To wonder if past trauma was a factor in the Renee Nicole Good murder and that, while not absolving agent, it shows ICE should select agents more carefully?

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Reading this from the BBC, I wonder if the agent was suffering from previous trauma. They had earlier been in the Iraq War and then had huge number of stitches after being dragged by a car while arresting apparently a 'child sex offender' illicit migrant last March.

Thus I wonder if, because Renee Good clipped them with the car earlier(as The Times indicates), shooting at her car as she drove past was less a rational decision borne from evil and more an instinctive reaction from recent trauma with cars on the job?

This is NOT an excuse. But I wonder if it also shows that ICE are selecting traumatised agents who are too dangerous, due to this, to be in that position?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx4qd4d16no

"Current Status:
Under Supervision as of 10/20/2025. Currently with Anoka County Community Corrections (CCA)."

He still had ten years to serve. And ICE are releasing him. TEN YEARS EARLY. To get a tick in a box and give Trump a headline.

👆 this guy then

’how dare ICE take him out of prison and put him on the streets in Mexico’

NOW

How dare ICE take him off the streets! He still had ten more years of ‘supervision’ on those streets!

Just admit you were wrong here, okay?

He still had 10 years to serve and was serving them.

ICE are releasing him.

He was literally on the streets. Exactly what you were bitching about before. Honestly, just admit you were wrong.

And off down another rabbit hole we go, as you justify ICE shooting a woman in the head.

He was still serving his sentence, had 10 years to go. ICE are setting him free.

I've been looking into how ICE finds undocumented migrants, and I have more questions than answers.

Apparently, some 48% of arrests are made from jails and prisons, which tallies with what is being said on here; ICE is making up its numbers by harvesting jails.

For the rest, they use various tactics, including workplace raids and gathering data from DMV and other databases. The behaviour of ICE during the workplace raids is heavily criticised, with many employees reporting that ICE used racial profiling to identify undocumented workers, and frequently used racial slurs. White workers were ignored because we all know that migrants are never white

What I'm wondering, given they target people based on data and intelligence, not their skin colour, is why the need for public arrests and tactics like waiting outside of schools?

Minnesota have reported that many of their pupils are too afraid to attend school. There have been various reports of ICE attacking school children during these raids and innocent teachers and students being caught up in skirmishes and targeted with pepper spray, as well the distress of the children witnessing their parents being thrown to the ground by a gang of armed men. It's all so unnecessary.

They have the addresses of their suspects. Why not send a couple of officers to the house to peacefully knock on the door? This would avoid the need for armed gangs to be roaming the streets and minimise the danger to both ICE and the public. They have access to criminal databases, so they would know whether their suspects are likely to be armed.

The answer is obvious I know, but I am wondering how ICE are justifying this to the American public?

Unrelated to the topic, but does anyone else find it somewhat ironic that a man whose father is German and mother is Scottish is so against immigration?

He was already set free, you are failing to acknowledge that truth. And you are still failing to acknowledge it.

He was on the streets.

Prove it. Prove he was on the streets. He was arrested while in the jail system.

You literally linked to the proof. He was on supervised release.

Current Status:
Under Supervision as of 10/20/2025. Currently with Anoka County Community Corrections (CCA).

Under supervision does not automatically mean supervised release.

ICE are harvesting the prison system. 48% of their captures as a PP posted are already in the custodial system, as Aldrin Guerrero-Munoz was, until ICE removed him.

When Trump says " they are emptying their jails to send them here", that is exactly what he is doing. ICE are setting convicts free.

Are they taking steps to ensure felons are finishing their sentences in their country of origin ? It does not seem so, because if they were, DHS would be yelling it from their rooftops.

To wonder if past trauma was a factor in the Renee Nicole Good murder and that, while not absolving agent, it shows ICE should select agents more carefully?

I think trauma-informed fascism might be jumping the wokeness shark for me.

You can look at various pages of offenders in Minnesota and see this is an official term used to describe someone who is registered with the Supervised Release program. Apparently it’s mandatory, so you just get released into the community upon serving 2/3rds of your sentence. INSANE

So for the last time. Just admit you were wrong about this. He was never going to remain in prison to serve out his term. He was released into the community.

Total chaos with the ICE thugs

x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/2011170459589755126

What is chaotic is the fact yet again someone else was obstructing the road and refusing to follow instructions. At least she was removed and handcuffed before following bystanders shouts to 'drive!'.

Your claim was that ICE only picked up people at the end of their sentence. This fella still had 10 years to serve, and already had a deportation order on him anyway, for when he finished his sentence.

So ICE are harvesting from jails.

The chaos is ICE has large gangs of armed men on the streets for what?

Can someone explain why armed gangs on the street are needed to detain people whose names and addresses are available?

You don't see any other US LE organisation doing this. The FBI isn't wandering the streets in armed gangs whenever they need to arrest people, nor are the police or ATF.

The main purpose of ICE is to cause chaos, fear, and unrest.

He was going to ‘serve’ his last ten years as part of a supervised release, ie not in jail, ie actually on the streets. Fucking INSANE

So your last line is just a bizarre statement that you know isn’t true

Sometimes it's OK not to see the other perspective. This is one of those times.

Murderers have past trauma. They are still murderers.

"What is chaotic is the fact yet again someone else was obstructing the road and refusing to follow instructions. At least she was removed and handcuffed before following bystanders shouts to 'drive!'."

If you think these ICE thugs are reasonable there is something wrong with you.

Do you talk in this extreme way in the UK, if you do I can't imagine the looks you get for this kind of viewpoint. How is all this extremism actually helping American society, does it contribute to making people feel safe. It is so hard to comprehend for many in Europe and many Brits.

There's nothing wrong with me, I'm perfectly able to view your link and see another woman obstructing officers and getting removed from her car.

There is something wrong with the shit stirring bystanders shrieking 'drive drive!' clearly excited about the thought of another avoidable tragedy.

At least you admit it's a 'tragedy'. The rest is just strange.

The "shit-stirring bystanders" could only have been alerted to ICE's presence because of either the sheer number of them or by ICE itself leaking information. It says they were raiding a house.

Why "raid" a house at all? Why not simply attend the address? And why so many of them, if not to draw the attention of the protestors and cause more unrest? How many people could be living in a "house" to warrant such a massive armed response? Who was in the house that made their removal so time-sensitive? A more sensible move would be to wait until the unrest has eased; anything else would just add fuel to the fire.

Well, in places like Minneapolis there are crowds of agitators running about obstructing and making ICE's job harder. Egged on by the stupid mayor. It seems to have become a hobby for some to try and provoke ICE officers.

I'm a Brit but from what I have heard from the mayor, he seems far from thick, unlike many on this thread unfortunately.