To feel very sorry for Vicky B

[Stayinitstoocold]

Yes, we don’t know the full story, but so many things being said about the dance story being untrue-they had already had their dance, she’d also danced with her father, Vb was reportedly called onto the stage by her friend, Marc A and was shy to do so. She comes across as a very awkward, sad person, David seems to dislike her and speak down to her. I can imagine she must be devastated and so humiliated by this. No matter the issues, Brooklyn shouldn’t have issued the problems publicly.
I know a lot about issues with Mil’s but my instinct tells me that this could be her and perhaps she has been difficult from the start. She doesn’t have a reputation for being a nice person at all, even before all this and it’s been said there may have been similar situations in the past with an ex of hers.
In comparison, I’ve never seen anyone say a bad word about Vb, the opposite in fact, she seems to have a great relationship with all her other children and the partners, plus a good relationship with Db’s family
She just must feel so devastated and humiliated, your first born that you held in your arms as a baby.

All so sad

Isolate her bf from his family

Don’t follow closely enough to remember but pretty sure at least one previous relationship had her bf going NC with his family. Could be others.

That wasn’t her, it was a fan account

Both sides are absolutely loving all the publicity. It's probably all staged anyway. Otherwise, both sides would just keep their heads down and stop releasing shit to the press to keep stirring it up. It's pathetic, but that's how these celebs work - if they're not in the news, they're not happy. There's far more important stuff going on in the world than a woman who doesn't get on with her inlaws, yet most tabloid websites have multiple articles on this awful family every single day.

We can do without the anti-semitism, thanks though.

I saw something on Insta on Brooklyn showcasing his many designer watches worth thousands, his parents have bought him many including a rare Patek Philippe. His mother in law adding to his collection with a matching Cartier set for him & NP.

He seems a nice enough lad but this seemed very unwise, tone deaf & highlights how his parents have showered him with gifts & money. Possibly he was being paid (product placement) as I reflect (?) by Rolex etc but I don’t think so.

I’m not a Beckham 😊

I haven't read the whole thread cos I can't be arsed (least I'm honest).

But just in case someone else hasn't already said it. The Vogue coverage of the wedding has resurfaced, which confirms that Brooklyn and his wife had their first dance (Elvis Presley, Can't Help Falling in Love). They DID have their first dance, as planned.

Brooklyn himself has confirmed this in a later social media story on their honeymoon where the song was playing and he said to Nicola "it's our wedding dance song on our honeymoon" (or something similar).

Witnesses also confirmed that he had his first dance with his wife, and then later at approx 11pm, Marc Anthony started performing one of his songs and Brooklyn called VB up to dance with her. He called HER up for the dance.

Absolutely nothing like the rhetoric he's trying to spew now.

Shouldn't tell lies when there are literal witnesses who can discount what you're saying.

It's interesting re the 'posh' image as in her autobio (written around the Spice Girl years) she stresses her working class roots (I think.
.I peeked a while ago as I wanted to see what she said about Corey Haim, it's possible I'm misremembering).

If Brooklyn has converted to Judaism, he has also entered a different culture.Many years ago, I worked as an au pair in a Jewish family and was taken aback when I was introduced to the concept of being a gentile (never heard the term before) and that as Jewish people, they were ‘the chosen people’. It was a big culture shock for me at the time.I remember thinking how misinformed that sounded, but that belief was stronger and more powerful than me. Very easy to get swept along in a greater forces ambition, when they know what they want, when you don’t know what you want, or who you are yet.

• this is a rather odd comment. Religious Jewish people do believe that God chose them for a special spiritual task but this does not entail 'Gentile' people being inferior. Judaism specifically teaches that those non-Jews who follow the 7 Noachide laws have a share in the World To Come.

If your family had nasty beliefs about non Jews then that's them being unpleasant, not a reflection on Jews or Judaism as a whole.

Are you implying the Peltz family are encouraging Brooklyn to see the Beckhams as inferior due to being Gentiles? That seems a wild stretch- and yes, anti Semitic.

They did deals. There was no way the press weren't going to have photos of the Beckham children, so the deal was they get photoshoots and tips on where/when they can grab a planned 'candid' shot or two. In return, they don't use long-distance lenses to spy on the family doing normal things at home, school, on holiday, etc.

It's been this way for ages. All celebs and royals do it. It's much better than being stalked & spied on absolutely everywhere. The press only started blurring kids' faces very recently, and that in itself wouldn't stop them sneaking unauthorised pictures.

Re the brand... I guess I'm struggling to see WHY they are such a big brand now in the first place.

I'm Gen Z born in 2000s, maybe that's why.. I know the Spice Girls were big but that was back in the early 2000s getting on for 30 years ago. I know Beckham was a famous footballer but he's been retired for 13 years. Is her fashion brand that big?

Maybe that's the issue. Since they haven't been doing what they became famous for doing for a long time, the focus shifted to their personal life

My mum was forced to go to church services : I think calling that controlling is a real reach.

Found this. British Vogue, 2022.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/inside-brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-wedding-derek-blasberg

And the other bit ...

Ooh, VERY interesting.

Innit!

A great find 👏 @GarlicSound

Good work @GarlicSound

So do I - and so does my Aunt.

Humping????? You sure????

First couple dance to Elvis "I cant help falling in love" was few hours previous to the impromptu mum/son dance.

11pm at your sons wedding and you cant let your hair down when the MC calls you up onto the dancefloor to dance with your son?

Oh and god forbid you nuzzle in for a sentimental cuddle with your first born as its been a long and quite overwhelming day!!

Jealousy towards the MIL appears more likely to me.

Nuzzle in? On your adult child?

they’re like the kardashians are to the Americans. They were papped more than the royal family. It was a different culture back then and people where obsessed

Hopefully I won't offend anyone here but could there be a clash of cultures between the Beckham's and the Peltz's?

I've met many Americans socially over the years, particularly at weddings and I know sometimes that in social situations they don't get our humour, general carry on. Perhaps they found the Beckham's a little less formal then they are used to and judge them for it?

Yes, true it was more the press than social media so it's not like Brooklyn would have continually been forced to be in the public eye.

Presumably, the reason he's upset about the name ownership is precisely because he will NOT seek a private existence but will really continue to try to hone his social media following.

Going NC is, I understand, more common among the younger generations and also in the modelling/celeb/media world. Just read today the most common reasons for estrangement is abuse (in the 'real' sense), cultural/norms/views and disagreements with partners/in-laws. People now say why should we stand for it, we don't agree with their values/views but it's very polarised.

Individuals with depressive/anxious and/or ND tendencies just sees the world very differently from other people - i.e. more negatively and tend to have an external locus of control that when they are under pressure, they tend to blame others for their misfortunes or their disease.

I also always find it astounding that on Mumsnet it seems it is ALWAYS the parents' 'fault', never the children.

Of course statistically it can't be true that only parents are 'narcs' (I really deplore that word and the overuse of it). Children can be too.