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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

OP posts:
Blusnose1875 · 09/01/2026 22:03

When I lived home with my parents (left 25 years ago) I was paying £350 a month, not once did I quibble as I was getting a good deal…

Blueuggboots · 09/01/2026 22:23

I left home in 1997 and was paying £250 a month to my parents before I left.

99bottlesofkombucha · 09/01/2026 22:45

Excellent parenting op. It’s good for her boyfriend too to be told he can’t take the piss, and absolutely ridiculous of him to do his washing (or did she always do it) and get mad at you for moving it out of the machine so you could do the family washing, the entitledness of both needed a big shake. She must know she isn’t welcome to take the piss like that at his parents or she’d have stormed off there.

Willyoujust · 09/01/2026 22:57

She’s taking the piss 😂 I moved out at 18 and supported myself 100%. It cost a lot more than £30 a week 😂😂😂😂

Grammarnut · 09/01/2026 23:08

momtoboys · 08/01/2026 18:03

Why do you even have to entertain the BF even once a week? I know this isn't a popular opinion but I would never have my 19 year old living with their bf/gf with younger children in the house. Preparing for the onslaught of comments.

No, I agree totally. Not suitable when there are younger DC about - what are they making of the arrangement?

Dietday · 09/01/2026 23:17

Well done OP.
Only on MN is there this business of boyfriends/girlfriends half moving in/living off families.
It certainly doesn't happen in my circle. One night a week would be considered generous.
She sounds like a complete madam.
Certainly not a good role model for younger children to be seeing.
As for the whole house tip yoeing around her?
Ridiculous.
In your place I would be moving her upstairs and reclaiming an adult space.
With that many children it is an excellent idea.
It gives you and your husband an adult space to enjoy which is important for your relationship.
Your daughter has been given far too much power in your house, always, always a mistake.

Any guff from her, tell you will help her pack.
Move her upstairs now, no further discussion.

2chocolateoranges · 09/01/2026 23:45

It’s good that you have set down some rules.

however £100 a WEEK and buying own food is excessive, she will end up living with you much longer as she can’t afford to save to move out.

also making a rule for an adult that they need to be up by 10am at the weekend is ridiculous.

we have adult children living with us. We take a token amount off of the one working(other in final year at uni) and we do this to enable them to save up for their own deposit to help them move out quicker. At present they are in a graduate job but have the aim of having their own place within this year.

SpidersAreShitheads · 09/01/2026 23:55

2chocolateoranges · 09/01/2026 23:45

It’s good that you have set down some rules.

however £100 a WEEK and buying own food is excessive, she will end up living with you much longer as she can’t afford to save to move out.

also making a rule for an adult that they need to be up by 10am at the weekend is ridiculous.

we have adult children living with us. We take a token amount off of the one working(other in final year at uni) and we do this to enable them to save up for their own deposit to help them move out quicker. At present they are in a graduate job but have the aim of having their own place within this year.

I was coming here to say exactly this.

On one hand you want her to behave like the adult she is, including contributing to the household financially and acting responsibly when it comes to shared spaces and chores. And then on the other, you’re treating her like a child, insisting she’s up by a certain time.

Parenting a young adult is very different and you need to change how you approach situations.

Absolutely I wouldn’t be keeping quiet - if it disturbs her lie-in that’s just tough. But she’s working full-time so may want to enjoy an evening out with a few drinks at the weekend. I think most of us have had days in our younger years lying in bed til lunchtime after a few too many drinks the night before! And I say this as someone who barely drinks now.

I think you need to strike the right balance between ensuring she pulls her weight and also letting her mature, and I don’t think your update really gets it quite right. It all feels a bit draconian to me.

CypressGrove · 10/01/2026 00:02

Yeah I also don't understand the 10 am rule. Why do you need her to get up at 10am? Share houses don't have rules for wake up times for adults.

Celticgold · 10/01/2026 00:24

That is very reasonable. She is taking advantage of your good will. I’d be limiting when the boyfriend can stay over change bedrooms if it makes it easier for you & tell her the actual going rate for a room board bills etc. I have a daughter who lives at home I take £30 a week provide food & most other thing’s but she is saving hard for a deposit on a house & will be moving in the summer. Sounds like you trying to be fair has turned her in to an entitled brat. My daughter works helps in the house & buys me the odd treat flowers takeaway to show her appreciation. I don’t expect it as I know how hard it is to buy your first property. I’d have a think as to what works best for you as a family.

StrawBeretMoose · 10/01/2026 00:53

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:17

So just to update. We sat her down last night and told her that from now on the boyfriend stays one night a week if she pays her keep, if she doesn’t then no stay overs. I’ve also added that she will be paying £100 a week and does her own food shop and that if she doesn’t like the noise tough luck as I refuse to silence the other children from having fun. I’ve told her she will be getting up at 10am latest on the weekend while she is here and if not there will be consequences. She pulled her face and started having a moan and I pulled up a list of shared houses, one bedroom flats etc and she soon changed her tune. I also told her that I’m pretty sure her boyfriends mum wouldn’t have them there for free.
She’s not happy that today I’ve bagged all her boyfriend’s stuff up and that it’s in bags waiting for him to pick up to take home. She thinks I’m being really unfair not letting him stay and told her that when he stays on that one night he buys his own food and that he does his own washing at his home and I expect £5 towards to gas/electric and broadband if he stays over. I’m expecting a strop again later as he stayed last night so that’s his one night a week used.

Most of that makes sense but why does DD have to be out of bed by 10am, that's just daft and unenforceable.

I think your problem is in your very first post when you say you are a family of 7 (if I read it right you're including her boyfriend).
They've been together a long time but they are still teenagers, he's not a family member and I wouldn't want him to act like he is at this stage in their lives.

CoolGreenPoet · 10/01/2026 01:34

Earplugs.

BrokenWingsCantFly · 10/01/2026 02:02

I can't believe she thought £30 for the both of them was unfair.

Read your updates, good on you OP for reclaiming your home and setting her straight

ToughTimes88 · 10/01/2026 02:18

I haven’t read all the comments and I understand your frustration but I’ll go against the grain and say you’re being ridiculous.

she’s an ‘adult’ as people point out but the brain doesn’t fully grow up until later. Teens need more sleep, that’s a fact.

showing her places to rent so she can go it on her own will only push her away. You need to set clear boundaries (kindly) and figure a way forward together. Yes it may be your house but she’s a young adult. Essentially can do what she wants. She may make mistakes but that’s your job as a parent to guide her.

Tanefan · 10/01/2026 04:34

I also don’t understand the 10am thing.

ShetlandishMum · 10/01/2026 04:37

Time for her to move on. It would be best for both if you.

loislovesstewie · 10/01/2026 06:15

ToughTimes88 · 10/01/2026 02:18

I haven’t read all the comments and I understand your frustration but I’ll go against the grain and say you’re being ridiculous.

she’s an ‘adult’ as people point out but the brain doesn’t fully grow up until later. Teens need more sleep, that’s a fact.

showing her places to rent so she can go it on her own will only push her away. You need to set clear boundaries (kindly) and figure a way forward together. Yes it may be your house but she’s a young adult. Essentially can do what she wants. She may make mistakes but that’s your job as a parent to guide her.

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You can't have it both ways. If she's an adult she behaves like an adult. She's 19, in work, presumably treated as an adult there. If she wants to stay in bed half the day and complain about noise, she can find another place to stay where she can do that. Presumably she gets up for work so getting up at 10 is having a lie in. If she's a child then she gets told what to do. I'm so fed up with the idea that young adults are still children and should be treated as such. If they want to play that game, then their adult rights should go.

SexyFrenchDepression · 10/01/2026 06:23

StrawBeretMoose · 10/01/2026 00:53

Most of that makes sense but why does DD have to be out of bed by 10am, that's just daft and unenforceable.

I think your problem is in your very first post when you say you are a family of 7 (if I read it right you're including her boyfriend).
They've been together a long time but they are still teenagers, he's not a family member and I wouldn't want him to act like he is at this stage in their lives.

I agree. The rest is totally reasonable but you shouldn't be dictating what time she has to get up. If it's noisy then tough shit on her really but shes working all week let her sleep till she wants.

HomeTheatreSystem · 10/01/2026 06:36

Love the update! More than fair and she's had a reality check in a safe environment. Only thing I'd say is that once the dust settles you may find she decides to have long hot showers/baths as in her mind "she's paying the bills" and can use what she likes. Just warn her that (assuming you have a smart meter) you can see any spikes instantly. She keeps her usage much the same as before or you'll be helping her move out. I think whilst most HMOs include utility bills, they also have a Fair Usage policy.

WhatWouldTheDoctorDo · 10/01/2026 07:35

Good for you OP. The only thing I would question is the 10am thing - yes, she couldn’t be allowed to complain about noise waking her up, and she should definitely contribute to chores, but I don’t think setting a time for her to get up is fair or necessary.

Supergirl1958 · 10/01/2026 09:05

Donnaslayer · 09/01/2026 21:46

I moved out of my mums to live in my boyfriends flat at 16 years old. When I was 24 years old, I had to temporarily move back home while I bought my ex out of the house we bought. Unfortunately he refused to move out and made house sharing not an option. My mum agreed on £50 a week board, I bought all my own food and as they only had dial up. I signed up for Virgin TV and Broadband to be installed which I paid monthy and they got to use for free. 6 months later... I started staying the odd night at my new boyfriends mums house. It wasnt ideal, we shared his single bed there, I didnt eat there or use their washing machine ect and their shower didnt work. One night when I wasnt there his mum had a fight with him as she didnt like him sleeping over at mine. In temper she threw my stuff in a bin bag and told him I wasnt welcome back. For context I hadnt done anything wrong, she was drunk and angry as she wanted him to stay home and babysit. Bagging up my belongings in a rage was extremely rude, childish and such an invasion of my privacy! The thought of her touching my underwear made me sick. She could have acted like an adult and just told us and I would have happily come and got my stuff myself the same day. I had a lovely kingsize bed, heating, working bath and shower at mine anyways. I only stayed at his "to be together" so no loss other than it changed my opinion on his family - not for the better. It back fired on them as they hadn't planned on him then moving out. My mum gained a new lodger and an additional £50 each week and a dishwasher into the bargain - he liked washing up! And when the remortgage papers were finally completed, my ex moved out and me and the boyfriend moved into my house and didn't look back. Now Im a mother myself, I would never do that to my child. I had a full time job - just a shop assistant. I was still paying half a mortgage each month and my mum took an extra £50 a week ontop, her and my sister ate my food and used my broadband and TV package. It was hard times as after paying the bills I literally had no money left each month. I did get through it but I wouldn't make my child suffer like I did - all to get away from a bad relationship. And it wasnt like she really needed the extra rent. I really do love the idea of saving the rent money up and giving it back when she moves out. I've read about others doing that and think its a brilliant idea. I actually plan to do similar for my child when older. I do wish my mum had helped me like that but alas no. But I wouldn't advise that you to tell your daughter that your saving it. As knowing she's getting a 'big cash pay out' you may make her more entitled and also complacent. Additionally you dont want to give the boyfriend ideas. I didnt have a lot but given my ex boyfriend spent any savings I had and left me with nothing but credit card debt! (Being young and a bit naive at the time hed had me making cash withdraws off my credit card for him, till it was maxed out) Im pretty wary of folk and protective these days (it was a hard life lesson). I'd say let the rent be a life lesson to your daughter atm. I love that you showed her shared lets and flats - her face must have been a picture lol. But id also say dont overprice her rent. I guess you wouldnt really want her to move out and in with his parents would you if they asked for less? Id suggest pricing the rent fairly and you can then surprise her later when she eventually moves out. Just make sure any money/gifts goes directly to her and not her boyfriend. Hope this helps! xxx

It wasn’t your mums fault that you were also paying another mortgage though and your situation isn’t the same.
Whilst I’m sympathetic, your contribution didn’t include money towards council tax, gas and electricity for example. Yes you bought your own food, and paid for Virgin but you used your mum’s heating and gas and electricity plus had a roof over your head. It works both ways. Imagine having to pay half a mortgage with your ex and paying rent and bills somewhere else?
I think the idea of saving up a contribution is great, for me, I’d be saving up a portion of the contribution (if this ever happens) and using the rest to help with the bills. It’s not about ‘taking money’ off your children because you can. It’s about teaching your children the responsibility of money before they go off and live on their own and struggle because they can’t budget! I’ve lived in my own house for ten years and never had to borrow money off my parents.

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TheAngryPuxie · 10/01/2026 12:26

My daughter is also 19. She has just started seeing someone so he doesn't stay over and he's only 17. She's young for her age. She is taking a gap year. She doesn't pay for her keep as she hasn't been able to find a job but she volunteers in a charity shop once a week. She is very considerate and well-behaved. She mops the floors for me every week and cooks dinner for the family twice a week. If I ask her to do something around the house while I'm at work she does it. We give her an allowance so she can buy her own clothes, go out, etc. It seems like she is on to a good thing but she had a breakdown at college in her last year there and she's recovering. Your daughter is living as an adult in your house and should pay her keep and help out around the house. She is on to a good thing and should be grateful.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 10/01/2026 12:30

MumTeapot5 · 09/01/2026 16:17

So just to update. We sat her down last night and told her that from now on the boyfriend stays one night a week if she pays her keep, if she doesn’t then no stay overs. I’ve also added that she will be paying £100 a week and does her own food shop and that if she doesn’t like the noise tough luck as I refuse to silence the other children from having fun. I’ve told her she will be getting up at 10am latest on the weekend while she is here and if not there will be consequences. She pulled her face and started having a moan and I pulled up a list of shared houses, one bedroom flats etc and she soon changed her tune. I also told her that I’m pretty sure her boyfriends mum wouldn’t have them there for free.
She’s not happy that today I’ve bagged all her boyfriend’s stuff up and that it’s in bags waiting for him to pick up to take home. She thinks I’m being really unfair not letting him stay and told her that when he stays on that one night he buys his own food and that he does his own washing at his home and I expect £5 towards to gas/electric and broadband if he stays over. I’m expecting a strop again later as he stayed last night so that’s his one night a week used.

The only part of this that is unreasonable is saying that she has to get up by 10am on the weekends. I think that's unreasonable as it doesn't impact you if she sleeps in /lies in her bedroom . Of course she will have to put up with the household noise during that time, but if she gets up and dressed at 10am, and then stays in her bedroom (as many teenagers would), how is that different from lying in bed?

outerspacepotato · 10/01/2026 12:42

I started staying the odd night at my new boyfriends mums house. It wasnt ideal, we shared his single bed there, I didnt eat there or use their washing machine ect and their shower didnt work. One night when I wasnt there his mum had a fight with him as she didnt like him sleeping over at mine. In temper she threw my stuff in a bin bag and told him I wasnt welcome back. For context I hadnt done anything wrong, she was drunk and angry as she wanted him to stay home and babysit. Bagging up my belongings in a rage was extremely rude, childish and such an invasion of my privacy!

@Donnaslayer ,You had your belongings in her house and the homeowner didn't want your stuff there. Your stuff didn't belong there in the first place. You had no right of privacy in her home.

@MumTeapot5 , the only thing I would reassess after time would be the wakeup time of 10. If she's working late or shift work, that might not work. But, there will be no quiet hours for your other kids so she can sleep. You did some good parenting there and I hope things turn around.

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