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West Midlands Police Chief Constable Should beSacked......

190 replies

Ablondiebutagoody · 14/01/2026 15:43

..... for using fake evidence to justify the ban on Jewish fans from the Aston Villa v Maccabi Tel Aviv match last year. When in reality, the threat was towards those fans from local anti-semites and he just couldn't be arsed to protect them.

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callmej · 18/01/2026 20:54

BundleBoogie · 18/01/2026 09:25

I guess part of the problem with the PCC being an elected position is that the Muslim community has a huge amount of voting power to choose their preferred PCC. While I’m sure much of the Birmingham Muslim community are wishing to live gracefully alongside all other groups (Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, atheists), there seem to be some very powerful extremists who gave taken charge.

Given the evidence found of electoral fraud and coercion being at its highest in communities of Pakistani or Bangladeshi Muslims, it seems that the extremists will prevail.

Unless the government steps in and changes something significant, this will just get worse. The government seems to be in denial.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0261379417300811

From the article:

Abstract
Several reports have highlighted that, within Britain, allegations of electoral fraud tend to be more common in areas with large Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities. However, the extent of this association has not yet been quantified. Using data at the local authority level, this paper shows that percentage Pakistani and Bangladeshi (logged) is a robust predictor of two measures of electoral fraud allegations: one based on designations by the Electoral Commission, and one based on police enquiries. Indeed, the association persists after controlling for other minority shares, demographic characteristics, socio-economic deprivation, and anti-immigration attitudes. I interpret this finding with reference to the growing literature on consanguinity (cousin marriage) and corruption. Rates of cousin marriage tend to be high in countries such as Pakistan and Bangladesh, which may have fostered norms of nepotism and in-group favoritism that persist over time. To bolster my interpretation, I use individual level survey data to show that, within Europe, migrants from countries with high rates of cousin marriage are more likely to say that family should be one's main priority in life, and are less likely to say it is wrong for a public official to request a bribe.

Interesting:

NHS midwives told there is ‘benefit’ in marriage between cousins

"Official midwifery guidance, used for teaching, branded concerns about the risks of congenital diseases, or birth defects, “exaggerated” and “unwarranted” because 85 to 90 per cent of cousin couples “do not have affected children”. The national average rate for children born without congenital diseases is 98 per cent.

"The guidance did admit there were some “risks to child health associated with close relative marriage” but claimed they should be “balanced against the potential benefits”.

"Marrying a relative can offer “economic benefits” as well as “emotional and social connections” and “social capital”, advice in the NHS document said."

I certainly don't think this is the only issue though! I don't believe the bad actors are spreading their influence only to their relatives, I personally think the problem is the very notion of 'communities', where community means segregated and culturally foreign. They're not all related by blood, they are related by culture.

But no idea what at this point can be done to unravel it all. It's been pretty evident this was a growing problem for at least a couple of decades, and it's probably realistically too late to stop it now. To be honest I think we just to have to accept that some of our cities are now Islamic self-rule, and hopefully try and learn how to stop others joining them.

NHS midwives told there is ‘benefit’ in marriage between cousins

Guidance acknowledged there were ‘risks to child health’ but also argued the close familial union could bring ‘economic benefits’

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/nhs-guidance-cousin-marriages-ht6txv2zv

Staringintothevoid616 · 18/01/2026 22:15

BundleBoogie · 18/01/2026 13:52

That’s awful that you don’t feel safe in broad daylight. The trouble is, these groups have been given so much power it’s going to be really hard to roll that back. It will also take a government with a serious determination to sort it and Starmer’s government clearly has not got that will. Look at Jess Phillips hobbling the rape gangs inquiry for her 44% Muslim constituency. The longer it goes on, the worse it’s going to be to sort.

We are even being warned by moderate Muslims who know what’s coming.

It’s an absolute mess, it really is. Yes we need to be listening to the moderate Muslims, many of whom have escaped regimes that the Islamists in this country would love to see come to fruition in this country. People need to be looking seriously at Iran -that’s what many Islamists would like here..

The further Islamists and their enablers are allowed to further their agenda the harder the push back will eventually come and be more and more punitive against the ordinary Muslim population unfortunately

Kingscallops · 18/01/2026 22:48

Staringintothevoid616 · 18/01/2026 22:15

It’s an absolute mess, it really is. Yes we need to be listening to the moderate Muslims, many of whom have escaped regimes that the Islamists in this country would love to see come to fruition in this country. People need to be looking seriously at Iran -that’s what many Islamists would like here..

The further Islamists and their enablers are allowed to further their agenda the harder the push back will eventually come and be more and more punitive against the ordinary Muslim population unfortunately

The moderate Muslims are too scared to speak up.

BundleBoogie · 19/01/2026 12:24

callmej · 18/01/2026 20:54

Interesting:

NHS midwives told there is ‘benefit’ in marriage between cousins

"Official midwifery guidance, used for teaching, branded concerns about the risks of congenital diseases, or birth defects, “exaggerated” and “unwarranted” because 85 to 90 per cent of cousin couples “do not have affected children”. The national average rate for children born without congenital diseases is 98 per cent.

"The guidance did admit there were some “risks to child health associated with close relative marriage” but claimed they should be “balanced against the potential benefits”.

"Marrying a relative can offer “economic benefits” as well as “emotional and social connections” and “social capital”, advice in the NHS document said."

I certainly don't think this is the only issue though! I don't believe the bad actors are spreading their influence only to their relatives, I personally think the problem is the very notion of 'communities', where community means segregated and culturally foreign. They're not all related by blood, they are related by culture.

But no idea what at this point can be done to unravel it all. It's been pretty evident this was a growing problem for at least a couple of decades, and it's probably realistically too late to stop it now. To be honest I think we just to have to accept that some of our cities are now Islamic self-rule, and hopefully try and learn how to stop others joining them.

Oh wow! So the NHS are arguing in support of a practice that causes 10-15% of babies to have serious congenital abnormalities compared with a national level of 2%!!

For comparison, approximately 10% of mothers who drink alcohol to excess while pregnant will have a baby with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome. Obviously more babies are negatively affected on the broader FASD spectrum but that may compare with the more minor congenital abnormalities cause by repeated first cousin marriage that are not counted in the figure above which only count serious, life limiting/24 hour care type abnormalities. Will the NHS be approving maternal alcoholism next? It causes arguably less damage than repeated first cousin marriage.

There was a study on this done in Bradford and it seems that Muslims with a conflict of interest were involved, likewise I’d be very surprised if similar conflicts of interest were not involved in producing the NHS guidance.

This is what Anas Sarwar and Humza Yousaf are aiming at when they say they want to put Pakistani Muslims (note - not just Muslims in general, or ethnic minorities) in power at the top of Government.

If your colleague is sat next to you in a government meeting and is likely to be offended by bringing up a topic like first cousin marriage or non stun - that’s going to have a chilling effect. This could be why Muslim requirements seem to have so much weight - it only takes one person in a meeting or even a department to trigger our national pathological desire to not cause offence. So important things don’t get discussed for fear of offence, accusations of racism (yes I know but it doesn’t stop the accusers) or the new one - Islamophobia.

The only question is, why can’t our government see what’s going on? Do they want this to happen?

BundleBoogie · 19/01/2026 12:30

Staringintothevoid616 · 18/01/2026 22:15

It’s an absolute mess, it really is. Yes we need to be listening to the moderate Muslims, many of whom have escaped regimes that the Islamists in this country would love to see come to fruition in this country. People need to be looking seriously at Iran -that’s what many Islamists would like here..

The further Islamists and their enablers are allowed to further their agenda the harder the push back will eventually come and be more and more punitive against the ordinary Muslim population unfortunately

Exactly. Yet I get shouted at, accused of being racist, accused of ridiculous hyperbole, accused of Islamophobia (despite repeatedly pointing out not all Muslims etc) on here by people denying that this is happening.

It’s taken me a while to think it all through but it seems that the Islamic extremists are using the moderate Muslims as a human shield and a cover for their power grab and utilising the Left as useful idiots that will be disposed of (or executed if they were in Iran) when they achieve their aims.

Why can’t their enablers see what they are doing? So many parallels with women who enable trans identifying males. Absolutely convinced they are right for no apparent reason.

Kingscallops · 19/01/2026 13:40

BundleBoogie · 19/01/2026 12:30

Exactly. Yet I get shouted at, accused of being racist, accused of ridiculous hyperbole, accused of Islamophobia (despite repeatedly pointing out not all Muslims etc) on here by people denying that this is happening.

It’s taken me a while to think it all through but it seems that the Islamic extremists are using the moderate Muslims as a human shield and a cover for their power grab and utilising the Left as useful idiots that will be disposed of (or executed if they were in Iran) when they achieve their aims.

Why can’t their enablers see what they are doing? So many parallels with women who enable trans identifying males. Absolutely convinced they are right for no apparent reason.

The enablers are too arrogant to see it.

Staringintothevoid616 · 19/01/2026 21:46

BundleBoogie · 19/01/2026 12:30

Exactly. Yet I get shouted at, accused of being racist, accused of ridiculous hyperbole, accused of Islamophobia (despite repeatedly pointing out not all Muslims etc) on here by people denying that this is happening.

It’s taken me a while to think it all through but it seems that the Islamic extremists are using the moderate Muslims as a human shield and a cover for their power grab and utilising the Left as useful idiots that will be disposed of (or executed if they were in Iran) when they achieve their aims.

Why can’t their enablers see what they are doing? So many parallels with women who enable trans identifying males. Absolutely convinced they are right for no apparent reason.

There’s a contingent ( the useful idiots) who are so desperate to be seen as yhe “good guys” they just jump on any bandwagon labelled the “ good guys” without engaging their brain to think through the issues. What they fail to understand in their rush to jump on said band wagon is that some very nasty people are driving it, what’s more, once they have stopped being useful the driver will most likely aim towards a cliff whip the horses into a frenzy and bail out and watch as they go careering to their deaths.

if i was a moderate Muslim I would be very seriously considering moving to a moderate Muslim country because, like you say, they willl be dragged into this by the Islamists

TeenagersAngst · 20/01/2026 06:30

Staringintothevoid616 · 19/01/2026 21:46

There’s a contingent ( the useful idiots) who are so desperate to be seen as yhe “good guys” they just jump on any bandwagon labelled the “ good guys” without engaging their brain to think through the issues. What they fail to understand in their rush to jump on said band wagon is that some very nasty people are driving it, what’s more, once they have stopped being useful the driver will most likely aim towards a cliff whip the horses into a frenzy and bail out and watch as they go careering to their deaths.

if i was a moderate Muslim I would be very seriously considering moving to a moderate Muslim country because, like you say, they willl be dragged into this by the Islamists

Edited

I read recently that the UAE has restricted funding to their young people for studying in Britain due to radicalisation fears.

That’s quite something

Kingscallops · 20/01/2026 12:22

TeenagersAngst · 20/01/2026 06:30

I read recently that the UAE has restricted funding to their young people for studying in Britain due to radicalisation fears.

That’s quite something

Wow and a reflection of the major problem the elephant in the room is.

Dollymylove · 20/01/2026 14:51

TeenagersAngst · 20/01/2026 06:30

I read recently that the UAE has restricted funding to their young people for studying in Britain due to radicalisation fears.

That’s quite something

That is correct
And people think Tommy Robinson is a problem

Kingscallops · 20/01/2026 18:33

Dollymylove · 20/01/2026 14:51

That is correct
And people think Tommy Robinson is a problem

Only the Liberal middle class luvvies who are obsessed with mentioning "Yaxley Lennon" Farage and/or Reform.

Staringintothevoid616 · 26/01/2026 06:59

callmej · 24/01/2026 23:36

What went wrong in Birmingham? From bankruptcy to the Maccabi scandal

Scary stuff, I think important to read. Should probably also forward it to the government.

sorry cabt read it as behind a paywall, but having lived there, I know exactly what has gone wrong in Birmingham and why. We need to grow domestic balls and start addressing it it openly and honestly without threat. I think Birmingham will be lost unless there’s heavy intervention.

Staringintothevoid616 · 26/01/2026 07:21

Staringintothevoid616 · 26/01/2026 06:59

sorry cabt read it as behind a paywall, but having lived there, I know exactly what has gone wrong in Birmingham and why. We need to grow domestic balls and start addressing it it openly and honestly without threat. I think Birmingham will be lost unless there’s heavy intervention.

  • grow some balls not “domestic balls” lol
Skybunnee · 26/01/2026 10:59

Once you get a decent sized population in an area of one creed or faith then any MP for that area has to pander to them or they won’t get their votes. So no one is going to stand up in parliament demanding change - they will just lose their seat.

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