Ice agent shoots woman in the face (pt 2)

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Renee Good. Proof the you can shoot someone and get away with it in Trump’s America.

Also it is against police protocol to shoot a driver of a moving car as a dead driver won’t use brakes, the car will go out of control, and a lethal accident could be caused.
fortune.com/2026/01/09/police-experts-minnesota-ice-shooting-dangerous-absurd-criticism/

Exactly this. It's crystal clear from the video that the ICE agent was in no danger and he shot Renee in the face as she'd already driven past him. Anyone trying to argue that it was justified is excusing murder. That's it, really.

At least one of her children is now an orphan. Just devastating.

Indeed, Good's SUV then crashed into a parked white car, didn't it - which luckily had no one in it.

I love what the city mayor said.

He told ICE to get the fuck out of his city.

He was also mayor when george floyd was killed in the same city

Even if they did have that right- devils advocate here.

You don’t just get to shoot someone, say oh they were going to run me over, and walk away.

there is still an investigation. Someone is dead and law enforcement have to show that it was a justified self defence, and not homicide.

in the uk that officer would be sat in a post incident room. As would all his involved collegues. Isolated so no opportunity to get “stories straight”. Interviewed, evidence obtained. not allowed home or to receive any support until the independent investigation were finished with them.

CSI would be on scene collecting evidence.

otherwise we’d have a situation where anyone could shoot someone and say they were in fear, no consequence.

not “at home with his family”

the absolute casualness of the officer on tape walking away from the crashed car saying “we’re going to need 911”. So cold.

What stands out, in such a way I find words to describe, is the normalcy of the scene.

Iced roads and some SUV's navigating each other.

I heard the news before I watched any of the video footage. This was no high octane situation where a shootout unfolded. This was murder.

I stopped reading several pages in because I cannot bear to imagine actual people see this as something other than murder, let alone justify it.

A man, under zero threat, shot a woman in the face, at close range.

I don't know anymore. I don't know what to think or fear anymore. I just know my eyes don't lie. A 6 year old boy is now motherless and nobody is accountable for that - beyond cunts excusing the monster who fired his gun, because he fucking could. He was that emboldened, he shot a woman in the face.

You won't find many people in countries with more robust gun control than the US agreeing with that. Our first thought is never to shoot someone. It is also not how police are trained.

Self defense must always be reasonable. Whilst an exceptionally good defense lawyer, paired with a bad prosectuor/poorly constructed case may be able to convince a jury that the first shot was in self defence, the same could not be said for the second and third shots to her face.

Oh please. They aren't 'murderous views' to see how the situation escalated with the tragic outcome. Don't obstruct armed law enforcement officers in the US and act in a way percieved to be a threat.

Some of you are blinded by your hatred of Trump you're just using this as an opportunity to spout bile about him generally.

I thought Vance's press conference was clear and well done. He doesn't suffer fools in the media does he.

It's ironic that everyone is kissing Trump's arse to try and get him on board with helping in the Ukraine/Gaza situations when it's also crystal clear that he couldn't give a shit, thinks it's fine for the world to be divided up between the US, China and Russia, and isn't going to stop at just annexing Venezuala and Greenland. He's an imperialist sociopath now using militias to run the USA. Any chances of him just going quietly at the next election - without at the very least putting a successor in place to continue his 'legacy' - are zero.

But how was she obstructing them? The road is clear for cars to go around as shown in the videos, and she waves them to go around her first before pulling out herself

They are sent mostly to Dem states because Republican states have sympathetic governors that let the national guards into their (blue) cities more easily. So, ICE fills the void for the administration iyswim.

It’s also against protocol to stand in front of a vehicle as it creates the situation where the cop can say they were justified.

it’s laid out;

From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:
"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.

Lol. 'Blind hatred' of an imperialistic sociopath using armed militias to intimidate - and murder - his own citizens is pretty justified tbh.

I ve seen the various videos a few times, each time it chills me to think "i'm watching a woman being murdered..... her death supported by her President.

Its awful, state sponsored killing.

I expect if this was MN Russia, we'd have the same posters saying "Well, if he wasn't a journalist, he wouldn't have been thrown out of a window... sympathies for the KGB agent who threw him out..."

Google the story, i can't be bothered to post it.

For starters, Vance used the word ' shot back' when he described the actions of the ICE agent. 'Back'?? No one shot at him to begin with. That's why some of us say that was clearly not an honest speech; unless you've drunk the Kool Aid it's easy to see.

Have you read any of the multiple posts made showing that officer cannot legally just shoot into cars in the US? 'Can't definitively rule out that she has a gun' is not even remotely close to a justification

I was talking about the Jan 6 lady here. Not Good.

As for assuming she'd be in jail - we don't have any evidence that what she had done would merit prison

You are not allowed to obstruct federal agents like that.

the obvious thing that springs to mind is that one person died at the Capitol out of thousands of protestors, many/most of whom were being intentionally threatening and actually did harm police

Yes, the lady that got shot had trespassed. She made a bad decision. I felt bad for her but the cop didn’t know she was unarmed when she was climbing through a door or something.

They certainly didn't obey nicely when asked

Nope. And neither did she

Vance was spewing the bullshit that the idiots are lapping up.

They're all fucking disgusting. That woman in the hat, was obviously watching the footage through the thing, hearing the absolute shit she was coming out with

'Well, if he wasn't a journalist, he wouldn't have been thrown out of a window... sympathies for the KGB agent who threw him out..."

Err no, I wouldn't have sympathies for a 'kgb agent throwing a journalist out the window'. Such weird and absolute irrelevant comparisons.

Some of you are blinded by your hatred of Trump you're just using this as an opportunity to spout bile about him generally.

Trump, Vance and Neom should not be pre-empting any investigation by pre-declaring the outcome, saying that the shooter was 'lucky to be alive' (when he walked away just fine from the scene), calling the victim a 'domestic terrorist' etc. That's regardless of politics, it's about justice for the dead.

Margaret Atwood called it.

Some questions going through my mind:

1. If Renee Good was blocking the road how did the other car pass around her?
2. If this was a deliberate act why did she wave the ICE vehicle to go past her?
3. If ICE were unable to get past why didn’t they wait for her or instruct her to reverse?
4. Why did they rush at her, scream abuse and yank at her door and demand she get out?
5. Why did the ICE person who shot her walk around the opposite side of her car and then in front whilst the other ICE person was distracting her /intimidating her ?
6. Why did the ICE person who shot her not get further out of the way of a moving vehicle if he thought he was at risk of being hit? Surely incapacitating the driver does not remove the risk given how close he was if he felt it was aimed at him?
7. re the ICE shooter’s self-defence argument - would it not have taken longer to plant himself to shoot the weapon than focus on moving himself out of harm’s way?
8. Did the ICE shooter not have a responsibility to not allow a then out of control vehicle to potentially cause injury to other officers/bystanders in his decision making?
9. Why did they not initially block her car from moving to contain the situation?

My sense is that at best he was ill-equipped for his role, whether that be PTSD/military training or was he someone who knew he could be trigger happy and violent and would not be left to be accountable….

I used to be fairly neutral about Trump. I thought he has pros and cons and he is doing a tough job.

I didnt Hate Trump until I read the Epstein files. Now i hate him. He is a sick twisted fucker. He should be in jail

From the Epstein files:

Newly released Jeffrey Epstein documents from December 2025 contain an unverified claim by an unnamed woman that Donald Trump was present when her newborn baby was killed and the body disposed of in Lake Michigan in 1984.

So ironic that you talk of others having been "blinded".

Anyway, we get it. We get that you don't care about the rule of law. We get that you don't care about state-sanctioned murder of people with political views that don't align with your own. We get that you are not concerned about the gradual descent of the US into fascism.

There is no point in debating the matter with you, because you simply aren't willing to open your eyes and see what is going on in the US right now. Whatever. History will ultimately be the judge.

Oh God the mayor is on Sky. Let's see if he can string a sentence together instead of showing off swearing.

Gloriia ·

" thought Vance's press conference was clear and well done. He doesn't suffer fools in the media does he."

It's the fools who believe him.

I'm not a fool hun. He was strong and didn't take any shit.