Page 13 | Ice agent shoots a woman in the face part 3

Moontan · 2026-01-09T15:35:57+00:00

Donald Trump has now said its okay to murder a woman. Because they are doing it for people's 'safety' It is interesting how far humans will let themselves be abused by bad people. I was watching a documentary about jonestown the cult. Some people left the cult They said that the leader beat people, raped people, starved people. He made them do physical labour for many hours a day. He demanded that they give him all of their money. And yet still hundreds of people followed him. People seem to keep supporting a person and staying there. Rather than saying "maybe i was wrong and this guy is actually a bad person"

Lahdedah2026 · 10/01/2026 04:49

Frequency · 10/01/2026 00:14

I'm not victim-blaming, I'm just pointing out that maybe, if you don't want to be raped, you shouldn't go out wearing a short skirt.

Maybe, just maybe, if you're drinking with a man all night, you probably shouldn't wear short skirts and flirt. I'm not saying it was her fault she was raped and beaten. I'm just saying she made the wrong decision in wearing that.

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What on earth

Wishing14 · 10/01/2026 04:58

If I ever do go to America (unlikely with how insane they are) I’ll know not to drive at an officer with a gun. It’s awful for everyone including the officer after what he had been through, sad for the woman and heartbreaking her family. But if you drive at an armed officer in your car you have to accept some responsibility.

OtterlyAstounding · 10/01/2026 04:59

Lahdedah2026 · 10/01/2026 04:49

What on earth

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I think Frequency was being sarcastic here, and trying to make a point.

Although (and I may get raked over the coals for this) I think if a woman goes out of her way to flirt with a known violent rapist (because from my perspective, ICE are known to be violent, aggressive, and unpredictable), while the rapist is still the one to blame for whatever they might do and not the woman, I would definitely ask myself, 'what the everloving fuck did she think would happen when she flirted with a man she knows is a violent rapist??'

Of course, that's not quite analogous to this situation.

HelenaWaiting · 10/01/2026 05:39

Playingvideogames · 09/01/2026 23:01

Very sad to see you dismissing Iran on the basis it doesn’t have McDonalds and speak English (or something).

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YOU are being dismissed (not Iran) because of your numerous attempts to derail the thread.

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 05:59

TheIrritatingGentleman · 10/01/2026 03:41

This was exactly my thought. She would not have expected it. Even in the video the other lady said about the car plate for when they wanted to speak to them later.

I'm not even American and would never think as also a middle aged, middle class white woman, that I would be killed by an immigration officer while visiting US because I mouthed off.

White privilege I know and I'm ashamed of having felt that way.

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She is dead because she drove at the ICE agent. She looked at him and moved forward. I was giving her the benefit of the doubt, but she wasn’t panicked at all and drove toward him (what the hell was she trying to accomplish? She wasn’t even trying to flee probably because she left her wife behind!)

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 06:01

user4532789 · 10/01/2026 02:37

That's not Renee Good who says that. The woman outside the car, who seems to be her partner, says something along those lines, although it's 'do you want to come at us?' not 'come at us', and then she says, 'go get some lunch, big boy,'

She also points out that ICE has their license plate (we don't change our plates every morning) and are perfectly capable of tracking them down if they want to make an obstruction case.

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And that’s what would have happened too, if she’d not drove toward and hit him

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 06:05

Ihavelostthegame · 10/01/2026 02:24

Well the obvious one would be Black Lives Matter! Police accountability, use of body cameras and the banning of arrest tactics like chokeholds all happened in multiple states as a direct result of what happened.

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It’s been an own goal for the left. We’ve seen the amount of shit police have to deal with. Body cams have actually saved a lot of cops from jail.

I recall one headline looked really bad for the cops. Cop shoots and kills 13 year old girl. People were going to turn out and demonstrate. Well, until the body cam footage was released.

Turns out the girl had a knife and was lunging toward another girl with a knife. If he hadn’t shot her, the other teenager would have been seriously injured or killed.

Many such cases

CarlaLemarchant · 10/01/2026 06:14

JD Vance still tweeting about this is mad. Trump has shut up about it, letting Vance be the fall guy maybe? They can’t actually believe the shit they are coming out with.

RedTagAlan · 10/01/2026 06:21

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 06:05

It’s been an own goal for the left. We’ve seen the amount of shit police have to deal with. Body cams have actually saved a lot of cops from jail.

I recall one headline looked really bad for the cops. Cop shoots and kills 13 year old girl. People were going to turn out and demonstrate. Well, until the body cam footage was released.

Turns out the girl had a knife and was lunging toward another girl with a knife. If he hadn’t shot her, the other teenager would have been seriously injured or killed.

Many such cases

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So erm, if police are protected by bodycams, why was this immigration officer not wearing one ?

RedTagAlan · 10/01/2026 06:42

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 06:05

It’s been an own goal for the left. We’ve seen the amount of shit police have to deal with. Body cams have actually saved a lot of cops from jail.

I recall one headline looked really bad for the cops. Cop shoots and kills 13 year old girl. People were going to turn out and demonstrate. Well, until the body cam footage was released.

Turns out the girl had a knife and was lunging toward another girl with a knife. If he hadn’t shot her, the other teenager would have been seriously injured or killed.

Many such cases

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Another reply to this from me, re police shooting and killing a 13 year old girl.

Quote : " Many such cases"

Indeed There are " Many such cases" of Police shooting dead 13 year old girls. So many in fact that I need to ask what case are you specifically talking about, where Police shot a 13 year old girl dead ?

I can narrow it down a little of course. It was in the USA.

13 year old girls being shot dead by Police are very very very rare outside of the USA. Rare to the point of never in most countries.

Don't you think the issue of Police shooting people dead is something that should be looked at ? In the USA anyway. It seems to be an oddly US specific occurrence.

MsJinks · 10/01/2026 07:06

Livelovebehappy · 10/01/2026 00:16

The danger wouldn’t necessarily come from the police. It’s more likely the danger would be from a protestor who isn’t rational or who is hyped up/volatile, and might have a weapon, try to use it on the police or counter protestors, then you get caught up in the violence. You don’t know everyone who is crowded round you. You don’t know what their motives are. It’s a huge risk.

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Oh yes I get that point and this is currently true in the U.K. - true on the March to an extent, as a bottle just missed my head, whilst ‘water’ didn’t miss - it was a little scary.
However, that’s my decision to go and I’m able to make it in the U.K. without fear of execution. I may think the more violent protestors should be arrested, but not shot, however much I disagree with their views or even behaviour of some.
Our police have to be neutral - I know this may be debated at times - but they’re sufficiently neutral not to kill either side and sufficiently competent to manage such situations without needing to shoot.
In the context of this thread it is the ability to protest without fear of state sanctioned violence (at best) which I am worried about losing and even more worried there are people who think we should lose it.

xanthomelana · 10/01/2026 07:18

Usernamenotfound1 · 10/01/2026 01:54

“As a mother” though, someone has to stand up for the world our children live in.

if we don’t do it, who will?

I remember Vance was it? Said about Kamala that she should not be president because she had no children, therefore she would have no interest in the long term future of the country.

someone needs to stand up to these thugs. Someone needs to stand up and say what they are doing is wrong.

are we saying only those willing to die should be protesting?

protesting shouldn’t mean execution.

i hope Renee’s kids grow up proud of her for having the courage to try and change her country. I hope her death does change the country.

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She had three children but lost custody of two so I suggest you look a bit deeper into the reasons for that before saying you hope they are proud of her. Maybe if she stood up for her children like you say the courts wouldn’t have removed them in the first place.

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:25

1dayatatime · 10/01/2026 00:28

Well let's say I walked into an airport carrying a pipe or an umbrella wrapped in a blanket and found myself quickly surrounded by armed police shouting at me to put down the weapon then the right decision is to do as they say. Would you agree that the wrong decision would be to raise the umbrella to my shoulder point it at the armed police whilst shouting "ney copper's going to get me alive".

You see it is possible to make the right or wrong decisions without it being "victim blaming ".

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Let’s just say she did no such thing, was murdered in cold blood by a misogynist with a gun who couldn’t control his temper and should not have been employed to do the job he was doing, and what she did was not in the end pointless, because she was murdered, so drawing worldwide attention to the brutality happening on US streets. To be pointless, she should have been allowed to drive away.

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:33

Livelovebehappy · 10/01/2026 00:27

Yes, she should have stayed home. What was her end goal here? What was she hoping to achieve? She wasn’t marching. She just chose to drive up to the situation, shouting stuff. It was just pointless antagonisation with no real end result, yet at the same time putting herself amongst other antagonists about whom she knew nothing. I’m saying that, imo, you don’t insert yourself into volatile situations, especially when what you’re doing is not going to make any difference whatsoever, but may end up endangering your life from the threat of others around you, whether that was going to be the ICE agents, or the other protestors.. I repeat she shouldn’t have been shot, but the majority of rational people would not have even been there.

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I refer you to my earlier point. What she did was not pointless - it would have been if she had been allowed to drive off, but instead she was shot in the face and killed, so tragically demonstrating that Trump swamping cities and states run by people he has a vendetta against with ICE agents on the back of unproven social media claims is aggressive, brutal and dangerous and ICE should not have been there behaving in that way.

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:38

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 06:05

It’s been an own goal for the left. We’ve seen the amount of shit police have to deal with. Body cams have actually saved a lot of cops from jail.

I recall one headline looked really bad for the cops. Cop shoots and kills 13 year old girl. People were going to turn out and demonstrate. Well, until the body cam footage was released.

Turns out the girl had a knife and was lunging toward another girl with a knife. If he hadn’t shot her, the other teenager would have been seriously injured or killed.

Many such cases

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🤣🤣🤣It’s been an own goal for the right. An own goal for the left would be someone shooting the ICE agent.

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:38

'was murdered in cold blood by a misogynist with a gun '

Misogynist? People just keep making stuff up.

This was tragic and avoidable yes, murder no. I've no idea why people are still embarrassing themselves and arguing when the released footage last night proved she wasn't panicking she was laughing, her and her gf seemed to think it was all great fun.

She obstructed armed law enforcement officers then acted in a way perceived to be a threat. The footage is clear.

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:39

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:38

'was murdered in cold blood by a misogynist with a gun '

Misogynist? People just keep making stuff up.

This was tragic and avoidable yes, murder no. I've no idea why people are still embarrassing themselves and arguing when the released footage last night proved she wasn't panicking she was laughing, her and her gf seemed to think it was all great fun.

She obstructed armed law enforcement officers then acted in a way perceived to be a threat. The footage is clear.

Footage is clear she was no threat. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:43

'tragically demonstrating that Trump swamping cities and states run by people he has a vendetta against with ICE agents'

Trump is 'swamping cities'? Illegal migrants are a huge problem in the US. Do you think it's ok to break the law? What next ignore common criminals too because Trump has a 'vendetta' against the useless mayor and governor? ICE have a job to do, I woud not be attempting to obstruct them.

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:44

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:39

Footage is clear she was no threat. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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You mustve missed the bit where she hit him whilst her gf was shouting 'drive!'?

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:47

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:43

'tragically demonstrating that Trump swamping cities and states run by people he has a vendetta against with ICE agents'

Trump is 'swamping cities'? Illegal migrants are a huge problem in the US. Do you think it's ok to break the law? What next ignore common criminals too because Trump has a 'vendetta' against the useless mayor and governor? ICE have a job to do, I woud not be attempting to obstruct them.

https://news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917 news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917]]]]

Seems very much like one of Trump’s vendettas to me.

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 07:54

RedTagAlan · 10/01/2026 06:21

So erm, if police are protected by bodycams, why was this immigration officer not wearing one ?

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They absolutely should to protect themselves

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:55

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:47

https://news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917 news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917]]]]

Seems very much like one of Trump’s vendettas to me.

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'Local police also do not question residents' immigration status or enforce immigration law'

Well this bit from the link would seem more relevant than your 'vendetta' allegations .

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 07:56

RedTagAlan · 10/01/2026 06:42

Another reply to this from me, re police shooting and killing a 13 year old girl.

Quote : " Many such cases"

Indeed There are " Many such cases" of Police shooting dead 13 year old girls. So many in fact that I need to ask what case are you specifically talking about, where Police shot a 13 year old girl dead ?

I can narrow it down a little of course. It was in the USA.

13 year old girls being shot dead by Police are very very very rare outside of the USA. Rare to the point of never in most countries.

Don't you think the issue of Police shooting people dead is something that should be looked at ? In the USA anyway. It seems to be an oddly US specific occurrence.

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It happened in Columbus Ohio. People were literally going to riot until that footage was released. But then they saw this 13-year-old girl with a knife in her hand lunging towards another girl. Very likely saved the other girl’s life

RingoJuice · 10/01/2026 07:57

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 07:47

https://news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917 news.sky.com/story/why-ice-agents-are-in-minneapolis-13491917]]]]

Seems very much like one of Trump’s vendettas to me.

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They are In Minneapolis because the Somalis there are stealing billions of taxpayer money. Not hard to understand

Walkaround · 10/01/2026 08:02

Gloriia · 10/01/2026 07:44

You mustve missed the bit where she hit him whilst her gf was shouting 'drive!'?

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Oh, silly me - of course “drive!” means the same thing as “Run him over! Kill the bastard! Ram into him!” It’s not remotely ever used to suggest it might be time to leave.

None of the video evidence shows her driving at him, it all proves she was turning the vehicle away from him, he was not actually run over or hurt, and he shot her three times.