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Came home early to stepson - AIBU for not backing DH?

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SoupLong · 10/01/2026 23:45

I don’t really know where to start and I’m a bit all over the place so bear with me.

My stepson has lived with us full time since his mum died when he was 7, nearly 8. He’s 17 now and in his first year of college. I’ve been in his life a long time and I do love him, but the last couple of years have been very difficult. Behaviour issues, attitude, lying about where he’s been, disappearing for hours. We’ve found weed and I strongly suspect more than that but don’t have proof. DH and stepson argue a lot. They clash badly.

DH’s way of dealing with things is very much stop being so sensitive, stop overthinking, toughen up. Those words have been used. I’ve said before that I don’t think it helps but DH says he’s exhausted and at the end of his rope. Their relationship is pretty strained.

I also have a DD who is 15, nearly 16. She and stepson are extremely close and always have been. Sometimes it feels like they’re a unit and DH is on the outside, which I know doesn’t help matters.

Tonight DH and I went out for a meal locally. Before we left, stepson was acting oddly. Asking how long we’d be, whether we were getting dessert, if we might stay out longer. He kept checking the time. I had a funny feeling and mentioned it to DH, so we didn’t stay out as long and came home earlier than planned.

When we got back they were both clearly surprised. DD was in stepson’s room. He was wearing makeup. Properly done, not messing about. Eyeliner, mascara, lipstick. DD had done it carefully. He wasn’t joking or performing, just sitting there.

DH’s reaction was immediate and cold. Asked what was going on, said it wasn’t appropriate, asked if he’d taken something. Stepson went completely quiet, wiped his face and went into his room. He’s been shut in there since and won’t engage with either of us.

DD is furious. She says DH humiliated him and that he was finally feeling safe enough to open up and now he’ll never trust us again. DH says he’s not having it in his house, that it’s attention seeking and probably drug related, and that I should have backed him instead of standing there saying nothing.

So as not to Drip feed, DH is from a different culture (India)

Stepson self harmed a few years ago, around 14. Cutting. DH reacted very badly at the time. He told him to stop being stupid, accused him of doing it for attention, asked if he wanted to end up in care. I was horrified. We did try to get him into counselling but after a couple of sessions he refused to go back and DH didn’t push it. Stepson has never really forgiven DH for how he handled that and I don’t think DH has ever truly accepted that he got it wrong. He tends to say he panicked and didn’t know what to do.

Also, some months ago we found out stepson had been stealing bras, both from shops and from DD. He denied it initially then admitted it. DH completely lost his temper. Took his phone, grounded him, told him it was perverted and unacceptable. There was no calm discussion, just anger. Stepson barely spoke to us for weeks afterwards.

So tonight doesn’t feel like it’s really about makeup. It feels like all of that rolled into one moment.

DD says she was helping him because he wanted to see what he looked like and felt safe with her. She is adamant there were no drugs involved and I believe her.

I feel stuck in the middle. I think DH’s reaction has probably pushed stepson further away again. DH thinks I’m undermining him and letting stepson do whatever he wants. Stepson is shut in his room and I’m lying here feeling sick with worry that we’re missing something important.

AIBU for not backing DH? Or is he being too harsh and not seeing the bigger picture?

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nolongersurprised · 11/01/2026 06:55

A parent's job is to help support their children,

It is, isn’t it? Which is why I wouldn’t let my daughter stay in a house where her underwear was being used as a sexual prop for a disturbed young man.

Later on, as a sexually mature woman she might decide she doesn’t mind/enjoys her partners wearing her bras, but she’s 15. She needs the adults around her to impose some boundaries. Imagine putting on underwear knowing your stepbrother had also worn it?

SixDozen · 11/01/2026 06:58

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Your comment is disgusting, he is a child who needs support and empathy. Take your bigotry elsewhere.

MrsJeanLuc · 11/01/2026 06:58

DelphiniumBlue · 10/01/2026 23:54

TBH, DH seems to be lacking in empathy towards his son, who has lost his mother and is clearly conflicted about his sexuality. No doubt it's difficult for DH to acknowledge any of this, but if he doesn't manage to show a bit of kindness to the lad, he'll lose him.
Thank goodness for your DD, who is showing a level of maturity and understanding that you should be very proud of.
DH needs to consider how he can support his son, not humiliate him. That would never be a good strategy, no matter what DH's opinion is of boys wearing make-up.

For clarty, men can cross dress without being conflicted about their sexuality. I went out with one once. He was definitely a man, and heterosexual, he just liked to present as a woman occasionally. It wasn't a sexual thing at all.

But I do agree with the rest of your comment.

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:01

Hoardasurass · 10/01/2026 23:59

The stealing of your dds bras is a major problem and a warning sign of a fetish.
His dad is a dick though

This nails it!

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:03

ghostofchristmaspasta · 11/01/2026 00:28

I think he was stealing them to try on, the same as the makeup, as a way to explore his gender/sexuality not for any nefarious reasons like that.

Oh how naive of you. He’s getting a sexual kick out of wearing his stepsister’s underwear. Grim!

SapphOhNo · 11/01/2026 07:04

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:03

Oh how naive of you. He’s getting a sexual kick out of wearing his stepsister’s underwear. Grim!

It's possible but you don't know that.

Totally unhelpful.

BobblyBobbleHat · 11/01/2026 07:05

What a hard situation. Your husband needs to have a rethink rather quickly if he doesn't want to lose his relationship with his son for good.

It doesn't sound like the boy has any harm in him, just that he wants to explore and his step sister is being a friend to him and supporting him with that.

SomewhatAnnoyed · 11/01/2026 07:08

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 11/01/2026 06:24

Poor boy. I wonder if this shows he is craving soft nurturing after losing his mum. Be there for him and give him lots of nurturing.

what’s your husband like with you, any better?

I absolutely believe this is the case for Eddie Izzard. He lost his mum at a very young age and it clearly (as would be expected) still affects him deeply.

ThejoyofNC · 11/01/2026 07:10

I'd kick him out.

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:14

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 11/01/2026 05:48

For Fucks Sake, he wasn't stealing bras because he has a fetish, he wanted to wear them! I am female, and very glad to be so, but when I was the DSS's age, I hated going shopping for bras as it really embarrassed me, the same goes for menstrual products. So, if a bona fide young woman can be embarrassed by such things, just think how difficult it must be for a vulnerable male teenager who wants to either confirm to himself that he needs to be a woman, or to realise that that isn't the reason why he thinks he feels so different?

By the way, Hoarda, if breaking the law by stealing something is taken out of the equation, a fetish is only a bad thing if someone else gets hurt (mentally or physically) by the person's fetish, or if it screws up, and maybe ruins, the mental health of the person with the fetish.

However, I do agree with you that the poor lad's father is a Dick!

Pray tell us why a male wants to wear a bra so much that he steals his younger step sister’s bras? He isn’t female, never will be. The likely hood is that he’s wearing her underwear to masturbate - it’s classic AGP behaviour. Ask any AGP trans identifying male and they will tell you about stealing their sisters / mothers underwear to wear when masturbating. It’s not what gay males do - they know they are male but want to be seen as feminine. AGPs are straight and want to actually BE female to feed their fetish.

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:17

SapphOhNo · 11/01/2026 07:04

It's possible but you don't know that.

Totally unhelpful.

Can you think of another reason why he’d be stealing his stepsisters underwear?

Bikergran · 11/01/2026 07:21

Hoardasurass · 10/01/2026 23:59

The stealing of your dds bras is a major problem and a warning sign of a fetish.
His dad is a dick though

You're looking at it the wrong way. The SS just wants feminine clothes to explore his sexuality.

nolongersurprised · 11/01/2026 07:24

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:17

Can you think of another reason why he’d be stealing his stepsisters underwear?

Would the posters on here who don’t seem perturbed by a 15 year old having her underwear stolen be ok if a 17 year old stepson was stealing their underwear?

Or do violations like this not count if it’s only at 15 year old girl?

SapphOhNo · 11/01/2026 07:27

Soontobe60 · 11/01/2026 07:17

Can you think of another reason why he’d be stealing his stepsisters underwear?

May wish to do drag.

May be confused about his gender.

Not acceptable that he stole them but posters here calling him predator and a pervert are not helping.

LoudSnoringDog · 11/01/2026 07:28

Your husband is a dick.
your stepson needs some support or counselling to help him deal with the trauma of losing his mum.
he needs the support to help him identify who is he in this world
he needs to be able to explore his sexuality without fear of being humiliated.
the only positive I can see in this is that you appear to have raised a fabulous, confident daughter. I hope she remains an ally to your stepson

Sartre · 11/01/2026 07:29

Poor boy, he needs someone to give him a hug and reassure him he’s ok and normal
and loved. Your DH has been abusive and you absolutely should be continuing to back DSS and offer support. Good on your DD for giving him this too.

ThatBlackCat · 11/01/2026 07:32

NumbersGuy · 11/01/2026 06:46

To all of the classic homophobic and TERF tropes, about he's sexualizing what he's doing, he's going to go onto assaulting females, his step sister is close enough to his age to have the same type of attitude that gender is becoming a fluid concept. For him to self-harm, stealing bras, and his sister helping provide him feel feminine with the application of makeup. This is a young person who is trying to feel comfortable in his own body - something that very few people here like SomewhatAnnoyed has pointed out here. His sister is NOT afraid of him, because it's because he's obviously confided in her and she's actually is willing to help him. OP and your DH obviously have no trans friends to actually understand what he's going through, but until you learn through others who have a similar history, he's going to have to survive until he's on his own. And THIS IS EXACTLY WHY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO BE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES. DH may never understand or accept, and that's his choice, as it is his son's to go n/c if it enters that phase. This is not a life anyone chooses by choice because of the fatalistic attitudes they keep spewing with such vitriol. He will only find support being outside of the home likely, and OP you should please educate yourself with PFLAG in the UK to find the support you'll need to find help. It's your choice how you handle it - not your DH, but only yours. A parent's job is to help support their children, and if you can't then let them go to find their own family to find that love so they don't go over the edge with no coming back.

As a male you lack the understanding of how women and girls are sexualised, and of safeguarding. It is a FACT that sexual predators and voyeurs steal underwear to 'get off'. You only need to speak to your local police to be educated on this. Oh, and a lot of children feel 'completely comfortable' with their abusers and predators. It's called GROOMING. Your lack of understanding of basic safeguarding is truly concerning, as is your heartless lack of compassion for the vulnerable female sex, especially young girls.

pinksheetss · 11/01/2026 07:32

Beeloux · 11/01/2026 01:04

I think some posters are being naive to be shocked that a man from a conservative Indian background would not be happy with a potentially homosexual son wearing makeup. I have a good friend from a conservative culture and he won’t dare tell his family he’s gay.

Not saying his reaction is acceptable at all but it’s hardly surprising. I’d support SS as much as you can. Giving his history of self harm, he’s clearly vulnerable.

being from a ‘conservative’ background 100% does not make what this ‘d’ H is doing acceptable in the slightest.

He’s horrible and it’s definitely a husband problem rather than stepson. There is no way I could continue on in a relationship with someone like this.

ActiveTiger · 11/01/2026 07:33

It now seems very obvious why stepson has been awkward for such a long time if he can't be himself that's exactly why

ThatBlackCat · 11/01/2026 07:37

Bikergran · 11/01/2026 07:21

You're looking at it the wrong way. The SS just wants feminine clothes to explore his sexuality.

You are so naive and gullible. Go down to your local police station and ask them about men who steal womens underwear from their homes and clothes line. It is NOT to "explore their sexuality", lol. It is to 'get off'.

ThatBlackCat · 11/01/2026 07:38

SapphOhNo · 11/01/2026 07:27

May wish to do drag.

May be confused about his gender.

Not acceptable that he stole them but posters here calling him predator and a pervert are not helping.

No, you are not helping by trying to silence people speaking about the most obvious reason.

NotBadConsidering · 11/01/2026 07:42

ThatBlackCat · 11/01/2026 07:32

As a male you lack the understanding of how women and girls are sexualised, and of safeguarding. It is a FACT that sexual predators and voyeurs steal underwear to 'get off'. You only need to speak to your local police to be educated on this. Oh, and a lot of children feel 'completely comfortable' with their abusers and predators. It's called GROOMING. Your lack of understanding of basic safeguarding is truly concerning, as is your heartless lack of compassion for the vulnerable female sex, especially young girls.

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NumbersGuy understands all that, but doesn’t care. He will always prioritise the rights of men with AGP over women.

OP, your stepson has unresolved trauma issues and a burgeoning AGP fetish and is using your DD as a prop in that. He needs therapy, family therapy with his father, and you need to safeguard your daughter from her clothes being used for your stepson’s gratification.

Cakeandcardio · 11/01/2026 07:43

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Yet you are still hanging around on a site for women you wee creep.

Datafan55 · 11/01/2026 07:54

deadbobaplace · 11/01/2026 01:50

Mumsnet probably not the best forum to post this particular issue, tbh. But since we're here, dss needs counselling asap, and dh needs reminding what country and century he's living in.

If he wants to be gay, let him. If he wants to wear make up, let him. However 'it being this century' doesn't excuse a man stealing underwear from a girl. Serial killers often start off like this. As ever, the rush to inclusivity means people are overlooking danger to women.

Volpini · 11/01/2026 07:54

No one on this thread can determine the stepson’s motivations for wearing women’s underwear and make up. None of us know if he is exploring drag, cross dressing, homosexuality or considering his gender identity. It’s not the place of non professionals to make sweeping judgments, OP. Clearly he needs support that he is not getting from adults in the home.
In the unlikely event he could prove a danger to other women, (and what you’ve written doesn’t read like that’s) your husband shaming and forcing your son to hide his feelings further is not going to help. As others have said, it’s great your daughter is an ally to him, but she’s not a parent or a therapist - or even an adult. I would be seeking urgent therapeutic support for your DSS and family therapy, if you are lucky enough that your DSS will go with you all.