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Mixed sex changing rooms?

367 replies

Whatschanged · 19/01/2026 10:26

Has something changed in society around changing/fitting rooms in shops or have I just had two unusual incidents? Or am I being ridiculous?!

A couple of weeks ago I was in the adult men’s section of Next with my 13 year old son, he needed to try on some jeans, a very tall but slim lad, so definitely doesn’t fit in the children’s section anymore. Men’s is upstairs with the homeware, women’s and kids downstairs, both floors have changing rooms. He went in to try them on and I waited completely outside by the lifts. While I was waiting an adult woman walked in the changing rooms to try something on, I was quite surprised, and gave her an odd look (very British of me, sorry) but she blanked me. I thought, well it’s not the end of the world but I’d be a bit more shocked at a grown man going in the changing room downstairs next to the women's clothes when my 13 year old daughter was in their alone (I don't have daughters though).

This weekend I was in M&S, women’s and children’s clothing downstairs, and there is a fitting room, women’s underwear and men’s clothing and cafe upstairs, there is a fitting room by the men’s clothes and a fitting room my the women’s underwear. I went in the fitting rooms by the women’s underwear to try some bras on, and there was a lady loitering around the cubicles, when I got in I heard what I presume was a little boys voice, perhaps about 6 years old and a grown mans voice (could have been an older teenager or a fully grown man, I never saw them, but a broken, older mans voice). The ‘man’ was helping the ‘boy’ with the clothes and the woman was outside the cubicle asking how it was going etc. I was really surprised, why wasn’t the grown man with the boy in the men’s changing room? Or why wasn’t the woman (presume mum) in there with him?! I was there with my boobs out, what if I wanted a fitting? M&S has lockable doors but Next it’s just curtains.

So I just thought perhaps something has changed and now people just wonder in whatever fitting room they fancy, or is this a bit weird?

YANBU – men should go in men’s, women in women’s, children that require assistance should go in whatever changing room matches the adult.

YABU – stop being so precious, you’re normally in individual locked cubicles anyway so what on earth does it matter!

OP posts:
TheKeatingFive · 19/01/2026 13:14

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:09

No just telling you that you’re wrong and you calling trans women “men” wasn’t as clever as you thought it was. Trans women are 0.1% of the population. But you keep on harassing them 👍.

Why do you think biological facts are 'harassment'?

LlynTegid · 19/01/2026 13:15

dizzydizzydizzy · 19/01/2026 13:00

This is the no win situation for the shop.

I used to work on a leisure centre which has single sex changing rooms. From 8 years old, children were supposed to go in the changing room corresponding to their sex.

We had constant complains from mothers of 10 and 11yo boys who were insistent that they had to take them into the ladies. Many mothers disregarded this rule and took their sons into the ladies so we also had constant complaints from women who liked to have naked showers and didn't want to have 10 or 11 boys watching them.

I assume this is why most swimming pools have mixed sex changing.

No leisure centres have mixed changing rooms to reduce the number of staff on duty they need. A result of the outsourcing of leisure services.

The answer to the 10 and 11 year old boys who allegedly cannot change without parental supervision is the third space changing. Which can be used by others such as those who have transgendered, and those who have medical conditions which they understandably wish for more privacy.

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:15

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/01/2026 13:13

Why does ‘thinking it’s clever’ come into it. Trans women are men. It’s just a fact.

I’m treating that ill informed comment with the contempt it deserves and will no longer reply to you.

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:16

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 12:55

Yes and to highlight that she uses a derogatory term for women 🤦‍♀️

Is pickme derogatory for women who support the sexual abuse of other women?

lifeturnsonadime · 19/01/2026 13:16

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:09

No just telling you that you’re wrong and you calling trans women “men” wasn’t as clever as you thought it was. Trans women are 0.1% of the population. But you keep on harassing them 👍.

What's the difference between a trans woman and any other man that makes it appropriate for the trans woman to enter single sex spaces reserved for women?

latetothefisting · 19/01/2026 13:17

Peonies12 · 19/01/2026 10:44

Who cares, you’re behind a locked door. I just never shop in person, it’s so boring!

Did you read the OP?
Have you ever been to a shop?
Lots of places just have curtains rather than a door. You can't lock a curtain.

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:18

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:14

So you and him both being a grown adult means that he is choosing the option of not going into what should be a woman only single sex space?

It’s a cubicle ffs 🤣

ScrollingLeaves · 19/01/2026 13:19

Whatschanged · 19/01/2026 10:40

Wow, thanks for that. So it has changed, how bizarre! I'm not a fan of this!

I didn't get fitted as last time it was useless although she was very lovely lady. I actually managed to find the best fitting bra I've had in 10 years though!

Re M&S It is so as to be ‘inclusive’ of men (males) who are trying to live as though they are women - part of the so-called “LGBTQ+ Community”.

It is virtue signalling following from faulty advice given to places like M&S over the last 10 years by Stonewall (or others like them) which misinterpreted the law about the Equality Act and Gender Recognition Act - telling them ( wrongly) that males who identify women must be allowed into women’s single sex spaces such as bra fitting rooms.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/01/2026 13:19

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HagsRule · 19/01/2026 13:19

upstairsdownstairscardboardbox · 19/01/2026 12:28

I don't go in M&S anymore. I was told breastfeeding in the cafe was 'making customers uncomfortable" - an old man who'd taken a photo of me and been asked by DH to delete it which prompted his complaint. Then the pervert reviews of knickers which they refused to take down and finally letting men in the bra fitting changing rooms. They seem to have forgotten who their customer is again.

What are the pervert reviews of knickers you are talking about? I knew m&s were letting men into the bra fitting so I don't go to their changing rooms or bra fittings anymore, but hadn't heard about this?

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:20

LlynTegid · 19/01/2026 13:15

No leisure centres have mixed changing rooms to reduce the number of staff on duty they need. A result of the outsourcing of leisure services.

The answer to the 10 and 11 year old boys who allegedly cannot change without parental supervision is the third space changing. Which can be used by others such as those who have transgendered, and those who have medical conditions which they understandably wish for more privacy.

So what about family cubicles? The ones I used all the time with my sons?

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:20

cinquanta · 19/01/2026 12:58

I sometimes take mine in with me, and vice versa.

Is this ^ not where you add the assurance that he is nice and other women should just know that he would never even dream of ignoring their consent?

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:22

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:16

Is pickme derogatory for women who support the sexual abuse of other women?

Name one.

lifeturnsonadime · 19/01/2026 13:23

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:15

I’m treating that ill informed comment with the contempt it deserves and will no longer reply to you.

How is knowing that trans women are men ill informed?

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:24

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Yet here you are. Had to reply as you’re so funny. 🤣 Last one though. 👍

LlynTegid · 19/01/2026 13:24

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:20

So what about family cubicles? The ones I used all the time with my sons?

That is a third space of sorts. Not all leisure centres have them though.

dizzydizzydizzy · 19/01/2026 13:24

LlynTegid · 19/01/2026 13:15

No leisure centres have mixed changing rooms to reduce the number of staff on duty they need. A result of the outsourcing of leisure services.

The answer to the 10 and 11 year old boys who allegedly cannot change without parental supervision is the third space changing. Which can be used by others such as those who have transgendered, and those who have medical conditions which they understandably wish for more privacy.

Having a mixed sex changing room will have little to no impact on staffing. It is mostly lifeguards that clean the changing rooms and the number of lifeguards you need is determined by the size and type of pool and what sessions are booked. Lifeguards clean when they are taking a break from lifeguarding because they are not allowed to supervise the pool for more than 90 minutes.

cinquanta · 19/01/2026 13:25

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:11

It is women who support sex crimes against women.

Not being bothered about mixed sex changing rooms is a sex crime now?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/01/2026 13:26

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:24

Yet here you are. Had to reply as you’re so funny. 🤣 Last one though. 👍

Yet here YOU are. Not as funny as denying trans women are men 🤣.

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:27

LlynTegid · 19/01/2026 13:24

That is a third space of sorts. Not all leisure centres have them though.

It’s not a third space. They are just bigger cubicles in the communal changing area. Of every single sports centre I have been in.

ThatCraftySquid · 19/01/2026 13:27

cinquanta · 19/01/2026 13:25

Not being bothered about mixed sex changing rooms is a sex crime now?

only in some very bitter people's head, I wouldn't worry too much.
Thankfully we don't have to put up with them too much in real life 😂

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:29

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/01/2026 13:26

Yet here YOU are. Not as funny as denying trans women are men 🤣.

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You

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/01/2026 13:30

Differentforgirls · 19/01/2026 13:29

You

62 years old you say? Hmmm.

cinquanta · 19/01/2026 13:30

AnSolas · 19/01/2026 13:20

Is this ^ not where you add the assurance that he is nice and other women should just know that he would never even dream of ignoring their consent?

There’s no need to add any assurance.

Ignoring other women’s consent to what? Him accompanying me into a mixed sex changing room?

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