To believe there will be no justice fo Renee Good under the Trump administration

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Renee Good and the way the American government has responded. The broader shift toward more aggressive ICE operations and federal enforcement under the Trump administration is clearly influencing this response. Surely there should be more demand for accountability, transparency, and a government that protects all its people—not just those enforcing the law.

Am I being unreasonable to want justice for Reneee and to be concerned about the broader implications? Surely this sets a precedent for aggressive, potentinally leathal enforcement, even in communities not typically associated with immigration enforcement. Is America moving towards authoritarian practices? Under Trump is this a surprise?

There will be no justice, but there wouldn’t be any for her under any administration. There never is.

There will be no justice. Also a worrying amount of people think what happened is fine.

He should be held accountable for his actions. It’s entirely possible that he placed himself in front of the car to justify using lethal force. Standing in the path of a vehicle is widely considered unsafe and tactically unsound, yet it can be used to claim imminent threat. This is why an independent investigation is warranted.

None. The rule of law, in this case, many others, and shooting men in the water as well is being circumvented.

The comparisons to Germany 1930s are startling.

Agreed. Apparently the punishment for a US citizen ignoring an immigration agent is immediate execution. Cool, cool.

I've had similair thoughts. The lack of accountability and intimidation of communities is chilling.

Just over a year ago a Costa Rican man was detained illegally entering the USA. He was repatriated 12 months later in a persistent vegetative state.

No, there'll be no justice. Not until the equivalent of the Nuremberg trials.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/11/ice-death-costa-rica-randall-gamboa-esquivel

It's not been ignored. It's been justified and defended which is worse.

The boiling frog led to totalitarianism quite quickly. I don't think many really noticed it happening since most of the outrageous stuff didn't or doesn't affect them personally.

Mentioning the Nurenberg trials finally got me blocked by my one MAGA friend. <shrug>

Watch the YouTube video by Nate the Lawyer...he reviews the case as a court would. He finds him not guilty under Us law. The precedents were set many years before Trump.

My personal view is she was bloody stupid and thought she could get away with disobeying a federal officer and driving towards the shooter. Only problem was he'd been hit by a car before and had drawn his weapon well in advance....he was more than ready to shoot. But the US, given the amount of gun crime, doesn't punish police officers for being ready to defend themselves. In the UK he's guilty all day long.

He’s not a police officer. He’s an immigration agent.

How can it be normal for someone going about their daily business, having committed no crime whatsoever, to be shot dead in the street by someone who is not even a properly trained police officer but who has been given indiscriminate powers by a president who thinks anyone who is not with him deserves to die?

Agree.

And part of the reason this works even on those who are not Trump followers is the belief that 'it was her fault' (she was a domestic terrorist/bad mother/wouldn't follow orders) therefore 'it won't happen to me'.

So people can distance themselves from the situation and don't have to be outraged/protest/fearful because, see, they themselves are not at risk.

'If only she hadn't... she wouldn't have died' 'I would never do... therefore I'm safe'. It's a nice (fake) cosy bubble they have created for themselves.

I read today that training for ICE agents has been reduced to 47 days. It was initially 20 weeks, then reduced to 8 weeks before being reduced again.

Why 47 days? As a nod to, and sign of respect for, the 47th president.

I wish I was making this up.

He's still an armed us federal officer and as such interference in him carrying out his duty is a federal crime. Irrespective of that... they were all carrying guns....If I shouted out I've got a bomb at Heathrow airport tomorrow there's a chance that I might be shot as the British police there have guns...so I'm not stupid enough to shout it out just in case. Here she ignored the fed trying to open the door and get her out...What's the worst that could have happened, she's handcuffed, arrested and bailed out again... instead she's driven off, clipping the other cop... stupid, stupid, stupid and bloody sad.

She wasn't going about her daily business she was blocking the road to stop ice. Her wife was out of the car filming ice agents. She ignored a request to get out of the vehicle. She drove at and clipped the man who shot her...if like the poor Brazilian who was shot by British police she was carrying out her daily life, I think the reaction would be completely different from the top down.

The parallels now with the early years of Nazi Germany are terrifying. Its like history is repeating itself scene by scene. Trump has ICE. Hitler had the SA.

Would you want to get out of a car when a masked, unidentified man comes screaming at you to get out of your car? I’ve heard talk that the other agent was telling her to move on, so she may well have been following those orders. I’ve heard it’s a well known ploy with ICE to give conflicting information, so the victim will inevitably make the wrong move, and then they pounce.

JR would have clearly seen the steering wheel was being turned to the right, so he knew her intention was to drive away from him. He wasn’t hit. Reports of him going to hospital are false, as he walked away from the scene perfectly well.

Even if she was protesting, she wasn’t doing anything illegal, and she certainly didn’t deserve to be executed in cold blood. The immediate words of JR after he shot her say a lot about his true intentions. He didn’t like that she didn’t submit to their demands, and, in his mind. he was going to make her pay.

He may try to justify his first shot as being self defence, but why then did he make the second and third shot through the open window? She was no threat at that point. He did it out of pure anger and rage, just as he did with that first shot.

Yep. It's classic "first they came for the.... but I didn't speak up...."

This is what I believe to be the case. I think JR should be held accountable, but there also seem to be systemic issues that contributed to Renée’s shooting. Reduced training, aggressive raids, and limited oversight have been documented across ICE operations. Lawsuits and reports suggest this isn’t an isolated incident, but part of a wider accountability problem.

What's the worst that could have happened, she's handcuffed, arrested and bailed out again...

They have her on bodycam footage. Absolutely no reason why they couldn't approach her later and do this if she's committed some sort of offence.

She wasn't going about her daily business she was blocking the road to stop ice.

She wasn't blocking the road, as evidenced by the fact that when the first ICE officer approaches her there are vehicles drawing past her own and continuing on their way.

She ignored a request to get out of the vehicle

Yes, and obeyed the simultaneous one to "MOVE!", so which of these conflicting instructions should she have obeyed, and how was she supposed to know which of them carried the penalty of instantaneous execution for non-compliance?

She did not drive at him. The agent stepped in front of her vehicle and then shot her three times. Regardless of her actions, this constitutes excessive force, and there is evidence to support that. He was swearing at her, while she remained calm. His aggression escalated rapidly. After she was shot, an unidentified ICE agent called her a “f b.”
This does not appear to be just, moral, or defensible. It seems aggressive, intentional, and unlawful. Exercising her right to freedom of speech is not the same as shouting “bomb” in an airport — it is protected and non-threatening behavior.

Bull shit.
Victim blaming is disgusting.
He chose to shoot her, she is dead because of his choices.

This is untrue