in fact a C section via top consultant. Another evil inauthentic mother or someone who had her reasons if so?

she does 😂, inappropriately dressed but healthy and happy!

yeah we’ll see a change there for sure 😪

When you analyse what BB wrote and take out anything to do with NP there isn’t really anything else there.

Honestly if all you have to complain about is your parents embarrassed you or pissed off your wife to be (intentional or not) then you need to grow up.

At some point you have to become responsible for your own life. And you can’t complain that you weren’t happy about growing up with the Beckham name if you then have been using it to open doors for you

Oh I hope so ...!

Ohh I know of trinny and suzannah - will have to google, obsessed with the idea of them beefing 😂😂

Well you think you havent

But being old, I concur with the poster further back about social mores, parenting advice, the thresholds for what is 'abuse' has changed over time and will continue to change

I read posts where posters are quite smug about their own parenting and comparing that to the bad old days of their parents or grandparents, who equally thought they were doing the best for their kids and were being reasonable.

And I think I hope you all dont get a horrible shock

It’s really not as uncommon as people imagine & there might be a medical reason if so that’s none of our business.

Well you'd kind of hope that after having three she'd leave it at that if there was a medical reason that she shouldn't go through another pregnancy!

Has anyone mentioned that Brooklyn’s ex Talia storm had ‘broken her silence’ saying that Victoria never liked her and that she’s team Brooklyn

just the kind of endorsement that he needs eh

Yup that was me. And I agree with you agreeing with me!

A few parents are awful; the majority try hard and are criticised by upcoming generations for their shortcomings, which may not be as short as the shortcomings their own dc will identify in them.

Tallia actually assumes VB didn’t like her but the beef was really that she was uninvited from the ‘Global Gift Gala’ on the night itself when she was already at the venue. BB said, acc to The Sun ‘My Mum won’t let me come I’m sorry’.

Makes VB sound controlling but maybe BB in trouble at home - he was only about 16 - or he didn’t fancy it. Who knows (?)

Just saw a picture of Cruz with his girlfriend, she looks like his mother!! There's a strange dynamic there too.

Well I know I haven’t done anything to merit my kids going NC with me. I think people can know that. It doesn’t mean they won’t go NC but it won’t be merited in a rational way,

I have one like this. I'll ask her to unload the dishwasher, 10 mins later I'll remind her and then she'll shout at me. I ask her to stop shouting and she says you were shouting at me - when I clearly wasn't. She recollects things completely differently to everyone else sometimes. She is ND with high levels of anxiety and some aggressive/violent behaviours. It has improved slightly as she has grown up but it is still treading on egg shells.
I don't think they'll be a big future blow-up/NC as we love her and try hard not to provoke her and have worked hard to understand her triggers but it might happen if she is aggrieved with something and then she would seek to bring as many people on side as possible. Being right and justified is important to her.
I don't know if that is BB and I'm sure its not all people that go NC with their families but some certainly.

Mum’s dancing being the worst thing in life endured to date & this public humiliation really brings this home. Others there now saying apparently akin to Amanda’s Motherland dance - if so - that’s just Mum after a few ill advised wines. Embarrassing as it might be, it’s not facing tragedy.

The expression "danced ON me" had me a bit 🤔

I have a teen like this. It’s especially strange the accusation of shouting and being aggressive if I am
asking him something more than once in completely calm manner. I have to have witnesses to interact at times. I don’t know where this comes from, but I recognise the blowing things into all proportions mentality.

I find it very hard to believe. Her behaviour is usually so “performance” and controlled. Would she really have let herself go at an event like this ? I doubt it tbh and think it might be a recollections might vary situation.

I think as a few have apparently confirmed the dancing we can poss assume true. Booze to blame? Poss a very tense day esp if beef with NP. NP’s leaked wedding texts were all very ‘don’t tell Victoria’…

Apparently NP did not want BB to dance with Mum at all. If so, we can draw our own conclusions about this episode. Who pushed for the vow renewal on their terms?

This is starting to look like a MIL problem…
Should have come to MN for some advice!

Rebecca Loos is quite definitely on Brooklyn’s side. That’s a woman with the inside track.

I don't feel sorry for her per se, but I do think Brooklyn is being a bit of a nob.

Both David and Victoria had their own successful careers, him a footballer and her part of the spice girls. So they didn't just become this power couple from nowhere (like reality "stars" might for example). She later pursued a fashion career which isn't easy to be taken seriously in as by the sounds of it, it's a very snobby world.

Brooklyn, yes he was brought up in the limelight, should they have exposed him as much as they did? Probably not. But he took advantage of a life with absolute privilege with every opportunity and door opened for him. Unfortunately for him he was just really good at anything in particular and sort of floated from one idea to the next never really making anything of it and I think that's the problem: he has grown up with all the wealth and opportunity out there but never did anything with it. His personality (at least publicly) is bland, his looks are average at best. So to have parents where your mum made something of herself with limited talent singing wise and your dad is a famous footballer with good looks it must be a hard act to follow, especially when they got together and created a super brand!

Then he met Nicola and no doubt adores her. But he needs to remember he is actually of no relevance fame wise other than being the beckhams son and threw away every opportunity given to him. Plenty of kids who have famous parents go on to have successful careers but he's just coming across as whinging. His lack of success from what I have seen over the years is he's just an average guy with no real talent, charisma or personality and as said very average in looks. He could have just lived a quiet life with his wife, not spoken to his family and gone on to have a family of his own.

It had me a bit 🤢.

Or Farage for that matter.

There is rather a lot of past tense being used in this post - especially given he is only 26 ...

And fwiw I think he is better looking than his brothers, since you've raised looks.