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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

OP posts:
BillieWiper · 09/01/2026 19:39

Tell them they can stop moaning or utilize the front door.

Rosealea · 09/01/2026 19:52

I don't understand when your daughter became your lodger. I'd never dream about charging my children rent to live in their own family home.

Daydreambeliever87 · 09/01/2026 19:53

A is incredibly unreasonable.
Ignore her comments re noise
Dirty dishes go in to a crate and in her room, and if you need items that are dirty she washes them up there and then
wet washing goes in a black bag, don’t hang it up - they can
Response to everything “that’s what happens when you live in a family home”
She will either buck up, or move out (somehow I doubt the latter if she resents £30 pw)

mamajong · 09/01/2026 19:55

You have created a monster by allowing her to be so entitled and spoilt. You decide who has what room, you set the board and the rules. If she doesnt like them she is welcome to leave. If she doesnt pay board and start clearing up after herself then 1st off the bf is no longer welcome, thats a no brainer. My eldest pays £50 a week, cleans up after themselves and has set jobs to do. He can sleep in as long as he wants but we arent going to be tiptoeing about until midday and he wouldnt have the audacity to ask for that. Bonkers!

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Daydreambeliever87 · 09/01/2026 19:55

Rosealea · 09/01/2026 19:52

I don't understand when your daughter became your lodger. I'd never dream about charging my children rent to live in their own family home.

Why should a full time working adult contribute nothing? Why should OPs costs in fact go up given the boyfriend presumably also earns but is using utilities?
Teaching your child that their entire salary is disposable income is setting them up for a mighty fall.

herefortheclicks · 09/01/2026 19:56

She is trying to take over your house with her boyfriend and moan-make some strange rules. You know the route ahead. She is old enough to stop playing games of being a teenager. She is her second year into being fully grown woman

LemaxObsessive · 09/01/2026 20:00

JFC! What an entitled brat. At 19, I’d been living alone 3 years, had travelled across the USA on my own and been married and a homeowner for almost a year and she’s moaning about £30 and normal family noise? She should be grateful that you allow her to live at home let alone allow her boyfriend to stay. At 16, before I moved out that year, I had to pay £200pm rent to my parents and bear in mind that this was in 2000…. Sorry OP but I’d be so embarrassed if this was my DD’s behaviour.
My DD is 10 and as I’ve been typing this, she’s been cleaning the kitchen after making herself some popcorn. Every bit of her mess has been washed up, dried and put away. Now I’m FAR from a perfect parent but morals, respect for others & responsibility come first along with good manners.

Lucyccfc68 · 09/01/2026 20:08

Great update, well done.

We see so many threads on here where people’s adult/children are just taking the proverbial and they just come across as absolute wet-wipes because they just make excuses for their kids behaviour and won’t stand up for themselves.

Your update is exactly how you should deal with an entitled 19 year old and her boyfriend. Lots of people on MN should read your update and learn from it.

Dawnb19 · 09/01/2026 20:12

I've just read your update and thought 'good on you'. It might seem a bit strict but having flat shared at university and been backpacking and living with strangers, your definitely doing her a favour. You'd be surprised of how many people (yes adults in their 20s) I've 'lived' with that didn't know how to hoover, cook, clean or do their own laundry. They always struggle once they have left home. Also make sure her boyfriend takes he's own dirty laundry home with him. You don't need another child to clean up after.

grumpygrape · 09/01/2026 20:14

Rosealea · 09/01/2026 19:52

I don't understand when your daughter became your lodger. I'd never dream about charging my children rent to live in their own family home.

Good for you.

Would you never expect a full time working 'child' and her boyfriend to contribute?
How about if he moved in full time and they had a child or two ? Still not contributing?

Even if the OP/parent saves some or all of the child's contributions and hand them back later they need to understand the economics of life.

gamerchick · 09/01/2026 20:20

Man well done OP. I never thought for a minute you would do what needed to be done. Excellent job, bravo 👏

19lottie82 · 09/01/2026 20:22

Well done OP! As a pp suggested, get her to set up a standing order, so you don’t have to chase her every week / month.

nomas · 09/01/2026 20:27

Well done OP.

Fridayhappiness · 09/01/2026 20:36

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

I would take the £15pw with conditions.

  1. She buys her own food, toiletries and washing detergent.
  2. BF contributes £5pw for using the washing machine, shower, charging points etc…

Oh! and I’d sit them down together to let them know. BF won’t say no to his part. DD will know you’re serious and less chance of arguing when BF is there.

JJWT · 09/01/2026 20:39

Sorry if already been asked/answered but does she stay at his parents on the other days? If so £30 pw still seems cheap, especially for 2 of them
If not, then £30 is an absolute steal and she's being very bratty. You are entitled to row back on every aspect of your current offer in light of how its panning out for you. I think things will get worse if you don't put your foot down. Also, how this goes with the eldest might set a precedent for the younger ones. Fyi Uni students typically pay £125 pw without food on a lot less income than a full time wage. DD needs a dose of reality.

Tuesdayschild50 · 09/01/2026 20:40

She has an absolute cheek and needs a reality check.
It is 30 pounds a week or she leaves .
Make a list of the rules in the house regarding washing.as in do it themselves properly.
As for lie ins like it or lump it she has young brothers and sisters it's the way it is no one should have to tiptoe around just so she can lie in.
I thinks it's time she left .

Ohnobackagain · 09/01/2026 20:43

£30 a week? I was paying that to my parents years ago and I felt it wasn’t enough. Time for a bit of tough love - for a start, it should always be on a trial basis and you can end the agreement if it doesn’t work for you. Tell them they have a month to buck their ideas up @MumTeapot5

vipersnest1 · 09/01/2026 21:04

Good for you, OP.
I’ve only just come across your thread and only read your posts.
Initially I was going to suggest that you get the word ‘doormat’ tattooed on your forehead, but you have now seen sense in my view.
One of the things that is hard about being a parent is that as much as you want to look after and protect your DC, you also have to prepare them for living in the real world as independent adults (within the scope of their abilities - spoken as the mum of an adult DC with a severe sensory impairment).
Stand firm. You have a right to live in your home with as little stress as possible.

ChampagneLassie · 09/01/2026 21:11

My parents charged me £200/month rent in 2000. I didn’t really eat at home as I was working most of time. I did my own washing. I was able to get a flat share in a nice part of city for £250 and it worked out cheaper as I wasn’t paying commuting costs into work. £30/week is a joke; increase her rent and set more conditions.

Supergirl1958 · 09/01/2026 21:16

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

I paid a third of my wages once in full time work (this fluctuated for various reasons) but I suspect if she doesn’t like it then you know what to do. Stop providing food, she can buy her own, work out her share of the electricity bill, leave her washing in a bag or in a basket. And increase the noise! 😂😂

Supergirl1958 · 09/01/2026 21:23

Rosealea · 09/01/2026 19:52

I don't understand when your daughter became your lodger. I'd never dream about charging my children rent to live in their own family home.

Why? She’s got a live in boyfriend who eats their food, uses their electricity for free and a bed and heating. Does all of this grow on trees? £30 probably doesn’t even cover their share of food for a week! If you can afford not to charge then good for you! I honestly used to bemoan paying my parents rent, but now I have my own home, and pay bills I see that it was very much next to nothing what I paid! My husband and myself both earn 40k+ a year, enjoy a few luxuries but we are by no means well off and comfortable!!
£30 a week is nowt! OPs daughter needs perspective and fast!

Horses7 · 09/01/2026 21:25

Well done!
Keep strong and don’t relent!

Redcabbagefarts · 09/01/2026 21:44

I'd ping her over some house shares off Rightmove so she can see how much she'd need to pay to live elsewhere. Plus food on top. That should sort it.

Donnaslayer · 09/01/2026 21:46

I moved out of my mums to live in my boyfriends flat at 16 years old. When I was 24 years old, I had to temporarily move back home while I bought my ex out of the house we bought. Unfortunately he refused to move out and made house sharing not an option. My mum agreed on £50 a week board, I bought all my own food and as they only had dial up. I signed up for Virgin TV and Broadband to be installed which I paid monthy and they got to use for free. 6 months later... I started staying the odd night at my new boyfriends mums house. It wasnt ideal, we shared his single bed there, I didnt eat there or use their washing machine ect and their shower didnt work. One night when I wasnt there his mum had a fight with him as she didnt like him sleeping over at mine. In temper she threw my stuff in a bin bag and told him I wasnt welcome back. For context I hadnt done anything wrong, she was drunk and angry as she wanted him to stay home and babysit. Bagging up my belongings in a rage was extremely rude, childish and such an invasion of my privacy! The thought of her touching my underwear made me sick. She could have acted like an adult and just told us and I would have happily come and got my stuff myself the same day. I had a lovely kingsize bed, heating, working bath and shower at mine anyways. I only stayed at his "to be together" so no loss other than it changed my opinion on his family - not for the better. It back fired on them as they hadn't planned on him then moving out. My mum gained a new lodger and an additional £50 each week and a dishwasher into the bargain - he liked washing up! And when the remortgage papers were finally completed, my ex moved out and me and the boyfriend moved into my house and didn't look back. Now Im a mother myself, I would never do that to my child. I had a full time job - just a shop assistant. I was still paying half a mortgage each month and my mum took an extra £50 a week ontop, her and my sister ate my food and used my broadband and TV package. It was hard times as after paying the bills I literally had no money left each month. I did get through it but I wouldn't make my child suffer like I did - all to get away from a bad relationship. And it wasnt like she really needed the extra rent. I really do love the idea of saving the rent money up and giving it back when she moves out. I've read about others doing that and think its a brilliant idea. I actually plan to do similar for my child when older. I do wish my mum had helped me like that but alas no. But I wouldn't advise that you to tell your daughter that your saving it. As knowing she's getting a 'big cash pay out' you may make her more entitled and also complacent. Additionally you dont want to give the boyfriend ideas. I didnt have a lot but given my ex boyfriend spent any savings I had and left me with nothing but credit card debt! (Being young and a bit naive at the time hed had me making cash withdraws off my credit card for him, till it was maxed out) Im pretty wary of folk and protective these days (it was a hard life lesson). I'd say let the rent be a life lesson to your daughter atm. I love that you showed her shared lets and flats - her face must have been a picture lol. But id also say dont overprice her rent. I guess you wouldnt really want her to move out and in with his parents would you if they asked for less? Id suggest pricing the rent fairly and you can then surprise her later when she eventually moves out. Just make sure any money/gifts goes directly to her and not her boyfriend. Hope this helps! xxx

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