To wonder if past trauma was a factor in the Renee Nicole Good murder and that, while not absolving agent, it shows ICE should select agents more carefully?

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Reading this from the BBC, I wonder if the agent was suffering from previous trauma. They had earlier been in the Iraq War and then had huge number of stitches after being dragged by a car while arresting apparently a 'child sex offender' illicit migrant last March.

Thus I wonder if, because Renee Good clipped them with the car earlier(as The Times indicates), shooting at her car as she drove past was less a rational decision borne from evil and more an instinctive reaction from recent trauma with cars on the job?

This is NOT an excuse. But I wonder if it also shows that ICE are selecting traumatised agents who are too dangerous, due to this, to be in that position?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdx4qd4d16no

This woman did drive into him and had no care for his safety. She could have seriously hurt him. Hopefully this will be a harsh lesson for all thinking about hurting government agents.

Did I block the commenter on LinkedIn? No they weren’t in my network. I went to see what they were saying about the incident ( because the majority of my network are firearms officers) and I found a ton of offensive comments by men primarily in the whole FAFO vein. They were primarily in the US I believe. I have to be honest I was pretty shocked that they would make comments like that attached to their business profiles. Anyway I decided to make a post to try and clarify some of the misinformation I was seeing. I haven’t changed my mind about it.

You haven't addressed my point: that he shot 3 times while she was driving away.

Deserved it?

What a horrible comment

Do you think he should have shot 3 times as she drove away, then?

Maybe he shot because he thought she was going to run over other agents too? She didn't care about hitting him with a deadly weapon so it might be fair to say he though she was a danger to others. Maybe a statement will be released to clarify that but the fact still remains that she attacked him first and could have killed him.

Violent men who can’t regulate their emotions ARE sensitive, which is the entire reason they are violent in the first place. They can’t handle being confronted and emasculated by anybody (especially women, or people they think are below them). They have massively fragile but inflated egos, it’s exactly why they behave the way they do, and exactly the type of people who are right wing, punch down on others and join up to organisations like ICE.

Your comment is hilarious, it’s the exact opposite of reality 🤣🤣🤣

ICE are dealing with migrants already in the USA, not ones coming, which if Trump is to be believed, has not reduced to a trickle.

As you quoted a sentence, at least have the sense to read it.....

There are countless excerpts of the incident. There does not appear to be specific beyond reasonable doubt footage. There are a lot of people using footage sympathetic to Thier line of ICE, on immigration policy, removal.of undocumented immigrants and use of past child abuse by a partner, sexual predilection, and removal of people who may have links with corruption.

Were there protests about the shooting of an unarmed woman in Minnesota by a migrant serving in the police department when she reported a burglary?

"Attacked him first" where have you seen that? has that been proven? its at best a highly controversial view, not born out by the path of the vehicle after he shot her, going to the right, he was standing to the left....

All the agents were behind/to the side of the vehicle, apart from him....

You're really clutching to come up with that one as an excuse.

Reported

I may be wrong but I thought that if someone shoots people in the US but then runs away, it's not legal to shoot them while they're running away.

If this is true, I suspect it would be similar in this case.

I know they are already in the USA. I don't think the USA is able to support them & I do think they should be sent back. It's a horrible situation but I don't disagree with arrests. Imo it's ICE's tactics which are the problem

This normalises violence and normalises the use of violence against people who we don't agree with

We went through this yesterday and the day before.
She was turning the wheel right as borne out by the trajectory of the car after her murderer shot her at point blank range.

Something you seem to think is OK in your country (although you never did reply to my polite question asking which one).

It doesn't matter how many times you lie, or how much you embellish your story, it doesn't make it fact.

I agree there's no footage we can be really sure of yet.

Can you link to that case? Terrible.

You believe whatever you like. It doesn't change the fact she was careless with the agents life and her actions mean she is now dead. It doesn't matter how much you repeat the same nonsense, he defended himself and has the support of the government and most people.

That's also A LIE.

He has the support of a corrupt government who are blocking state law enforcement access to evidence.

I wonder why they wouldn't want anyone outside their immediate control to see the evidence?

Again, it really doesn't matter what you think. We've all seen the videos and it's clear to see what happened.

All apologists. Think harder. One day it could be you and people like you will minimise any official misdemeanour and blame you. Classic DARVO. DENY. ACCUSE. REVERSE VICTIM and OFFENDER. Shame on every single one of you, especially those who claim to be Christians.

Not a lie. Its clear to see on the video.

I still don’t agree that revealing his identify was correct.

That was sheer incompetence by the administration. Referencing the previous incident where he was dragged made it easy for the press to look up court records and find a match.

@Divebar2021 in normal circumstances I would agree that trial by media should not happen. In the UK I would trust that both the force and the IOPC would investigate thoroughly, charging and prosecuting if appropriate.

However the regime have gone out of their way to prejudice an investigation, they've prevented the state from accessing evidence so that state charges could be brought, and in the very unlikely event that the Feds ever did prosecute and convict him then Trump would just pardon away. We've already seen evidence posted here that ICE in Minnesota now think that they are beyond the reach of the law. In the absence of legal consequences, I'm not going to raise an eyebrow if other consequences happen. At the very least I'd be glad if he has to spend every last waking minute looking over his shoulder.

I also feel sorry for his wife’s who’s had her picture plastered all over the internet.

I certainly wouldn't bring his wider family into this. He, and only he pulled the trigger.

Lies...

This

When we learn to drive, we look all around before moving it as it's a deadly weapon and can seriously hurt someone. She was told to get out of the car and chose to drive forward instead.