To believe there will be no justice fo Renee Good under the Trump administration

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Renee Good and the way the American government has responded. The broader shift toward more aggressive ICE operations and federal enforcement under the Trump administration is clearly influencing this response. Surely there should be more demand for accountability, transparency, and a government that protects all its people—not just those enforcing the law.

Am I being unreasonable to want justice for Reneee and to be concerned about the broader implications? Surely this sets a precedent for aggressive, potentinally leathal enforcement, even in communities not typically associated with immigration enforcement. Is America moving towards authoritarian practices? Under Trump is this a surprise?

Trump signed an executive order that overturned the need for federal agents to wear body cams. No one should be filming with a phone and carrying an automatic weapon in their other hand.

That is not an excuse. He did not need to shoot her in the face, let alone three times. He could have shot out the wheels of the car as they are trained to do. He is not one of the newly hired agents. He is a veteran agent, who had been through proper training, and a military veteran.

No excuse.

I think the Trump administration is starting to realise that they may have misjudged this one. Popularity for Vance is dropping, they are being less vocal about the domestic terrorism label and Trump has started to use more sympathetic language about her.

US people need to keep the pressure up on this one.

He was a feral officer

You've got that right.

"his instinctive response was to shoot"

Think about that for a moment. Most people's instinctive reaction to thinking they might be hit by a car would be to get out of the way, maybe while also shouting or screaming. Possibly even to pee their pants a little. But you're claiming that this man's instinctual response to perceived danger was to kill someone.

Is it me, or is that every single kind of fucked up?

Agreed. They’re trained to de-escslate.

She did hit him though? There’s footage on CNN of her driving into him and carrying him forward a short distance, which is aiui when the shots are fired.

Have I got that wrong? It seems to pretty clearly make it self-defence (or possibly defence of someone else if the person being hit isn’t the shooter). It’s probably not even an excessive use of force.

The ICE agent, Jonathan Ross was a veteran and had been with ICE since 2015. He was no rookie suffering a lack of training.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/jonathan-ross-immigrant-filipina-wife-license-plate-house-picture-address-grindr-and-snapchat-account-claims-surface-after-minneapolis-shooting/articleshow/126442645.cms

Anyone who sets foot in America now for whatever purpose bears some blame for supporting this regime. No excuses.

I doubt anyone would go to North Korea as easily, conscience or safety wise, so what's the difference please?

Lawyers discussing this

Nate the lawyer and a follow up America's Lawyer and nate the Lawyer

Clearly there won't be, they literally had her, a private citizen with no power or influence, smeared by the President within hours of her death and continue to do so at the highest level. It's both pathetic and deeply sinister.

What next - any guy with a gun can go shoot someone and say 'Oh, I was just trying to help ICE, that person was an illegal immigrant and a criminal and threatened me and I had to shoot him' and the government goes 'Sure, fine', no questions asked?

There's video evidence from several different angles, showing her accelerating her car directly at him. The officer had been hospitalised several weeks before from a similar incident from a member of one the groups targeting ICE.

Propaganda works. For those who fear to question.

What footage is there that she hit him and carried him? The footage from his phone camera certainly doesn’t show that, nor does the bystander footage.

ICE reminds me of what the Nazis did in Germany during and before WW11. People were disappeared as with ICE, no due process, it’s terrifying and abhorrent, what in the bell is happening in America??

Steven Miller is whispering in Trumps ear, this is his baby. If you listen to him speak he’s absolutely unhinged. It’s ironic really, his family fled from persecution in the late 1800’s and settled in America, some of his family have spoken out at how ashamed they are of his vile behaviour.

The video footage from his own camera shows that she was turning her wheel to a full right lock - not towards him. It also shows his feet are out of the way of the car. It also shows him drop his hand to the car when he decides to shoot her, like he thinks that he can try and stop it from moving. That isn’t her hitting him.

The fact he was in another car related incident is irrelevant. That doesn’t give him licence to shoot. It means that he needed proper counselling, not to be back in the field with a firearm if it was going to impact his approach.

Three Words. The Epstein files.The problem is a significant enough proportion of the electorate actually wanted to live in an America like this. They’ve now got what they wanted. The Epstein Files. This is what making America great again looks like. The Epstein files. They want controlled borders and they see people like Renee as an enemy who they believe want uncontrolled borders, so they don’t care about her or her life. The Epstein files. They see foreigners and anyone who supports them as a threat to America. Oh and the Epstein files. Don’t forget the Epstein files. All of this domestic turmoil is also exactly what Trump wants to distract the people away from the Epstein files. Oh, and did I mention the Epstein files?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/07/us/minneapolis-shooting-ice-video-analysis-vis

I didn’t think so at first either, but there is certainly footage of someone getting hit at 48 seconds into the top video here.

The video evidence - including that from his own mobile phone - shows her turning the car away from him.

Do you think that if he had been so traumatised from the prior incident that he was now on a hair-trigger to kill, maybe putting him in the frontline and arming him with a lethal weapon was a poor choice by his senior staff?

I’m not seeing anyone get hit in that video?

Now look at the other footage. The closer footage that isn’t grainy, because that’s much clearer and shows the position of his feet, then put the two together. This footage certainly doesn’t show him being hit and carried. It shows that the car moves and he puts his arm out and leans right over onto it with his arm before it touches him. What’s more, his hand isn’t on the front of the bonnet but off to the side (ie no it wasn’t aiming for him). He looks like he gets clipped because his reaction is clearly to try to stop the car by reaching out for it, so he grabs out for it and stumbles because obviously he’s not going to stop a moving car. That isn’t the same as him standing there and her hitting him with a car. It’s his actions that put him in harm’s way. His feet aren’t in the path of the wheels, so if he hadn’t literally leaned onto the moving car, it wouldn’t have touched him. It might have been instinctive to try and stop her, but it was stupid and certainly not a reason to justify shooting someone three times.

I don’t think all the training in the world (in a dusty gym somewhere, in a class with 30 others, knowing you’re going to break for coffee in five minutes) is ever going to to make you foolproof in a real life situation with fear, adrenaline and stress in the mix.

39 seconds in he’s knocked to the side (he’s the man who’s partially obscured by the man at the driver’s window), and then at 52 seconds he’s lifted onto the bonnet and carried for a few feet.

Am I wrong about any of this? If these are the same incident, and he was the shooter, then they clearly show her hitting him. If not, she’s hitting someone else.

You forgot to mention the content of Hunter Bidens laptop

The footage shows that the car clipped him and it shows that she only changed direction after he drew his gun.
I think she was in fight or flight mode, and panicked. I think the ICE officer also panicked and overreacted.

Earlier footage shows she was parked perpendicular on the road blasting her horn trying to impede ICE from the arrest

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2009683575298211979?s=46&t=KoykWa-IFitZMrteWP2pKA

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We can but hope he only has 2 years. He's said multiple times that he wants to remove that limitation and stay on as President (dictator).

Obama did a kind of 'I told you so' speech where he said (paraphrasing, terribly) that he disagreed with what Trump was doing, but he did warn everyone prior to the election that this was exactly what Trump was going to do, and it's what Trump said multiple times he would do - he doesn't see the police/judiciary as separate bodies that work for/protect the people. He sees them as his personal army, to order as he sees fit and to put down "the enemy within" (ie. anyone who disagrees with him).

In general, I don't think the law has anything to do with justice. But there is certainly no justice for anyone in Trump's America.