To believe there will be no justice fo Renee Good under the Trump administration

[Nodramalama85]

Renee Good and the way the American government has responded. The broader shift toward more aggressive ICE operations and federal enforcement under the Trump administration is clearly influencing this response. Surely there should be more demand for accountability, transparency, and a government that protects all its people—not just those enforcing the law.

Am I being unreasonable to want justice for Reneee and to be concerned about the broader implications? Surely this sets a precedent for aggressive, potentinally leathal enforcement, even in communities not typically associated with immigration enforcement. Is America moving towards authoritarian practices? Under Trump is this a surprise?

www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?smid=url-share

The British police tried to smear Charles DeMenzes and justify the killing too in the aftermath.

There will be no justice, a Go fund me for the vile PoS who shot her has raised over $500k in a day or so.

Americans, especially white Americans, are so very keen to blame Renee Good because if they voice the truth, that she was shot dead after doing absolutely nothing wrong, then they can also be victims of the same actions.

In their eyes it has to be her fault, because if not the truth is too hard to stomach.

He could use an auto pen like Biden who pardoned over 4000 people including his own son for any crimes he might have committed that no one knew about at that point.

I’m happy to believe ICE can “ arrest”’someone for interfering with a federal agent I just don’t believe her actions qualify as interfering. She does have her car parked half way across the road but you can see her wave another car ahead of her. So if the argument is that she is interfering in a physical way then I don’t see that standard being met. She appears to be preparing to leave so the most judicious action would have been to let her leave. He goes up to her and circles her car and then stands in front of her car. How is that evidence of her obstructing him?

Sadly I keep being fed other videos of ICE agents behaving appallingly. They really are a sack of shit. They followed two women in an unmarked car and when they didn’t stop for them they followed them all the way home and forced them out of the car by smashing the side window with a firearm. So you have 2 women ( one seemingly a US citizen… I didn’t see the other woman ) detained and cuffed for not stopping for an unmarked car. So are the Trump supporters arguing that ICE can randomly stop any car they want in an unmarked vehicle and failure to do so falls within their remit? How does the passenger in that car get arrested ?
The other film I saw was of a young black lad who was
picked up on his lunch break and dragged off to some centre miles away and they wouldn’t let him open his phone to show them his passport photo to prove he was a US citizen. When he was finally allowed to do that and released they wouldn’t drive him back ( no coat / snow). The interesting thing about the press conference this lad gave was the police officer stood behind him / with him? I’m slightly unsure how the police are fitting into all this. They’re certainly having to clear up a whole load of mess.

Fucking hell.😮

It's gratifying to know there are still Americans who stand up for what is right.

None of this is true. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself. This is utterly repugnant.

To break it down very simply, even if all the Trump administration say is true (it isn't), in civilised societies we don't summarily execute people because they won't do as they're told. The excuses are fucking ridiculous. "Oh, she behaved badly". So fucking what? Do we now shoot everyone we judge to be behaving badly?

It wasn't justifiable self defence. His actions were wholly disproportionate to hers ....It amazes me that there are still people watching the videos and desperately clinging onto the narrative that it was self defence. It wasn't.

She was interfering with ICE. They asked her to get out of the car and she moved the car forward. I don’t like trump but she should have stayed home and not gotten involved. She spent 5 hours causing trouble. Should she have died, no but there are a lot of problems in some of these states with illegals.

He’s an immigration agent, not a traffic cop. Her blocking traffic is not his jurisdiction. The video captures him saying, “stupid bitch” when he shoots her. This is tucked up on so many levels. They’re conditioning US citizens to be too frightened to exercise their First Amendment Constitutional rights, for fear that they might fall foul of an immigration agent who doesn’t follow protocol. The Right are saying she should have been home with her kids, rather than out exercising her First Amendment rights (her kids were at school, but that’s by the by). The message is clear, and we should read our history books to get a glimpse of the outcome. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it. No matter how thick their presumed bubble is and despite their “it could never happen here” attitude.

Of course not but this isn’t just a Trump thing, it’s an America thing. I wouldn’t exactly say Breonna Taylor received proper justice back in 2020 either.

Unidentified man! The car had flashing blue lights, he was wearing a vest saying police and she was talking to the guy who shot her as was her wife!

He was a feral officer, she was interfering with him carrying out his duties. A federal crime in the US.

But he was all to ready to shoot her.

We in the UK do not. But this isn't the UK and the US police forces have the problem that anyone they deal with could have a gun...he completely over reacted, his gun was out and ready... but knowing that the police are armed, that they could shoot you, seeing a cop in front of you reach for his gun... Would you drive away when one of them is trying to stop you and another has told you to get out of the car and tried to open the door?

Do you believe your own blather.
She was impeding an ICE operation, that absolutely is his jurisdiction. If you are going to spout off about the law, take two minutes to learn it rather than repeat lies that don't stand up to a second of critical thinking.

To avoid lawful arrest she drove her car into one of the arresting officers.

And the man who called her a fucking bitch was not the man who shot, but a man who watched his colleague get hit, deliberately, by a car.

Impeding federal officers is not a first amendment right, it is a crime. It is absolutely protocol, even specific protocol signed in Minnesota by Tim Walz, that an LEO is within their rights to shoot someone who drives at them.

Her death is a tragedy but it was made inevitable by people who constantly tell egregious, hysterical lies like those all over your post. There are FIVE outright lies in your short post, all so you can whip yourself and others up into a state of hysteria and feel like freedom fighters.

I don’t know what training Jonathan Ross received at ICE, and whether he deliberately ignored it, however, I do know that actual police officers are trained not to shoot into a moving car. Because the car can go out of control, killing bystanders and other police officers. You do not want a vehicle travelling down the road with a dead driver behind the wheel. Actual polie officers are trained to shoot tyres. Actual police officers are also trained to assess the seriousness of the offender—did they just murder 30 people, or did they block a street? ICE agents either have sub-par training, choose to ignore the training, or a mixture of both.

There is no justice in the US anymore because trump controls the supreme court and even at lower levels judges are targeted for revenge if they dare to go against his demands.

He weaponises the law against anyone he doesn’t like and rallies his supporters with childish social media rants where he calls those he deems enemies stupid names in his shouty capital letter accusations.

There are far more lies in your post, you aren't fooling anybody except yourself and your fellow numpties.

Actual police officers in the States can receive less than two weeks training, depending on state.

Cars are always potential weapons. And people in the cars potentially carry guns in the US. A car blocking the street to ICE is not just blocking the street it is someone with a weapon committing a crime. In this case they also used that weapon to assault an ICE officer. So we have a criminal who assaulted one federal officer with a deadly weapon (the car) trying to make a get away with that weapon. And the victim of her assault making a split second decision of how to react.

It is one reason I am glad members of the public are not allowed to carry guns in the UK and that the police don’t regularly carry guns here. Give people guns and such outcomes are an inevitable consequence.

For the 85,000th time, no she did not use her car as a weapon. She did not aim at him, she did not hit him. She also wasn't blocking the road as other vehicles were easily able to drive past her.

The video captures him saying, “stupid bitch” when he shoots her.

Sorry, this isn't accurate. He (or one of the other agents with him, it isn't completely clear) says, 'fucking bitch' after he shoots her and before he refuses medical assistance.

I just want to make sure the true horror of his actions are represented.

Goodness, the gullible and the liars are out in force this morning.

@Nodramalama85 Sadly, I suspect you're right. I do think, though, that the American public overall is starting to see the light about this administration. Whether things can still be turned around is another question.

It occurs to me that, as he was filming at the time - ie, looking at and through his phone- he would not have seen her turning the wheel. I think he was concentrating on taking a video to support an arrest for obstruction of ICE activities, a 360 degree video of her car’s relative position on the road. So focused low and wide. He had remained very calm while RG’s wife got on his face and tried to wind him up

while he was still in front of the car, RG’s wife called ‘Drive Baby Drive’, the car did indeed start moving forward, - caught him ? - and his instinctive response was to shoot I don’t think he was looking for an excuse to shoot her

“He completely overreacted”

Well yes, that’s the point everyone’s making. His complete overreaction was to execute her. That is illegal and he should be prosecuted for it. Decent people in the Attorneys office are resigning because the government are trying to ensure this doesn’t happen.

Also, whilst you are trying to speak with complete confidence about what would and wouldn’t happen in the UK, you are clearly uneducated about it. If a firearms officer shoots someone, they (or their colleagues) will administer first aid, they will then be removed from front line duties and there will be an independent investigation by the IOPC. I promise you that if a UK firearms officer had done what that ICE officer did, they would be facing prosecution.

Oh and your bomb analogy is a pile of shit and not remotely comparable to Renee Good manoeuvring her vehicle away and clipping someone. We all know he shot her because she pissed him off and that is murder.

Trump sent his Stormtroopers in and they are acting exactly as intended.

Why would he punish them? Seems odd that the federal government can override the state’s wishes as to the need for the presence of ICE stormtroopers though.