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Am I and DH being unfair

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MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

OP posts:
CraftyMintHedgehog · 08/01/2026 17:32

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

I would sit down and show her the cost of bills. Gas, elec, council tax, food etc...

e.g.
Gas £1000
Elec £1000
CT £3400
Water £600
Food £10,000
TV/Internet/Netflix £150

Yearly Total = £16,150
Monthly = £1345.

7 people in the family, so each person's share is £192.

So therefore her and her boyfriend need to pay £200 a month each.

Bonbon21 · 08/01/2026 17:33

You are not treating like the adult she believes herself to be.. although she is not behaving like that adult either!

ONE FIFTH of her take-home pay as rent, she does chores, her own laundry and any cleaning up after her ( and her boyfriends) cooking efforts. She is responsible for cleaning her own room etc. Any laundry she leaves in the washer/dryer gets dumped in a basket and put in her room. Her boyfriend stays over one night per week only, and takes his laundry home with him.

If any of the above is unacceptable she can live elsewhere and experience the real world as opposed to the one she believes she is entitled to.
Time for tough love, you are not doing her any favours letting her behave like this at her age.

saraclara · 08/01/2026 17:36

She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.

Seriously, how dare she speak to you like that? Is she in the habit of doing so? I can't begin to imagine either of my kids talking to me like that.

She dictated which room she had, she's dictating what you do with the washing, she's dictating what she pays... It's almost unbelievable. You and your DH need to grow some balls, frankly @MumTeapot5

Grammarnut · 08/01/2026 17:38

My DSS charged his DS and DD £30 a week. I would think this is the standard rate. If your DD only pays £15 then she does her own shopping - and make it so, with locks on cupboards and fridge if necessary. Explain that this is because she is using electricity etc, that council tax is paid, and that she is using the facilities of the house, so if she only pays £15 a week then she must buy her own food (which will cost her more than £15, as she will discover).
You are teaching responsibility here, and not only is that fair, it is necessary.
Stop the boyfriend staying.

Differentforgirls · 08/01/2026 17:41

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You’re a charmer.

Ponderingwindow · 08/01/2026 17:44

If she behaved like this with roommates she would not be very popular.

You are not doing her any favors by being so lax.

She should be paying more than a token rent. Right now she feels flush with cash because she has barely any responsibilities. She has no sense of what real life is like. You can put the excess isn’t savings.

She needs to be considerate of the people she lives with. She is asking for consideration but not giving it in return. You need house rules and they should apply to everyone.

OneShyQuail · 08/01/2026 17:48

FishPie2 · 08/01/2026 17:22

OP said on the first page that her daughter works and sometimes does overtime and this has been mentioned in many posts.

Cheers for the update, missed that somewhere on first page, cant pretend ive read past page 3 😂

Point still stands, if shes working she can contribute more

OneShyQuail · 08/01/2026 17:50

@MumTeapot5 where has this entitled attitude come from? Has she always been like this?

Dictating what shes paying now?
For a start put a different password on the WiFi and dont tell her and her bf. That should impact them somewhat.

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 17:51

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NormasArse · 08/01/2026 17:55

Buy her some earplugs, and charge her extra for them.

And tell underpant man to sling his hook.

momtoboys · 08/01/2026 17:57

Stories like this infuriate me. I would now charge her $45/wk and make as much noise as I want, whenever I want. You need to tell her (and the knob boyfriend) that it is time to move out.

Differentforgirls · 08/01/2026 17:58

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Reported. All of your posts.

Flailingaroundatlife · 08/01/2026 17:58

DollydaydreamTheThird · 08/01/2026 12:33

She sounds very entitled OP. How can she complain about the room situation when she wanted that room? Based on other posts I've read on MN where the OP says they won't have boyf/gfr over to stay EVER I think you have been more than generous. In terms of the keep, I paid that much money to my parents 20 years ago!!!! She is going to have a short, sharp shock when she realises how much private rent is and that doesn't cover her bills or food. I would actually suggest she paid you more unless she is actually saving some of that money for a deposit for rental/ house purchase. It doesn't sound like it from what you have said though.
The boyf sounds like an absolute CF as well. Take your washing home then sunshine!

Me too! I used to pay a THIRD of my wages - whatever I earned (even on 5 quid an hour).

I think you need a landlord/ tenant type chat and lay down the terms. I think a contract might be in order? Surely there's an editable one online somewhere?

Good luck with this. Totally not being unfair!!i

Flailingaroundatlife · 08/01/2026 17:59

Me too! I used to pay a THIRD of my wages - whatever I earned (even on 5 quid an hour).

I think you need a landlord/ tenant type chat and lay down the terms. I think a contract might be in order? Surely there's an editable one online somewhere?

Good luck with this. Totally not being unfair!!i

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 18:00

Differentforgirls · 08/01/2026 17:58

Reported. All of your posts.

Same babe. Same.
You targetted me.

momtoboys · 08/01/2026 18:03

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 13:08

I’m going to speak to DH when we are home tonight and suggest we up her rent and tell her if she doesn’t like it she can go to her boyfriends parents house and stay there or she moves out. We will put this to her while her boyfriend isn’t around and tell her that unless he starts paying some keep towards he will be staying at home and only welcome once a week as opposed to the 5 days he stays here including the weekend. I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft x

Why do you even have to entertain the BF even once a week? I know this isn't a popular opinion but I would never have my 19 year old living with their bf/gf with younger children in the house. Preparing for the onslaught of comments.

Justgorgeous · 08/01/2026 18:06

Sorry but you are being way too nice. Boyfriend wouldn’t be staying with the way she’s behaving. He can do all his washing at his own house. If she doesn’t like the current arrangements then they can rent a room somewhere. £15 is a bloody insult.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 08/01/2026 18:07

DollydaydreamTheThird · 08/01/2026 12:33

She sounds very entitled OP. How can she complain about the room situation when she wanted that room? Based on other posts I've read on MN where the OP says they won't have boyf/gfr over to stay EVER I think you have been more than generous. In terms of the keep, I paid that much money to my parents 20 years ago!!!! She is going to have a short, sharp shock when she realises how much private rent is and that doesn't cover her bills or food. I would actually suggest she paid you more unless she is actually saving some of that money for a deposit for rental/ house purchase. It doesn't sound like it from what you have said though.
The boyf sounds like an absolute CF as well. Take your washing home then sunshine!

When i was working and living at home 30 years ago, I paid 50£ a week!!

30£ is laughably low... 15£,an insult!.... How is she ever going to learn that living costs LOADS more than this....

I'd be tempted to up her room and board considerably £100 weekly is still a bargain ...tell her to reflect more honestly what she costs you... (if you choose to give some back in the future that is up to you, obvs!)...

She sounds massively entitled. I'd also stop the boyfriend staying over more than once /twice weekly... He can do his washing elsewhere

Waterbaby41 · 08/01/2026 18:10

The unfairness here is your DD - not paying any where near enough, whinging all the time (about the room she chose), free loader (and whinging) boyfriend outstaying his welcome) and leaving a mess behind her.
Stop allowing one person to rule the roost. This is your home - time to reclaim it!

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/01/2026 18:49

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 08/01/2026 18:07

When i was working and living at home 30 years ago, I paid 50£ a week!!

30£ is laughably low... 15£,an insult!.... How is she ever going to learn that living costs LOADS more than this....

I'd be tempted to up her room and board considerably £100 weekly is still a bargain ...tell her to reflect more honestly what she costs you... (if you choose to give some back in the future that is up to you, obvs!)...

She sounds massively entitled. I'd also stop the boyfriend staying over more than once /twice weekly... He can do his washing elsewhere

45 years ago, I paid £40/week, which was 25% of my take-home pay.

@MumTeapot5, £30/week is so low that it is probably feeding into her sense of entitlement. It nowhere near covers her bed and board, does it? She'd spend more than that on a night out, so she doesn't see it as a serious amount. And not seeing it as a serious amount, she doesn't see paying it as serious either.

"I thought I was being unfair but I see that maybe we are being too soft"
Way, way too soft.

The current set-up, between

  1. the laughable amount of dig money,
  2. her boyfriend staying over 5 nights/week,
  3. their cooking for themselves but leaving the dishes to you,
  4. the using the washing machine without actually taking responsibility for their laundry

They are playing house, like two toddlers. All the rights but none of the responsibilities. This is not training her for independent adulthood, is it? Quite the opposite I would say. It's training her to expect to be subsidised / waited upon.

Change it all, she's proven she's not ready for adulthood.

  1. Up her dig money to 25% of take-home pay. Save it for her if you want, but make sure it comes out of her account and into yours. She needs to value living with you. People do not value what they do not pay for.
  2. Do NOT take dig money off her boyfriend! You'd essentially give him the right to stay whenever he wants, maybe 7 days/week! Don't make that rod for your back.
  3. Limit how much he can stay at yours, one night/week, two maximum. Suggest they stay at his parents' if they want to be together more often. This not only gets you some space from them, it gives her the opportunity to compare and contrast the two households and therefore to appreciate your home more.
  4. His laundry is not the responsibility of your household. He takes it home with him, much easier now he'll only be staying once per week!

Good luck in recalibrating her expectations / appreciation / impending adulthood!

Differentforgirls · 08/01/2026 19:07

Doteycat · 08/01/2026 18:00

Same babe. Same.
You targetted me.

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BestZebbie · 08/01/2026 20:04

When is her 20th birthday? If it is in March or before, warn her that the rules are different age 20+

Netcurtainnelly · 08/01/2026 20:07

MumTeapot5 · 08/01/2026 12:24

New here.
As the title says, are we being unfair with eldest daughter, hear me out.
Family of 7, 2 adults, 3 children 4-14 and daughter 19 and her long term boyfriend of 5 years.
We moved into a new house mid 2025 as our old house was too small to fit our family in comfortably and we were looking actively anyway and our ideal house came on the market so we went ahead. My eldest daughter was given an upstairs bedroom of her own as each child was, but said she would rather have the downstairs bedroom (was previously a 2nd living room) for whatever reason that me and DH were going to have so all the kids were upstairs but we agreed and all went ahead and all seemed fine as she’s at an age were she could be trusted. That was my 1st mistake I guess, but I’ll come back to that.
My 2nd mistake was allowing her boyfriend to stay over a few nights a week now we had a bigger house and they have been together since they were 14 and in high school together on the agreement that she made sure any mess they made or any washing of his she was to do with her own and they tidy up after themselves.
So back to my first mistake, as I said she has the downstairs bedroom. This room has its own door off the hallway and one of the walls separate the dining room at the back of house. The first few weeks nothing was ever said but the past few weeks she keeps moaning that we are waking her up on a weekend. Now I’d understand if it was really early but she said we never get a lie in past lunch time ( I kid you not ) 🫠 her reasons to this are a list. So she or her boyfriend hears the youngest playing downstairs or singing along to songs that she likes, be that in the living room or dining room when I’m in the kitchen. She hears the noise in the kitchen from cooking/turning on the washer/drier/unloading dishwasher or whatnot. She hears people walking past her room in the hallway, she hears the dog bark etc. Now by no mean are we the quietest family ever but our other children are not elephants that stomp around or are overly loud. Myself and DH have spoken to her about how she can’t expect us all to whisper and tip toe around until gone lunchtime on a weekend especially if we are going out somewhere and getting sorted as we work full time and the dog is a dog and occasionally barks 🤷🏼‍♀️ we have offered to change rooms so she could be upstairs but she said that would be worse as our teen son likes to watch TV or play on his Xbox in his room occasionally and our other teen daughter is always chatting to her friends if we are having a chilled weekend. We tend to hear them from around 10ish but like I said they are not loud or causing a disturbance.
2nd mistake was allowing the boyfriend to stay over. As I said it was agreed that if they tidy up after themselves and do their own washing and she pays keep then we wouldn’t have an issue. I’d say in the last 5 weeks so before Xmas I have been getting up to dishes being left from them cooking if they didn’t want the same meals as us, wet washing in the machine if she’s used it at night, which I will hang up or pop in the tumble drier so I can do our washing, then she moans that her boyfriend says that he feels weird that me or DH are touching his socks/underwear etc. Bear in mind I have a teen son and a husband whose pants we wash and get out to dry regular. I’ve told her if he feels weird then they either wait for their washing to be done and hang it out or move to the drier once the cycle is done or he bags it up and he can do it on the days he is at his home as it’s not like I stand there looking at his pants and socks and judging them 🙈 I just take them out and pop them in the drier. They are being sloppy and not tidying up in general and I am starting to loose my patience.
We told her in December while it was Xmas not to stress to much about paying keep as we knew she was buying presents etc and going out with friends for meals/drinks so thought we was being nice. She’s now turned around last night and said £30 a week isn’t fair of us to ask from her (she works full time and does overtime occasionally) and we told her that £30 is fair as she’s eating the food we buy, using electricity/gas/broadband/household supplies etc. She’s stormed off into her room last night and said we are unfair and she won’t be paying us £30 anymore she will pay £15.
Just looking for some advice really to see if we are being awful parents setting certain rules and charging her keep? Also how would you tell your child if they don’t pay the £30 then they will have to buy their own food etc. Obviously we can’t stop her using the shower etc but she seems to have become very entitled lately since we moved. I’m seriously considering telling her that her boyfriend is no longer welcome to stay overnight anymore.
Sorry it’s been very long winded but thought it would be best to put the facts down as they are x

Good grief. Chuck them out and see if they can find someone else for that money.
Lazy cow as well.

Do you need to ask OP.

NewGirlInTown · 08/01/2026 20:14

Don’t continue being a pushover OP!

£30 pw is incredibly cheap, especially given her boyfriend is allowed to stay over as well.
Tell them to try and find a room in a shared house for £30 pw including food!’She sounds awful and needs teaching a lesson.

Shinyandnew1 · 08/01/2026 20:31

She sounds horribly rude!

I'd say no more boyfriend sleeping over and she needs to be a far more considerate housemate-tidying up after herself.

If she doesn't want to live with your family, she needs to move out.

Why doesn't she sleep at her boyfriend's house for 5 nights a week instead?

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